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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:17 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by GamerGal
But so far you have one NOT ELECTED FRIEND of Obama saying it.
Excuse me? Being a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT makes one a Democrat, being elected to office has nothing to do with it! Farrakahn is a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT.
Ashley is right, it is far more noble to admit when one is in error than to make non-sensical objections when your point is proven invalid.
In fact, the Nation of Islam provided volunteers and security for the candidate, and in 1984 Muslims under Min. Farrakhan’s guidance registered
to vote in the Democratic primaries across the country.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:20 PM by GamerGal
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First, I didn't edit it. Second, you people can stall all you want. Semp went out and got it. But it doesn't prove the Democrats call Obama the
Messiah. Did Pelosi? No. Did Reid? No. Did any Democrat in office? No. So still waiting for proof the Democrats believe Obama is the Messiah.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:23 PM by GamerGal
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Or let's turn this around. Much like the Rashid arguement and the Ayers BS. Let's say no Republican ever calls McCain the Devil. But the
Democrats claim the Republicans worship him like the Devil. Does that mean the Republicans believe McCain to be the Devil? According to you it does.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:23 PM by Resinveins
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Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by semperfortis
I'm not trying to nit pick but the GOP say Obama is called the Messiah by the Democrats, that they believe he's the Messiah, but you don't have
one elected Democrat calling him the Messiah.
[edit on 16-11-2008 by GamerGal]
Since when did anyone have to be elected to be a democrat?
Not to mention that your own blind devotion to Obama is as obvious as a second nose.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:23 PM by WishForWings
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Racism is a one way street.
A white guy hits a black guy, he's a Neo-Nazi redneck.
Black guy hits a white guy... O.. its ok.
This world is crap.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:25 PM by Keyhole
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Originally posted by Sonya610
3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.
Well, I would think that almost anybody who has run for president has had supporters that have believed that their candidate fit this description.
When you vote for a candidate, don't you "anticipate" that they will, for want of a better word, "fix" things in the government?
Whether it's the foreign policy, economy, or whatever, you are voting for the candidate that you are "anticipating" will help the country and will
make things better!
The problem lies when religious overtures are applied, but that would just be the belief of the person speaking, I'm sure that 99.9% of Obama
supporters don't consider him a relgious figure!
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:29 PM by GamerGal
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Blind Devotion? Heh, more Republican BS. I voted for Ron Paul. What I am fighting against is all the BS. When Rashid gets money from McCain, he's
an American Hero. When he meets Obama, Obama is palling around with terrorists. When Ayers is working with the GOP his Patriotism put Captain
America and Superman to shame. When he meets Obama he turns in to a terrorist. When the Republicans call Obama the Messiah it's the Democrats
calling him the Messiah. When the Democrats say the GOP worships McCain like he was Satan its not true. Do you NOT see the points I am trying to
make? It's all BS. BS Ron Paul didn't dirty his hands with.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:32 PM by AshleyD
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Originally posted by GamerGal
First, I didn't edit it.
Um. Yes you did. I saw your reply before your edit and there is an edit tag on the bottom of your comment. Hello?  We can disagree but please
disagree using honesty.
That's all. Toodles.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:36 PM by GamerGal
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You don't understand, I added on at the end. The part I bolded was not edited. This part is edited though, stop stalling and show me a Democrat in
office calling Obama the Messiah! I'm waiting. Semp showed one person calling him that. But they weren't in office, and the claim is the
DemocratS. Plural. Before you go claiming some thing prove it! More BS. BS Ron Paul never got in. He just went on to MSNBC and did interviews
during the Primaries.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:46 PM by LowLevelMason
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You can see some of those blinded Obama supporters in this very thread:
"But..but...OMG I KNOW OF A CASE WHERE SOMEONE WAS PUT DOWN BECAUSE THEY SUPPORTED OBAMA."
Its not the point, and never has been the point. The point is that the mass media narrative on this is that Barack Obama brought in sweeping hope and
change and tolerance and that the only intolerance is coming from evil, nasty people who are not Democrats. The national media REFUSES to report on
the numerous incidents of blatant racism and complete intolerance by Obama supporters.
We all know who the national media supports, and this just makes it even more obvious.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 02:13 PM by AshleyD
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Originally posted by GamerGal
stop stalling and show me a Democrat in office calling Obama the Messiah! I'm waiting. Semp showed one person calling him that. But they weren't
in office, and the claim is the DemocratS. Plural. Before you go claiming some thing prove it! More BS. BS Ron Paul never got in. He just went on
to MSNBC and did interviews during the Primaries.
Why should I? Also, I made no claims, couldn't care less, emphatically stated I believe specific 'Messiah' examples are unimportant and not the
actual issue, and that I am more concerned with the bigger picture. If you feel you need some sort of specific examples, you do the hunt. I could not
care less whether or not someone technically referred to Obama as the Messiah or if they are technically democratic politicians or
whatever technical requirement you decide to put forth next.
You're asking me to prove a point I never claimed and a detail I'm obviously not concerned over. So. Um. Ya. You can focus on the semantics, I'm
looking at the bigger picture and perceptions.
