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Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
I’m not sure if I agree that Bush was in on it, he seems happy to play puppet. Unlike Hitler, who was a sociopathic genius. He knew just how to play to people’s fears and desperation; he was a master at manipulating situations to his favor and counting on other nation’s weaknesses. Bush is no Hitler, his “handlers” may be.
The Patriot Act is something Hitler would have been proud of, I find the comparisons you’ve made very fitting. As long as the Patriot Act exist we are fooling ourselves by thinking America is a democracy, then again I guess we’ve gotten used to that, the lie didn’t start with the Patriot Act.
[edit on 17-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]
Originally posted by cognoscente
reply to post by TheMythLives
It's really hard for war veterans to realize the truth of their involvement and its whole significance, especially since many of them had lost several friends and suffered to an extent we could not even imagine. And although that's all well and true, it's the sad truth that sometimes their actions were insignificant or rather unnecessary. This aggrandizement of their actions has stemmed a culture of intolerance, which targets anyone that actually digs deep enough to discern fact from the intrinsic beliefs held by those involved. I mean, just because one suffers, doesn't give them the right to oppress the truth, no matter how much they don't want it spread. If they don't want to listen, they should cover their ears.
And ignore OldMedic. He's a plain old troll. Take a look at his -8,000 ATS points.
[edit on 16-11-2008 by cognoscente]
Roosevelt claimed Neutrality and did everything to anger the Japanese.
On 11 September, while Al-Qaeda's planes slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Carlyle Group hosted a conference at a Washington hotel. Among the guests of honour was a valued investor: Shafig bin Laden, brother to Osama. [Guardian]
The morning of the attack George Bush Sr. is meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother is at the meeting. [CBC]
The firm has employed political figures and notable investors. Some of these figures, such as former US President George H. W. Bush and former US Secretary of State James A. Baker III, have generated controversy stemming from allegations of conflicts of interest.