Humans common ancestors with reptiles., page 1
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Topic started on 16-11-2008 @ 02:56 PM by karl 12
Human hair linked to dinosaur claws-Origins of hair go back 310 million years to common ancestor:
www.msnbc.msn.com...
The origins of hair date back 310 million to 330 million years ago to the last common ancestor of mammals, birds and lizards, according to a new study that discovered genes associated with hair production in living green anole lizards and chickens.

While lizards and chickens are not hairy, their claws contain proteins nearly identical to those found in the human hair shaft, fingernails and toenails, on the surface of the tongue and within the thymus gland.

Since the last common ancestor of mammals, birds and lizards lived before the first true dinosaurs emerged, both dinosaurs and humans appear to have inherited the genes responsible for human hair and animal claws.


Common reptilian ancestor:
The researchers additionally found that keratin proteins in lizards and humans contain a high content of an amino acid called cysteine. Tracing the history of this acid, the scientists found it didn't just suddenly arise by chance during mammalian evolution, but instead was inherited from the ancient common ancestor.

The particulars of this important animal relative remain unknown, but scientists can make some educated guesses.

"Probably it was more similar to a lizard than to modern mammals or birds," Eckhart said. "It is likely that this ancestor had claws, which it may have used for climbing."

The first mammal emerged sometime later, likely between 160 million and 220 million years ago. Since the researchers believe hair keratins evolved earlier than hair itself, some of the first mammals could have sported a warm, furry coat.



Does this mean we are part reptilian?
Cool.


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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 03:37 PM by RuneSpider
en.wikipedia.org...
Yep.
Microbes to bugs, to fish, to amphibians, to reptiles, to birds and mammals.
en.wikipedia.org...
More about keratin. It's not really surprising that claws were made of the same material on the ancient dinos.


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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 04:13 PM by karl 12
reply to post by RuneSpider


Thanks for the reply-appreciate the links.
This may sound a bit naive but ,if we share a common ancestor with the reptiles,would it some day be possible to turn on a lizard gene and regrow our limbs?
Only asking


reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 04:39 PM by RuneSpider
reply to post by mproject



Radiometric dating involves the use of isotope series, such as rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead, potassium/argon, argon/argon, or uranium/lead, all of which have very long half-lives, ranging from 0.7 to 48.6 billion years. Subtle differences in the relative proportions of the two isotopes can give good dates for rocks of any age.

www.actionbioscience.org...
There are many more ways to gauge the age of something than relative dating and Carbon-14 dating.

reply to post by karl 12



While people are working on something along those lines, it's more based on studies of how lizards able to regrow limbs.
However, we do have some limited ability to regrow limbs.
en.wikipedia.org...
Mainly fingers, and mainly when we're young.
However, it's possible to backtrack the process, and improve it. There was a special on the discovery channel where a scientist is working in that field. He's hoping for a gel that will probably utilize either stem cells or something similar to more or less encourage the lost limb to regrow.
I'm not sure if the dinosaurs or the mammalian reptiles we evolved from had the ability to regrow their lost limbs. It doesn't seem likely to me, but I'm not aware of any evidence for or again.


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 03:28 AM by dave420
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Yes, but not exactly - scientists are trying to see if we can duplicate the insanely-cool limb regrowth of salamanders (which are amphibians, not reptiles). Reptiles have limited extremity regrowth, usually limited to tails, and not complicated structures such as limbs.

You can read more about it here. Fascinating stuff.


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 03:38 PM by karl 12
Originally posted by mproject
this is interesting, it seems the salamanders ability lies in its epidermal cells ability to change into embryonic-like cells, ready to reproduce exact copies of the lost limbs

the infomation contained within the cells must be beyond astronomical for them to do this, to wipe previous information, whilst retaining the fundamental cell structure, and begin the change and replacement of the lost cells,
amazing


Thanks for the replies,it certainly is interesting stuff!
Found this quote about the Salamander's regenerative capabilities from this (great) book:
en.wikipedia.org...

Newts are members of the salamander family that breed in water. They are the only vertebrates that can regenerate large parts of themselves, growing new limbs, spinal cords, hearts, jaws, tails and even eyes.

As the damaged part heals, the cells reverse their original function and turn back into an undifferentiated lump called a blastema (from the Greek blastos for "bud"), from which the replacement limb or tissue grows. How the cells know what to grow isn't understood, but salamanders are being studied closely to see whether or not human tissue could be stimulated to regenerate.


I've also read that ,unlike humans, canaries can regenerate their own brain cells.


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reply posted on 9-8-2009 @ 08:00 PM by PieKeeper
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Wow, who would have guessed. a biased and one sided article that forces the ideas of Christian Creationism. Obviously the age of the earth, the great flood, and the beginning of life have a lot to do with the process of evolution.
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