They eventually have to disclose everything, because if they dont, all of it will disclose itself sooner or later, and if that happens, what kind of excuse will they have for themselves in keeping it all secret eh?!!!


Cheers!!!!

Interesting video. I actually believe that no one knows everything. In other words, the guy that has all the information on area 51 is not going to have knowledge about the NWO (for example). Sorry I couldn't use a better example ^_^ hopefully someone will get what I mean and be able to elaborate...

This is BS. There is no "level" above top secret, but then you get into top secret/ compartmentalized information. here in a project each portion is compartmentalzied and no one in any compartment knows anything about the others


The format for this is Top Secret/ classification name

IE: the Top Secret/MAJIC that some throw around.

Thank you for this video, I have never seen it before. I've seen a few of these guys talk in "out of the blue", Colonol Philip Corso's conversation was really interesting to say the least.

Bottom line imho: UFO's Exist.

star and flag for you.

Originally posted by scar
Thank you for this video, I have never seen it before. I've seen a few of these guys talk in "out of the blue", Colonol Philip Corso's conversation was really interesting to say the least.

Bottom line imho: UFO's Exist.

star and flag for you.

ahh sorry to burst your bubble but Corso has been proven to be a FRAUD...
By Stanton Friedman.

Ive seen this video before, pretty interesting though

[edit on 17-11-2008 by DroolsAlot]

All levels of classification, and all classification of material is done by the Executive branch. The President is the head of the Executive branch and it's the President who signs executive orders. Even if you take the MJ-12 documents at face value, the MJ12 group was commissioned by President Truman and answered only to the President.

Perhaps someone can explain to me how a member of the executive branch can tell a sitting President that he does not have clearance to see certain classified information. The President always has clearance, as any level of classification ultimately stems from an executive order signed by a President. Moreover, the President always has a need to know, because he's the head of the executive branch and must be fully informed to do his job and make decisions. It is logically impossible for there to be a level of classification above the President. Even if some president at some point actually signed an executive order saying certain information IS above his own knowledge, that executive order could always be cancelled by that president or a new president signing a new, revised executive order.

"38 Levels above Top Secret" so high the president can't know about it is simply ridiculous on its face. I'm as skeptical of government as the next guy, and I'm open-minded when it comes to government knowledge of UFOs. But the notion that George HW Bush, as CIA director, would tell President Carter "sorry you can't see that classified information, Mr. President" is simply beyond belief. The CIA director serves at the pleasure of the president, and Carter would have fired Daddy Bush instantly were he to be nutty enough to say something so baseless to the sitting president. The President ALWAYS has clearance, and ALWAYS has a need to know.

It has been kept secret for thousands of years and will stay that way 0 I can not see how any of us will make them revel a word. Trust me.

Originally posted by NavalFC
This is BS. There is no "level" above top secret, but then you get into top secret/ compartmentalized information. here in a project each portion is compartmentalzied and no one in any compartment knows anything about the others


The format for this is Top Secret/ classification name

IE: the Top Secret/MAJIC that some throw around.

Good point. I raised the same objection when Bob Lazar mentioned something along the lines of "36 levels above top secret". Technically by statute, top secret is the highest level of classification. But there are hundreds of different sensitive compartmented information (SCI) categories as well as extremely restricted special access programs (SAP). So of course there is information that is considered far more classified than run of the mill top secret material.

And thinking about the way classification works, the concept of a hierarchy of numerical levels above top secret makes little sense. Because for compartments to be stratified in such a way, some determining authority would need to compare and contrast them to know which is more sensitive.

And the very idea of one person or agency having access to everything goes against the whole system's way of business. There are people with access to multiple compartments, but it's always kept to a minimum and nobody has anywhere close to "full" access to everything. It's not a pyramid structure, but a house of mirrors. Compartments within compartments, the really black stuff is completely sealed off from govt oversight. A SAP administrator has 100% total authority on who is allowed into the loop.


I liked this video, although it seemed incoherent and somewhat disjointed.
I think there were factual errors too. Cosmic is well known as a special caveat for top secret NATO information. Like they would name the compartment about UFOs and aliens, cosmic. LOL overactive imaginations.
Truth is there are probably dozens of separate areas of knowledge concerning UFOs, with only the so called "Majestic" type board seeing the big picture. I don't believe everything Corso wrote in his book, but I think he was around while some of the formative Corporate/Government UFO research programs developed.

