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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 10:34 PM by LoftyElim

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Check out my domain it has information about the reincarnation of jesus, his father and his band. www.fixittom.biz...

I have crossed referenced bible, dead sea scrolls, and other writtings with rock n roll song lyrics that are written by many many famous bands who believe that the 2nd coming of jesus is via a womb.
Eric Clapton, Bob Seger, Kiss, Black Sabbath, Kansas, The Who, Led Zeppelin, are just to name a few. ALL these bands have written songs about a child who is to become KING of the World.
And we all know where children come from....
These bands are trying to get the Father of this child to reveal himself and his son.
The purpose is to prove that reincarnation DOES exist, and that MAN is GOD. And that is suppose to stop all the I D 10 Ts from killing in the name of God or wanting to die in the name of God. And a few other things.
If we are GODS why don't the preachers say so.... the bible does.

Prophecies tells of things to come.... or as I call them.... "The Script".

Revelations of Jesus12:5 And she brought forth a manchild.
"Who"... was to rule all nations with a rod of iron.
And her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Psalms82:6 I have said... YE Are...Gods!
And all of you are the Children of the Most High.

John3:7 Marvel not that I said unto Thee. (apostles) 'Ye' must be Born Again. (reincarnated)

Job 33:28-30 'He has redeemed my soul from going to the pit, And my life shall see the light.'
Behold,.. God does all these oftentimes with men, to bring back his soul from the pit,
That 'He' may be enlightened with the light of life.

1 Corinthianss11:33 Wherefore, my brethren, when 'ye' come together to eat, tarry for one another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home,
that ye come together not unto condemnation. And... the rest will I set in order... when I come.

Matthew24:44 So 'you'(apostles) too must be ready... because at an hour 'you' are not expecting 'Him'... the 'Son' of 'Man' will come. (born again)

Luke10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father,
and no man knoweth 'Who'...the Son is, but... the Father,
and 'Who' ...the Father is, but... the Son,
and 'He'... to Whom the Son will reveal 'Him'.

Revelations of Jesus5:14
The Faithful and True Witness. The Beginning of the 'Creation' of God.

Parables are like lyrics.... sometimes you have to read between the lines.

Check out my domain it should help you you Understand what your preachers don't.

A Question to you.... If Jimmy Swaggart, Jimmy Baker, or Jim Jones really believe in a invisible God do you really think the would have done the stunts they pulled.

reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 10:47 PM by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by LoftyElim
Check out my domain it should help you you Understand what your preachers don't.

A Question to you.... If Jimmy Swaggart, Jimmy Baker, or Jim Jones really believe in a invisible God do you really think the would have done the stunts they pulled.

That is one hectic looking website you got there. I will take a look at it, because the subject seems interesting.

As for jimmy S, Jimmy B and jim jones. I cant really answer that because im not sure what stuns they pulled.

Would you be willing to elaborate?

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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:50 PM by Niobis

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I typed a reply, but never mind now.

Godspeed.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:09 AM by Oscitate

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There's a lot of info there, but with all due respect, my eyes are bleeding.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:11 AM by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by ToolFanMael
reply to post by gimme_some_truth

my friend, it is as I understand it that we are here in this existance (before death) to experience LOVE in a number of ways. I don't believe there is a "right and wrong" in the spirit world as we know it here in this reality. Which is why some people misinterpret spirits and energies as being evil or unsympathetic.

interesting post!

That is a very good point you raise about right and wrong. It makes sense to me that there is no right or wrong in the spiritual world. Is it the same though for the physical world as well? Is right and wrong just another word for what is acceptable in our society?

Very intruiging my friend.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:15 AM by gordonwest

Ponderings/questions about Life after death

Just as the title of the thread says: Ponderings/questions about Life after death : Why would you want to ask Questions about 'Life After Death' when you are part of the living. People are 'awake' and living in this life, the 'timeline' that we are given to live in. Maybe just wait UNTIL you have died to experience-answer the title of the thread.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:23 AM by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by gordonwest

Ponderings/questions about Life after death

Just as the title of the thread says: Ponderings/questions about Life after death : Why would you want to ask Questions about 'Life After Death' when you are part of the living. People are 'awake' and living in this life, the 'timeline' that we are given to live in. Maybe just wait UNTIL you have died to experience-answer the title of the thread.

Why? that is an easy one my friend. The answer to why ask these questions is why not? In all fairness I guess we all have to wait untill we die to find out how things really work but hey, I guess that is why the thread is called ponderings/questions about life after death and not answers to how life after death works. That is all we can really do untill we die.

I find it so fun to sit and ponder over the workings of the universe. I may not be able to figure out all the answers untill I die but Im not going to let that stop me from trying.

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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:23 AM by gimme_some_truth

Double post.

Ignore

well no dont ignore. On second thought, since I have taken up the space I will just add another question.

I remember reading once about the ancient egyptians and how they used to do wierd techniqes to determine whether or not the dead party was going to paradise or not. I remember reading that they thought if the dead parites heart weighed less than a feather then they got to go to paradise because it meant they were free of sin. If their heart weighed more than a feather, well, im sure you can imagine that alot of people went to hell, or atleast their version of it, as a human heart weighs more than a feather.

So my question is, assuming there is both a heaven and hell do you think there is really a way to tell whether a dead person went to heaven or hell?

