Humans common ancestors with reptiles.

Human hair linked to dinosaur claws-Origins of hair go back 310 million years to common ancestor:
www.msnbc.msn.com...


Common reptilian ancestor:



Does this mean we are part reptilian?
Cool.


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interesting .I would not have thought we had a common ancestor . I had always supposed that we are products of parallel evolution, so I was wrong ,it's rare but does happen

en.wikipedia.org...
Yep.
Microbes to bugs, to fish, to amphibians, to reptiles, to birds and mammals.
en.wikipedia.org...
More about keratin. It's not really surprising that claws were made of the same material on the ancient dinos.


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Thanks for the reply-appreciate the links.
This may sound a bit naive but ,if we share a common ancestor with the reptiles,would it some day be possible to turn on a lizard gene and regrow our limbs?
Only asking

"310 million to 330 million years ago"

how did they test this? i would love to know as c-14 carbon dating can only measure up to roughly 50000 yrs,

if they used the geological column (which doesnt actually exist its pure theory)

then this date would absolutley unreliable as they use the fossils to date the layers and the layers to date the fossils haha

also theres petrified trees found all over the world that stretch horizontal through multiple layers of sediment. which shows the sediments were dumped, not formed over millions of years (further shown by the lack of erosion between sedimentary layers)

also we share about 95% genetic simularity to a mouse, yet we still cannot impregnate a mouse or give birth to one (holy crap what a disgustion thought)

fact is, its evidence of a common creator, not a common ancestor

for more on this visit drdino.com...

peace out ATS'ers

remember to keepit nice a friendly

"310 million to 330 million years ago"

how did they test this? i would love to know as c-14 carbon dating can only measure up to roughly 50000 yrs,

if they used the geological column (which doesnt actually exist its pure theory)

then this date would absolutley unreliable as they use the fossils to date the layers and the layers to date the fossils haha

also theres petrified trees found all over the world that stretch horizontal through multiple layers of sediment. which shows the sediments were dumped, not formed over millions of years (further shown by the lack of erosion between sedimentary layers)

also we share about 95% genetic simularity to a mouse, yet we still cannot impregnate a mouse or give birth to one (holy crap what a disgustion thought)

fact is, its evidence of a common creator, not a common ancestor

for more on this visit drdino.com...

peace out ATS'ers

remember to keepit nice a friendly

happy to debate

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www.actionbioscience.org...
There are many more ways to gauge the age of something than relative dating and Carbon-14 dating.

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While people are working on something along those lines, it's more based on studies of how lizards able to regrow limbs.
However, we do have some limited ability to regrow limbs.
en.wikipedia.org...
Mainly fingers, and mainly when we're young.
However, it's possible to backtrack the process, and improve it. There was a special on the discovery channel where a scientist is working in that field. He's hoping for a gel that will probably utilize either stem cells or something similar to more or less encourage the lost limb to regrow.
I'm not sure if the dinosaurs or the mammalian reptiles we evolved from had the ability to regrow their lost limbs. It doesn't seem likely to me, but I'm not aware of any evidence for or again.

We all know that Keratin (protein) is vital to life and lets face it is a good building block for life.



Inherited? More like designed.



I bet I know where they inherited those genes from...a human...and those dinosaurs got there genes from a dinosaur....

Keratin was what the designer wished to make the structure of life from. It is a good product to build from, much like steel, you can make many things from this product because its a good thing to build stuff with. You can make forks and ships with steel, so that means the fork and the destroyer had a common ancestor, who gave all life steel, which means the fork evolved from a Destroyer 215 million years ago. No, its simply a good product.



If they do not know the relative how can they make an educated guess?

We are not part reptilian, we are human.

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Not really too surprising.
Stop me if I'm wrong but if you go back far enough isn't ALL life on earth linked?
I wouldn't be surprised if they found a link between animals and plants if you went back far enough.
Good find but still not very shocking to me.

Edit: look what I just found

Scientists pinpoint the single event that led to plant and animal life

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yes there is, however they work on the same principles as carbon dating,

and they suffer the same issues: contamination, radio-climatic assumption

heres a good explanation: drdino.com...

also and interesting argument against a long age earth can be found in radio halos

details of which can be found here

www.answersingenesis.org...

facsinating stuff

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Yes, but not exactly - scientists are trying to see if we can duplicate the insanely-cool limb regrowth of salamanders (which are amphibians, not reptiles). Reptiles have limited extremity regrowth, usually limited to tails, and not complicated structures such as limbs.

You can read more about it here. Fascinating stuff.

this is interesting, it seems the salamanders ability lies in its epidermal cells ability to change into embryonic-like cells, ready to reproduce exact copies of the lost limbs

the infomation contained within the cells must be beyond astronomical for them to do this, to wipe previous information, whilst retaining the fundamental cell structure, and begin the change and replacement of the lost cells,


amazing

Thanks for the replies,it certainly is interesting stuff!
Found this quote about the Salamander's regenerative capabilities from this (great) book:
en.wikipedia.org...



I've also read that ,unlike humans, canaries can regenerate their own brain cells.


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How salamanders could teach us how to grow human limbs




www.dailymail.co.uk...

If you think about it, every earthling has a common ancestor, because we all come from eath, so it's not surprising we have like featers, wether we be dinosaur, or turkey, or human. Carbon dating is ureliable, half of the reults are unuseable most of the time and the ones that are, are the ones that are accepted. Evolutionism is pure theory. If you're interested in scientific fact visit www.scribd.com and in the search engine put " Keith Wassung " and click on the link titled " Creation-or-Evolution ": real scietific facts disprove evolutionism. Can't stress it enough.

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Wow, who would have guessed. a biased and one sided article that forces the ideas of Christian Creationism. Obviously the age of the earth, the great flood, and the beginning of life have a lot to do with the process of evolution.