The Daniel Sheehan, Jimmy Carter, Marcia Smith story is one of the best. UFO researcher Grant Cameron tried to ask her about it. I don't think she talked. But Cameron did mention the story to a well known space expert James Oberg, who happened to be personal friends with Ms. Smith. Cameron relayed during a UFO convention speech, that later after telling James the Daniel Sheehan story, Oberg emailed him back again saying he'd talked to Marcia and asked if he had gotten a hold of her too ? Cameron replied no, and asked what she said? Oberg would not reveal her answer to the question, did you collaborate with Daniel Sheehan on a secret study of UFOs and Aliens for President Carter ?

Seems like an easy thing for Smith to deny if Sheehan is making it up. Of course I don't think he making it up. I think Smith knows she is under heavy security agreements and is afraid to confirm the story. If the media were not complicit in the cover-up, this information should be on 60 minutes, front cover of the NY Times etc..

when watching this video it occurred to me that o don't believe politicians or intelligence agencies to be credible or reliable sources, but i do feel that individuals who stand to lose more than they gain by bringing this information into the public domain are credible.

what i mean to say is that i now believe we have almost as much information available to us as the governments.

thanks for the video OP.

Originally posted by NavalFC

ahh sorry to burst your bubble but Corso has been proven to be a FRAUD...
By Stanton Friedman.

And would that be before or after Corso died.

And what proof have you that he was a fraud? Are you relying on a statement by Mr. Freidman as your sole basis for that statement?

I dont think that just because someone you have decided to be above board says fraud, that it makes it so. I dont think we should be making blanket statements without some sort of back up.

I also dont know Corso's story but now I will be looking into it.

HA!

Yeah, 38 Levels above the president...

But you can post it on this anonymous website.

No wonder no one takes this stuff seriously.

Originally posted by NavalFC
This is BS. There is no "level" above top secret, but then you get into top secret/ compartmentalized information. here in a project each portion is compartmentalzied and no one in any compartment knows anything about the others


The format for this is Top Secret/ classification name

IE: the Top Secret/MAJIC that some throw around.

In every crowd watching a magician, there is always someone explaining the illusion.

Why are you spoiling it for the others? Didn't you know they feed themselves with this secret information.

Originally posted by NavalFC

Originally posted by scar
Thank you for this video, I have never seen it before. I've seen a few of these guys talk in "out of the blue", Colonol Philip Corso's conversation was really interesting to say the least.

Bottom line imho: UFO's Exist.

star and flag for you.

ahh sorry to burst your bubble but Corso has been proven to be a FRAUD...
By Stanton Friedman.

There are many who believe Friedman is in reality, a disinfo agent.

I don't know who is a liar in all this, but I believe they are here, and the Government knows it. One only needs to see one UFO to know that they exist, I have seen a few, but one of them can't be explained as a satellite, swamp gas reflecting off Venus or anything else. The others? there could be an explanation for them, well, maybe the silent one can't be explained either.

Originally posted by NavalFC

And the very idea of one person or agency having access to everything goes against the whole system's way of business. There are people with access to multiple compartments, but it's always kept to a minimum and nobody has anywhere close to "full" access to everything. It's not a pyramid structure, but a house of mirrors. Compartments within compartments, the really black stuff is completely sealed off from govt oversight. A SAP administrator has 100% total authority on who is allowed into the loop.

This has always confused me, this "compartmentalised" theory of how these operations are run. The reason being that human beings can only work according to a certain structure when it comes to this sort of thing. There needs to be someone who is accountable, and someone who that person is accountable too. The buck needs to stop at some place, so who is the head honcho here ?

Are you saying that the highest ranking officer in Area 51 is actually prevented from entering into a certain area by privates guarding the door ? What of the lower ranking officers within the compartment ? Do they have any right over a higher ranking official who decides he wants to take a peek ?

What if they do have a right to prevent the higher officer, would it not be easy for him to blackmail them by threatening them with a court marshall ? Afterall - who will they believe more ? some lower rank officer or the highest ranking and most respected officer at the facility ?

This is why I dont buy into this compartment theory - the structure is completely unmanageable - you could NEVER run a business like that. At some point SOMEONE must know everything, if not higher ranking officials then the finance dept definately knows. Someone has to balance the figures and handle the books...