Hello.
Having abandoned this thread a few pages back, I was hoping it would trickle out and just stop. Apparently not.
Directed at Harte & Hanslune
I am very reluctant to discuss things I've already discussed with you in many other threads - without conclusion.
You show up at this website dedicated to
non-mainstream ideas with a set of of
mainstream concepts. I suppose you are not interested
discussing with like-minded people on the 100000000000000+ websites dedicated to mainstream concepts?
As a member (not as a Moderator!), I would like to quote a few ATS policies:
(ATS is...)
It is a statement against the paradigm.
It is a rage against the mindless status-quo.
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(1) We ATS members need to embrace and welcome those with highly speculative theories that may be based on little more than guesses. These are the
ideas that help maintain the upper limits of what may be.
(2) We ATS members need to support the investigation of fantastic ideas based on evidentiary observations across the entire spectrum of our topics.
These are the discussions that zero-in on what is likely to be.
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Finally, I would like to offer this for your consideration:
No more ridicule
So while skepticism and disagreement are welcome, I (as a member of ATS) would like to remind you that
far-out-speculation beyond mainstream
facts is not only valid here but even necessary.
As I mentioned elsewhere: When someone commits a murder it is more likely that evidence of this is completely hidden rather than out in the open. A
police officer, for example,
mustnt wait until he finds evidence before he follows up on his search. The very basis of conspiracy-theory and
mystery-research presupposes that evidence is scant.
Using the "no proof" slogan too frequently, as you two do from thread to thread to thread runs counter to this.
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What does this have to do with Atlantis?
Atlantology wouldnt exist if it did not presuppose that evidence has been wiped-out...almost completely. How? Maybe by a worldwide disaster of
gigantic proportions. Maybe by a cover-up for unknown reasons.
So, if the evidence is wiped-out or no longer remembered, why do we still suspect Atlantis may have existed?
Well, if someone commits murder and removes the evidence, the police-officer has to go by
rumor, hearsay and tiny fragments of indicators. In
Atlantology we have to go by what the ancients said.
In this analogy, the police officer will not say "Well, there's no evidence of a murder having occured, so I'll just leave this alone." The
murderer who threw the body into the river grins: "There is indeed no more evidence".
The tiny fragments (indicators) were listed in the second post of this thread.
The goal of the Atlantologist is:
To find evidence for the existence of advanced civilizations long before ours
Most of us disagree with the mainstream notions that:
* "We are the fist and only advanced civilization, all that came before us were the less advanced and the savages"
Instead: Advanced Civilizations come and go, in cycles (rather than one evolutionary line from bottom to top). "Advanced" does not necessarily
always mean owning the same technology that we own. It can also refer to spiritual abilities.
* "Mythological and Religious accounts were purely fictitious and are unimportant"
Instead: Mythology and Religion are based on real events (many of which were mis-interpreted or incompletely remembered)
* "Our origins are a coincidence as a result of random chemical-reactions".
Instead: Our origins are no coincidence but part of a bigger Cosmology and Design.
* "We are alone in the Universe"
Instead: Exchange with other lifeforms, planets and dimensions has been going on since Millions of years.
* "There are no out-of-place artifacts. Everything has already been explained"
Instead: There are many thousands of OOPA that dont fit into the extremely narrow band of mainstream thought.
if I point out falsehoods that have been professed as factual in this thread? 