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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:40 AM by gimme_some_truth

Also I was looking at an old philosphy book I have. I was reading a book written by socrates, about the life of Plato. Socrates wrote all about plato. He told that Plato was essentialy his teacher. Althoug it is intersting that Plato never actually wrote anything. Some have argued that Plato was a made up character. During the time of Socrates it was a crime to challenge wht the "gods" said was law. So some believe that he made up the character Plato in order to tell his own beliefs with out risk of getting in trouble. all he had to do was say, dont blame me im just quoting Plato. Any how I am getting off track.

in apology, a part of the story of Plato's life written by socrates There is a quote that is very appropriate I feel for this thread. It was supposed to have been said by Plato after he was sentenced to death for impiety.

"Dying is one of two things. Either it is like having no awareness at all, or, as people say, it’s some kind of transfer of address for the soul from where we are into some other place. And if it is no awareness at all, if it is like a sleep slept out without any dreams, then death is wonderful."

Keeping in mind that quote is from a book that was written around the year 400 A.C do you think this quote is true today? Do you think it is true at all? What do you think about life after death?

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:48 AM by Oscitate

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Assuming they existed, I'd say there isn't and that the only thing that determined which we went to was ourselves. There are many ethic principles, Nietzsche, Utilitarian, Aristotelian e.tc, I don't believe that any is intrinically superior to another, and that within our own minds they are all equally valid. So it's ultimately up to us to decide whether or not we go.

An example of this problem is the following:

If I was walking down the street, and I saw a man I was sure was about to bomb a populated town-square, I knew that by killing him I'd go to jail, and be branded a murderer. I do it anyway, and kill the man. It was later found out that the man was innocent.

Do I go to heaven or hell?

I think this underlines my issue with sticking to a single line of ethics. Such as religion.

I think I may have strayed from your question Gimme_some_truth. My apologies

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:55 AM by gordonwest

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I think I may have strayed from your question Gimme_some_truth. My apologies

It isn't your fault that you have 'strayed from the Question - Gimme_some_truth'. Anybody could of 'strayed from the Question', since people have forgotten to pray-ask God. God can see all, know all and has created all things. People have been given a life here on the 'living', so we humans can not understand the Question about 'Life After Death'.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:01 AM by Oscitate

Maybe we can't, but this post isn't about knowing, its about reflecting and asking questions. Sometimes the questions are far more interesting than the answers, which is why I'm here. Since most of us will tend to disagree on the answers, but we find common ground in evaluating and dissecting the questions.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:47 AM by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by slymattb

A soul does exist. Where do feeling come from?????

Where does feeling come from? Well that depends on what you mean by feeling. Do you mean it in the physical sense such as pain? If so that is caused by the nervous system.

If you mean feelings such as angry, sad, or happy that is caused by the brain responding to the environment around it and releasing chemicals accordingly. For more information on what causes emotions and where they come from, just click the links below.

How emotions work
what causes pain
Feelings

My point is that reincarnation belief is not even a close to the truth. Its man made and a belief system that I cant belief millions follow.

Hey that sounds alot like christianity! Well I cant just call out christianity. It sounds like all organized religion.

I dont think most of them really think about what happens when the person die and is reborn!

Really? you dont? well this thread provides evidence to the contrary. Have you not caught on to that fact? 172 posts so far of people thinking and pondering about life after death, what happens when one dies and what happens after.

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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:18 AM by Spiramirabilis

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it has gone well :-)

even with some bickering - it's only been just some bickering

and all of it fairly respectful at that

and anyway - just that much more interesting to read

not sure how you pulled it off :-)

similar threads have dissolved into squeals and animal grunts 4-5 posts in

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:34 AM by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by N. Tesla
reply to post by gimme_some_truth

everyone says dont fear the reaper. screw that. i don't want the answers. as selfish as this sounds i would have no problem living forever including watching my family and friends grow old and die.

on the other hand i want to know. but it would be really upsetting if it does turn out to be nothing and then well nothing

Ah yes, mortality vs immortality. Quite interesting. If I could choose between living forever and seeing what becomes of mankind or dying like normal and seeing what happens after you die, I think I would be curious to see how thinsg go for mankind as a whole but I would be more curious to see what takes place after death.

That is an interesting question, I wonder too what others would do if given the choice between living for as an immortal or death as a mortal.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:05 AM by Paul_Richard

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
So my question is, assuming there is both a heaven and hell do you think there is really a way to tell whether a dead person went to heaven or hell?

You do this by establishing an after death communication with someone who is already established to be in heaven, and then making an inquiry about the pertaining person in question.

Within the widespread and traditional seven plane paradigm touched upon in various traditional faiths (like in the Tree of Life in the Jewish mystical element called Kabbalah), the hellish dimensions are the first and second planes – especially the first.

In the physical spectrum of color as well as the discarnate planes, that which is closest to white in spiritual vibration is neither yellow or violet, but sky blue, and white represents the highest spiritual dimensions in the Spirit.

Those who reside on the first plane, typically referred to as hell, have a Dominant Aura Color of brown.

If the answer to a sincere inquiry in prayer and meditation comes through with the energy surrounding it being white, not yellow, orange, or something else, then there is a good chance that the information received is accurate.

However, if the response comes through with the characteristic yellow or orange energy color, then the answer is most likely erroneous.

This procedure takes practice and is not easy but it has been tried and tested by many people.

It will get you your answer.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 08:09 PM by Ghost147

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

that said, in fairness to you would you please expand further on the things you said previously?

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what do you need clarification on?

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:20 PM by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by Ghost147

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

that said, in fairness to you would you please expand further on the things you said previously?

[edit on 19-11-2008 by gimme_some_truth]

what do you need clarification on?