You should probably point out my comment where I claimed it was fact democrats refer to Obama or believe he is 'the Messiah.' I have not done so.
Those comments came from other people- not me. Furthermore, I clearly pointed out my interest is in the Messianic like treatment which
obviously exists.
You're pushing me to defend something that's a moot point to me. Sorry.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 02:23 PM by LowLevelMason
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Democrat leaders (Rep. Steve Cohen D-TN) compared Barack Obama to Jesus:
Mr. COHEN:
I submit to you, Mr. Speaker, that the parties have differences, but if you want change, you want the Democratic Party. BARACK OBAMA was a community
organizer like Jesus, whom our minister prayed about.
Last time I checked, Jesus Christ is a Messiah figure. Representative Cohen is Jewish so he may not think so, but he has no problem comparing him to a
figure that he knows all Christian Americans believe is the Messiah.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 02:24 PM by Resinveins
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Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by Resinveins
Blind Devotion? Heh, more Republican BS.
Am I then a Republican? (For the record I'm not) And I never brought up who you voted for only that your blind devotion for Obama was readily
apparent. I think if you ask around I'm far from the only one who would think that about you.
When the Republicans call Obama the Messiah it's the Democrats calling him the Messiah.
When did the Republican's start calling Obama the messiah? I'm pretty sure they think he's most definitely not the messiah. They may say the
Democrats call him their messiah. There is a difference.. yes?
Do you NOT see the points I am trying to make?
No I do not. I see you trying to change arguments midstream a lot. For example... the point I made in my response to you... I don't seem to recall
anyone specifying it was elected democrats who called Obama a messiah, I believe the issue was some Democrats calling him a messiah or treating him as
such, you were the one who then added the requirement that they be elected Democrats... But that's okay the original argument wasn't going to go
your way, so lets change the focus to elected Democrats.
This is par for the course with you.. I've seen it on enough Obama threads to be comfortable calling you blindly devoted.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 02:27 PM by Wertdagf
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Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by AshleyD
First, I didn't edit it. Second, you people can stall all you want. Semp went out and got it. But it doesn't prove the Democrats call Obama the
Messiah. Did Pelosi? No. Did Reid? No. Did any Democrat in office? No. So still waiting for proof the Democrats believe Obama is the Messiah.
GamerGirl is right. No one has produced a quote. Semper tried by finding a friend, of a friend, of a friend. The MSM is playing the whole messiah
thing up like the whole democratic base is saying it. I dont see GamerGirl obsessing over Obama, only on the record quotes. This messiah thing seems
to be a way to setup a fall for the democrats so the republicans can regain control in 2012, much like was for bush. Its like a giant pendulum and
their using the ignorant to get it swinging. Im just glad GamerGirl is trying to not be a part of it.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 02:29 PM by GamerGal
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So you don't see huh? The GOP calls Rashid a terrorist, but McCain funded him before Obama met him. GOP calls Ayers a terrorist, but he worked with
them when Obama met him. They call Obama the Messiah, then claim Dems do, but if the Dems claimed McCain was the Devil and said the GOP worshipped
him as such, it'd be political trolling or what ever.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 02:53 PM by Founding
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Obviously gamergirl is a troll. You know she is wrong, but somehow that is different from her admitting it. I swear its like a psychological dilemma
(no child left behind) that a fact is only a fact once it is proven to those too dumb or ignorant. Now I think, no wonder all the current movements to
expose treachery and lies have failed. Seriously is this some sort of god dilemma where you must save EVERYONE? Face it and accept it, not everyone is
HONEST enough to see the truth.
This whole I know the "truth" and you do not seems like a never ending game of tag. Your it! Not it! Is this what we have come to? I wonder what it
will take to see through all the lies, it cost Socrates his life (if anyone knows who that is, probably not).
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 03:04 PM by Sonya610
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Well I cannot recall EVER seeing this level of furvor over another president elect in my lifetime.
I mean crying and carrying on and saying "this is the greatest moment ever!" and "this has changed my life!" over another president
winning. There have been some popular presidents but NOTHING like this, not even close.
To be honest it scares me on a few levels, mainly because if something were to happen to this guy things would get very very ugly. There are plenty of
people that would love to see America torn up, both internal and external groups, and if something happened to Obama plenty of people might use that
as an excuse to go nuts.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 04:02 PM by GamerGal
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IDK. I bet Washington's election was seen as a life changing moment. And Reagan's if you want more recent. FDR also seems like a life changing
President since he ended the Great Depression and made America THEE Super Power. FDR Made America #1, Reagan Ended the Cold War, Washington was the
birth of a nation. I bet people cried for joy when they were elected.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 04:09 PM by AshleyD
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With the exception of Washington, the other triumphs were accomplished after the president was in office and had actually done something worthy
of that praise.
Just saying. It's kind of scary to see this much adoration for a man who has done nothing as president so far.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 04:22 PM by mazzroth
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Payback is coming, this is just a very small taste of what is about to happen in your Country. You only have to see what happened in Zimbabwe and
South Africa when the white ruling class were deposed so get ready America its you turn now sadly.
PS: To all the brain washed morons who call me racist....you can't hide behind the "Victim" mentality anymore that time is now gone.
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