J-10 Zhuhai air show video released, page 1

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[edit on 11/18/2008 by Darkpr0]

There are already plenty of Youtube links on it, including this one:



[edit on 19-11-2008 by CreeWolf]

This was all posted before:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and the OP even posted in that thread!

reply to post by Phage

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Here are the specs:

Max Speed: crap
Max Altitude: crap
Battlefield Endurance: crap
Avionics: atari 2600 flight computer, Colecovision Radar

*ok, I should get serious now. Basically, this thing was obsolete the second it made its maiden flight.

[edit on 19-11-2008 by CreeWolf]

reply to post by CreeWolf

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so your saying the Gripen, the Typhoon , the F-16 block whatever and the Rafale are all crap as well? since they are of a similar generation and ability.

reply to post by CreeWolf

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so other than a misinformed `opinion` you offer no information whatsoever as to why you think the Rafale (with AESA now) or the J-10 (which china bought the plans for the LAVI , itself based upon the F-16) are in your words `crap`

edit:

let me point a few details of the J-10 for you:

the engine is an AL-31FN (the domestic WS-10A isn`t ready yet) which prduces 27,000 lb thrust the chinese built will produce 29,000 lb thrust

compare to the F-16 block 50 which has the GE F110-GE-129 which also produces 29,000 lb thrust, the gripen which has 18k thrust and the typhoon which has a pair of EJ200 engines , each making 13k thrust (total about 26k)

the rafale has a pair of 17000 thrust engines (snecma-M88)

so not short on power

weight

the J-10 weighs in at 18 tons

same as the gripen (again 18 tons) but slightly more than the F-16 at 12 tons , and 1/2 the weight of the porker called the Typhoon - a larger 34 tons there, with the rafale very much similar to the typhoon at around 34 tons.

payload?

well the J-10 can carry around 9 tons very similar to the F-16 , gripen is less at 8 tons - the number i can find for the `big boys` are similar again - pictures of the typhoon show it wuth 1 fuel tank and 8 1,000 lb paveway

fuel tanks weigh 1 kilogramme per litre (+ the tank iteself)

wing loading:

J-10 64 lb/ft
F-16 84 lb/ft
Gripen 68 lb/ft
Typhoon 63 lb/ft
Rafale 83 lb/ft


so not really a highly loaded wing either.


radar? appears at this time to be a version of the Zhuk as used on there own flankers - although it is reported to be fielding a chinese radar the 1471 which is better than the Zhuk with 15/4 (track and scane targets) and A2G capability.

electro optical tracking system - home bilt and better than anything russia can sell them - china wants a radar small enough so it can move the ImIR system to the nose.

only typhoon has an IRST - none of the rest have them (yet)

so tell me again , why is the J-10 `crap`?

i would really compare this aircraft to the F-16 block 50 , both having features the other doesn`t - but very much a capable workhorse.

[edit on 19/11/08 by Harlequin]

ok, here is the download link, what I requested I have already done it by myself.
J-10 Demo. complete edition
hope you like it

[edit on 19-11-2008 by emile]

reply to post by waynos

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ta for picking the thrust one up - why i put the dry thrust i`ll never know

www.hitechweb.genezis.eu...


^^ the boeing entry to the LWF competition which lead to the F-16

reply to post by Harlequin

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I know how to look up an aircraft's capabilities. I understand thrust to weight ratio, wing loading, etc..... I spent 6 years in the US Air Force and one of my jobs was Threat Assessment--Combat Aircraft.

All I was offering was my OPINION. To me, the J-10 might be the better performer in some aspects when compared to its contemporaries, but I still think its ugly. And, its Chinese.

By the way, as for the F-16; the only thing that makes any of these aircraft you mentioned able to fly in the first place is FLY-BY-WIRE. Which was the first production fighter aircraft to introduce it? The U.S.A.'s F-16 Fighting Falcon.

So, tell me, exactly WHAT is so innovative about this J-10? Did they utilize anything different that wasn't already in the Gripen, F-16, or Rafale?

[edit on 19-11-2008 by CreeWolf]

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