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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 05:52 PM by Hanslune

Time wasted Hans. Its much more fruitful to go beyond the mundane than fight with people unwilling to suspend their materialist belief-system.


Sorry no, if proven it would be a major world shaking discovery. To be blunt you don't take the time and effort to prove this because you know you cannot.


I do feel a bit sorry for the time some Atlantologists waste trying to convince the die-hard skeptic.


Do the proof scientifically and everyone gains, do what you are doing now and you just waste people's time.


I have not seen a single one of these type of people swayed by evidence in the more-than-a-decade Ive been involved.


Thats because you won't go thru the scientific process to prove it. You just want the claim to be accepted without proof - ain't gonna happen.


What about your claim to have studied some of the stuff listed? Lets see some of that.


Side stepping Sky? LOL. I'm talking about you providing a scientifically valid backup to a claim you made. I'm not making a scientific claim, I'm making a claim for knowledge. I think I've proved more than once to have knowledge in a large number of areas. I'll make you a deal. You go prove you can speak foreign languages without learinng them and you can give me a test.

Ah Sky you do realize that we aren't believers? I'm well aware that in the believers' world asking for proof of claims is considered rather rude. One doesn't do that. In the non-believers world you wouldn't put forth such a claim without already having the evidence.


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 05:56 PM by Hanslune
reply to post by Nohup



Howdy Nohup

Forgotten yes but the effects on the genetics of the plants would remain. I think what you're saying is that you think Atlantis had some sorta of influence on agriculture - which is not supported by what we know about the domestication of the known crop plants. So we could say that we are speculating on this attribute.


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 06:04 PM by Hanslune
reply to post by Nohup



Agreed. Where some crops came from is well known (one of precursors to wheat has been ID to a very small area of a few hundred square Km)

Of the top of my head I cannot think of one crop that started on the west or east of Europe/Africa or the Americas. Most came from elsewhere.*

Hey Nohup I'd like go into this in more details - I'll start a thread on this in a bit.

*This presume a classic Atlantic Atlantis


[edit on 17/11/08 by Hanslune]


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 06:30 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Skyfloating



Hallo Skyfloating,

I like your thought of one global civilazation. Therefore, I wanted to add a article to your research that I find very supportive of the idea.

The article is about a archeological discovery of stones slabs by professor Chuvyrov, which he named The map of “The creator”.

I could not find this information on ATS so I am posting it on this thread.

My native language is not English so I do not want to spoil the article.

Please read, because I am really interested what you and other members have to say.


The article english.pravda.ru...

Foto gallery , The Creator map: www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Maps of the mentioned : www.fosar-bludorf.com...

If needed I can translate the last link dut to the fact it is on German language.


Thank you and have a nice day!!


Greetings from Croatia


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 06:46 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Hanslune



Of course it was creditable. It was creditable to him.... The question is whether or not it was credible.

LOL

Jaden



reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 07:31 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



Thank you.

I´ll have a look when I have time. No need for translation, I can read German.


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 07:38 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Hanslune



I did not provide that bit of information as a piece for scientific scrutiny but to explain why I choose to view channeling as valid - sometimes.

Im not making any claims that I can prove anything, neither do I need to prove anything to you. This thread is speculation only.

Oddly enough, you are rarely willing to discuss anything but more intent on attacking.

Dont you have anything to share on Atlantis?


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:55 PM by jaysconspiracy
reply to post by GamerGal



Hey GamerGirl,
Its good to see a follow Mainer on here... The map i think you speak of is the Piri Reis map. It is a map that was supposedly compiled from "twenty older charts and eight planispheres".


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 09:02 PM by jaysconspiracy
reply to post by the_spark


If you are here to argue that civilization did not exist before that time. What are you basing your argument on? Just the fact that evidence has not proven otherwise up to this point? Or do you have any deeper scientific information to back that up. I obviously cannot prove there were intelligent civilizations years ago, but i also am open minded enough to realize the possibility. Its a scientific fact that the ocean levels raised a great bit near 10 thousand years ago due to a huge flood. And I realize that a vast majority of people live near coastal areas, back then even more than now due to our advanced travel abilities. So in my opinion, if we used all our available technology and resources to explore under the sea, we may be surprised to find things that date back to earlier times then what we have recorded. Yes its possible artifacts for the most part may be lost forever, but structures may still have survived the test of time. To me its not hard to believe that there were people that were pretty intelligent 10 thousand years ago. They got wiped out by the flood and only a few survived having to start all over again. If a nuke wiped our our way of life, and for example crushed all our technology. I wouldnt know how to prove to my kids that such a thing as a computer or the internet existed at one time. But that doesnt mean it didnt exist!


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 09:04 PM by liveandlearn
reply to post by interestedalways



I am just part way through your link but this very much reminds me of the book "Where Troy Once Stood" by Iman Wilkens. He contended that Troy was not originally in Turkey but near Cambridge. That the Athenians were French and uses linguistics to mark the route of the Odessy to move from that area back to southern France.


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 10:07 PM by mybigunit
reply to post by Hanslune



Hanslune its like this. There will always be skeptics. You can show them all the scientific evidence on issues and no matter what certain elements will not believe so your idea that showing scientific evidence will make peoples minds up is a fallacy. Example...


Darwin's Theory of Evolution. There is scientific evidence to back it up. I personally however dont believe we came from apes.

That is just one example of many that I dont want to get into because I dont want to derail the thread. I personally feel that an advanced civilization did exist. Whether or not it was called Atlantis is another issue. We are still digging up pyramids and other buildings even to this day we cant explain. Im sure there is a lot underground that we still have not found. I do know this and that is we didnt come from apes 10,000 years ago. If we were apes or neanderthals or whatever we sure as hell were not building pyramids and intricate buildings in South America. That is just my opinion however.


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 11:56 PM by hotbakedtater
Atlantis is one of my favorite subject! I recently completed a book by Charles Berlitz, Atlantis:The Eighth Continent , and a book by Jess Stearn, Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping Prophet.

A thought came to me while reading this thread. I think we need to expend more money and research into our oceans, because as a race, humans may desperately need to glean all the knowledge they can from the horrible mistakes of our distant and sunken past.

If Atlantis is truly a "blanket" term to describe an advanced ancient culture, that was global, look what happened according to the myths: Atlantis was destroyed. Now, what the destructive force was, I don't know yet. But let's look at today's world. We are moving towards a global culture and I do believe in a few centuries we will be a global world (again?).

We need to learn about the destruction that shattered ancient civilization. It may be the only way we can keep ourselves going on in the future!

I enjoyed the link about Xylanthia, Interested. It was a very interesting theory!
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