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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 02:12 PM by Atlantican
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In the coming months, I believe the only *new* rich people will be those that buy life insurance on the NWO members. It's probably a better
investment than the garbage "investment vehicles" their lousy banks offer.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 02:26 PM by eniac
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Presumably a forgery.
it's a bit too perfect, doncha think? 'the lower class of people...' etc... come off it.
Probably faked by the same anti-semite elements which concocted the 'Protocols for the Elders of Zion'. May well date from a similar time
I seriously doubt this thing is genuine... cool find though, if the back story about Lindy is true
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 02:52 PM by wylekat
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Ya know... sometimes the best way to conceal the truth- even if it wasn't a manifesto from 1892- would be to encase it in lies and scams......
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 04:18 PM by Jezus
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My question is how do you beat a foe that has been winning for over a 100 years?
I fear that we will never be able to beat the planning and organizational abilities of those in control.
They are very good at what they do.
The system has been made so those within it can not recognize the cells they are in.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 04:20 PM by Boogley
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Actually, for the sake of the possible legitimacy of the manifesto, if you read the response by another poster quoting off a bankers magazine from
1924. It's almost exactly the same as the manifesto, that you said the website made in 2003?
If it is fake then it is strongly influenced by that article for sure. Or if it's real... well you get the idea.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 04:36 PM by Anonymous ATS
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If this did come from 1892 time then it sure is odd - the main political debate at the time was between the populists who were causing quite a storm
in the midwest with there economic policy,
"Populists and other free-silver proponents advocated unlimited coinage of the white metal [silver] in order to inflate the money supply, thus making
it easier for cash-strapped farmers and small businessmen to borrow money and pay off debts."
At the Democratic National Convention in 1896, the assembled delegates nominated William Jennings Bryan, an avid supporter of free silver, for
president but was defeated by the "sound money" Republican William McKinley. The free-silver movement went into rapid decline. McKinley's
reelection and the statutory adoption of the gold standard in 1900 spelled political oblivion for the Populists.
So this would have been about the sort of time the bankers were cooking up a plan to deal with the 'little people' because they realized that sooner
or later a populist movement would usurp them - HOWEVER if someone was going to fake a document such as this then there were quite a few people around
who might just fit the bill.....
"Populist leaders such as William Peffer and "Sockless" Jerry Simpson were often portrayed as deluded simpletons who failed to understand the true
causes of their economic plight. The Populists' "stupidity" was also attested to by their apocalyptic rhetoric, conspiracy theories, and radical
agenda, which included nationalization of the railroads, a graduated income tax, and the unlimited coinage of silver. Critics scoffed at their
overblown rants, mocked their paranoid style, and dismissed their simplistic nostrums as the distempered ravings of "socialist hayseeds.""
-Quentin P. Taylor, assistant professor of history and political science at Rogers State University, Claremore, Oklahoma
So, it could have been exactly the right time for the NWO bankers to have created this document OR exactly the right time for the TROOFERS to have
created it. Personally though i think it stinks of modern forgery.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 05:01 PM by Erasers88
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Whilst I think something like this manifesto is perhaps plausible, I've read some bad things about these Federal Debt Relief System people:
/57rrre
www.ripoffreport.com...
I agree with Davion, I don't really trust this manifesto, I'm calling it a fake. An interesting idea, but too many reservations about it.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 05:26 PM by OldMedic
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Hate to tell you, but this is completely phoney!
It isn't real, it is made up.
Fantasy or delerium, take your choice.
Sorry folks, but the author of this crap obviously needs some more medications to control his hallucinations.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 05:26 PM by Cythraul
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Originally posted by Jezus
My question is how do you beat a foe that has been winning for over a 100 years?
By waking up. It's easy to beat a competitor who doesn't know he's competing. When we realise that there's a silent battle raging, we might stand
a chance.
Originally posted by Boogley
Actually, for the sake of the possible legitimacy of the manifesto, if you read the response by another poster quoting off a bankers magazine from
1924. It's almost exactly the same as the manifesto, that you said the website made in 2003?
I thought so too. Actually, if you google the bankers manifesto there are quite a few websites giving it credence, and only a couple of them cite
NESARA as their source. I still can't be certain about its legitimacy, so I'm hoping we can use this thread to get to the bottom of it. In practical
terms though, how many of us would be surprised if it were real? I know I wouldn't. What's admitted in the manifesto is precisely what I had
previously believed the banks to be engaged in.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 05:28 PM by Cythraul
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Thanks for your input, but on what are you basing your assumption? It would be interesting to lay this to rest one way or another.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 07:01 PM by Anonymous ATS
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That's funny....becaus the manifesto would've made absolutely no sense to most people in 2003 because soo many people were making tons of money on
their homes and everyone was qualifying for homes fairly easily. NO ONE was losing their homes.
