Just wondering, why do so many of you seem to hate Jesus?, page 1

I don't hate Jesus. If anything, he is the embodiment of the original ideals of true Christianity.

And considering I'm agnostic and anti-religious, you know that means a lot for me to say that.

That being said, the author of the below thread is a prime example of my negative opinion on Christians, and Christianity in general.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Generalization? Maybe. But my argument is this:

Most Christians these days are of the zealous, bible-thumping, holier than thou variety. These people are delusional hypocrites. Yet they are the majority. The minority, those that follow Jesus' teachings, are intelligent, accepting, intellectual and perhaps even enlightened.

But because the majority is of the zealous, bible-thumping, holier than thou variety, they are naturally out-spoken. As a result, the true Christians get thrown into the pot with them, and people like me who don't rely on religion, view Christianity as a negative whole.

So the issue here is, people don't know how to differentiate between perverted modern Christianity, and the embodiment of true Christianity (Jesus).

[edit on 11/18/2008 by prototism]

reply to post by dominicus

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Good Morning. I don't hate Jesus. I don't like him either. Why?
I look at it like this. In God's temple. A man walks into the church or building and starts tipping over tables and damaging property-criminal.

He rally's people against God's state, his God's state, and attempts to upsurp his God's government and implant himself as the letter of his God's law in the eyes of his God's people, as well as attempting to persuade others of his God to behave criminally against his God--I consider Jesus to have been a criminal-against the God of the time, who used his free will to break the law, and recieved judicial punishment according to the severity of the transgression against the law.

I don't really study up on it. I'm not sure why my personal opinion of the Jesus is so important to his believers. In fact, if it wasn't so important to his believers, and I am not aiming this at you, op, you've raised a very interesting and valid question and asked for answers. So and back to in fact, if it wasn't so important to his believers, I *likely* wouldn't have this opinion. But since it is put in front of me to think about, so often, I do think about it, as the whole world is filled with christians wanting to know why other people do not bow down to a Jesus, thier Jesus, and my conclusion solidifys with each query as I am forced to revisit the old testiments statements assumably given by God and compare them to the 'new' version.

I hope this at least in part answered your origional question.
Jesus is what he means to you, you shouldn't have hurt feelings over what he is to others-this is your journey.

reply to post by dominicus

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Whereas if you haven't walk the Christ path sincerely and genuinely, then your're merely speculating, as an outsider, about a direct experience that you have no clue about.

This is something I see very often that makes no logical sense. By this logic, I would have to join the KKK in order to understand 'what's really going on." The same material that is available to a christian for study is available to everyone else, and if it leads them to a different conclusion than you, why do you care? I don't hate Jesus, I am apathetic towards him, as I am every other 'prophet' or religious figure out there.

And the other flaw in this logic, is that a christian will make the claim that ANYONE who is against the bible/Jesus never 'walked the path sincerely and genuinely.' I was a 'christian' for 18 years of my life, went to school to be a pastor, preached and taught Sunday school. I felt that it was my duty to 'spread the good news' to everyone, that it was my job to persuade them and bring them to this 'truth' I had found in christ.

I no longer believe in the bible. The story is too long to share, but my experience is just as valid as yours on the subject. And through my experience, I have come to the opposite conclusion as it seems you have.

reply to post by Essan

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Can't say I ever met the guy.

Yeah, he and his father is kind and very understanding about life, because I know...personal experince. I wouldn't be around here in life, if they weren't kind and loving of humans.

reply to post by dominicus

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Originally posted by dominicus
Just wondering, why do so many of you seem to hate Jesus?

I dont think its right to hate Jesus because allot of "so called" Christians give him a bad name.

But that is exactly why so many people seem to hate Christianity. Christ said to love one another, yet so many people who call themselves Christians seem to be filled with hate. They are the ones that get most of the attention so many people get the idea that all Christians are like that.

It’s the same with gays who attack Christians, Obama supporters who think he is the messiah, and blacks who commit crimes. People hear of the actions of these people and judge the entire group on the actions of a few.

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