posted on Nov, 16 2008 @ 09:50 PM
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by JohnnyElohim
Two quick things. This is exactly what I was trying to get across to GamerGal earlier. It seems you two are the ones focusing on the semantics. It's
not that anyone is claiming leagues of high profile democratic politicians are literally calling Obama 'The Messiah.' Did it ever occur to
the two of you that perhaps the 'Messiah Obama' comments were also figurative based on perceptions? I stated this very clearly until finally
walking away because the point was not getting through to GG and now it apparently is escaping you as well. You two seem to be the ones intensely
focused on finding examples of Obama literally being called 'Messiah' and are completely missing the forest for the trees and are ignoring
the other startling examples.
Sure, and thanks for the reply. To start things off on the right foot, please understand that I don't claim to share Gamergal's views. I just
suspect things have gotten a bit out of control in that dialog and was hoping to bring in a little sense. To move on to the body of what you're
saying above, I think you may be reading me incorrectly. Mind you, I hardly blame you. I obviously jumped in on a particular side of a two-sided
debate. But just to set things straight: I don't think there's a whole lot of importance in any particular example of someone literally saying (or
not saying) that Obama is "The Messiah". More importantly, though, I think the zeitgeist
that people are picking up on is being
misinterpreted. Yes, absolutely Obama is being seen as a possible enabler of great change. I dare say that a lot of people are more excited about
the political possibilities in this country then they have been in a very long time. Just as a lot of people are perhaps more terrified than they've
been in a very long time. If you ask me, it's neither here or nor there. The proof will be in the pudding and there is simply no point in getting
so worked up for either side at this stage in the game. I do
, however, believe that many of Obama's detractors are just plain unreasonable
and I'm sure if you were interested you'd see my posting history bears that out. That's not to say that all
criticism of Obama is
pointless. I'd just be a lot more interested to see people talking about his failure to oppose FISA after telling it from the mountain that he'd
make a principled stand than I would be to see yet another thread rehashing heated racial issues.
Second, although it is very true the black community appears to be very supportive of Obama, they are not the only ones exhibiting this kind of
behavior. So, yes- it is totally understandable why it would be so exciting to see America's first black president. However, it is going so beyond
that right now.
Well, sure. I (an Anglo male) was quite touched the night Obama was elected. It absolutely was an historic moment and I felt it in my bones.
That's not because I feel religiously about Obama, mind you. The next words to pass my lips were "you had better not screw this up."
And that is absolutely all I am going to say on this subject. It is so obvious I'm beginning to feel like I'm violating both lines of my signature.
Pleasure to correspond with you even if only briefly.