LOL
Jaden
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 07:05 PM by Perseus Apex
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That bears repeating and reposting again and again till the masses awake from their slumber of ignorance. "Divide and Conquer" is alive and well
the world over. What is going on now IS clearly the largest scam and asset/power grab in the history of the world. Will those chickens 'ever' come
home to roost? The fox is still on the loose. Question is, where are all the hunters?
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:54 PM by Jezus
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Originally posted by Cythraul
By waking up. It's easy to beat a competitor who doesn't know he's competing. When we realise that there's a silent battle raging, we might stand
a chance.
True, but many people won't accept the information you present to them.
Look how many people immediately assume it must be fake...
without any kind of research, analysis, or critical thinking.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 09:11 PM by Fletcher33
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I can unequivocally say that I would not have made that choice. However, I will concede that I cannot see why someone or group of business people
would not do this and give them the benefit of the doubt that they who wrote this ma not have truly envisioned the scope or size that this "plan"
would eventually encompass. I could be wrong but this is to me terrifying and something to be discussed. Thank you.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 09:15 PM by joecamel
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Thanks to the poster who researched the history of the website. It probably IS a scam. I like to think it's just their company having gone bust and
now the guy who pays for the website posts his deranged manifesto drunkenly one night.
All of it is absolutely true, of course. There's no doubting that. But, as other posters have said, the way its written is distinctively modern. Sort
of like that "This is what I have done. I am Caeser." e-mail quote that got circulated around in 2003-2004.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 09:32 PM by Perseus Apex
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What should be 'truely' terrifying is the cowardice and ignorance of humanity. Those in 'power' don't have 'power'. They merely follow and
enrich themselves along the way while selling out those they claim to or were elected to represent. They would rather 'avoid' their 'conscience'
and choose to look 'down' on their so-called 'brethren' by giving themselves an unfair advantage over the other. They don't like nor respect
themselves so they are more than willing to spread that pain and disrespect onto their brethren.
Yes, this is the modus operandi of the so-called 'elite' of the day. On the other hand, the poor and middle class don't appear to respectable
either. They bought into the materialism the bankster owned and operated media fed them. They bought the lies and continue to sell out their
brethren to get an upper hand in some respect or another. People are so easily manipulated and deceived into dividing themselves from the other as
the PTB had designed all along.
If you were an alien and came to this planet, ask yourself if you would respect what you witnessed in the world today? Would you not try to make
excuses for your fellow man? Would your excuses have merit? Just something to ponder.
Good luck.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 09:59 PM by inthesticks
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I sure don't know if it is authentic or not, but back in the early 90's, a friend gave me a pamphlet that had this Manifesto (or something very
similar) in it. I can't begin to remember the name of the pamphlet, but it had all sorts of interesting things in it. We talked about whether it
was authentic and came to the conclusion that we would probably never know for sure, but we both thought that whether or not it's authentic, it sure
seemed to be the way things were. 18 years later, I still have no idea if it is authentic or not, but sure seems to be the way things are.
I had just "woke up" shortly before I saw this and was spending almost every weekend at the law library. I searched everywhere I could think of to
see if I could find anything hidden away in the law library that could verify this, but never found anything.
A lot of things I discovered in the law library (obviously true and authentic) and various books/pamphlets and other stuff (authenticity questionable)
I got back then are appearing on the Net these days. I don't think I will ever know what's authentic (outside what I found in the law library) or
not, but can look around and see that many things I read then have come to pass.
I don't know if it's authentic, but it has been around for a while.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 10:23 PM by Nimrod
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HI counterterrorist,
interresting images !
Originally posted by counterterrorist
reply to post by Cythraul
First two charts are from: Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate & Banking Influence -- Staff Report, Committee on Banking, Currency &
Housing --U.S. House of Representatives, 94th Congress,
2nd session, Aug. 1976, Federal Reserve Directors,
a Study of Corporate & Banking Influence (72 charts) ...w/ownership shares added by Eustace Mullins free online copy of ‘Secrets of Federal
Reserve’, by Eustace Mullins www.whale.to...
This one is interesting. Look on the right side, In 2013, the Fed could be nationalize, taking back to the public and ERASE THE DEBT........
Maybe that's why all this is happening now, they can shut down the fed, by mean of a total collapse of the dollar to avoid the people to be free and
escape the burden of debt.
Thus, the american people. and all the others as well, will be push into in a new world banking system in wich every nation would be enslave without
no way to escape.
That remark on that image should investigate further. Why 2013, if it was written in 1976 ? Is there something in the Fed constitution that we don't
know and could allow take over after 100 year ?
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