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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:03 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by GamerGal
You can not find ANY Democrat saying he's the Messiah, only Republicans.
Obama supporters love to say that, but it simply isn't true.
Farrakhan - the messiah is speaking (ref: Obama )
Wasn't it Spike Lee who said that time would be recorded B.O. and A.O.??
(Before Obama and After Obama) - instead of B.C. and A.D. for referenceing time by Christ?
Halle Barry said she'd walk in front of him picking up trash and clearing the path for 'The One'.
And then there are the Creepy Childrens Choir from California - singing praises to their dear leader
video here Damn creepy.
There's more .. so much more ...
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:04 PM by GamerGal
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She didn't call him the Messiah. Didn't call him God's Son. Didn't call him the Annointed one. Just said she thought he was blessed by God. So
again, not one calling him the Messiah. Don't say its the same thing. People don't claim the Dems say he was blessed by God, they say he's the
Messiah. But still NO Democrat has called him the Messiah.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:08 PM by semperfortis
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
Read it again:
He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him “a leader that God has blessed us with at this
time.”
3. (usually lowercase) any expected deliverer.
4. (usually lowercase) a zealous leader of some cause or project.
Dictionary
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:10 PM by FlyersFan
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SERIOUSLY OFF TOPIC
Originally posted by GamerGal
But still NO Democrat has called him the Messiah.
Does Obama count as a democrat? He has used more narcassistic self-messianic language then anyone in the political landscape.
Heal the sick. Change the weather. Bible references.
"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to
provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal"
"my hour is not yet here"
He did it all the time.
BUT this is all off topic. The topi c is that Obama supporters racially attacked a white woman who doesn't support Obama. The posts were discussing
that and how it's not an isolated incident.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:13 PM by AshleyD
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I think you might be getting caught up on technicalities. Whether or not he has technically been called 'Messiah' is not necessarily the point. It
is the perception many develop once they see the devotion of Obama followers and the Messiah like status he is given by many. I'm not to
haggle with anyone whether this reverence towards Obama actually exists. As far as I'm concerned, it does. I see it and that is enough for me.
In another thread there was a video of youth referring to Obama as the Alpha and Omega. That's one example, FF mentioned some above, Semper mentions
another, and if you look around, you'll find all sorts of religious terminology being applied to Obama from his followers (and not as sarcastic
remarks made by detractors).
It's pretty obvious many see him as a savior like character, a leader sent by God, some sort of 'chosen one,' etc.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:18 PM by TravelerintheDark
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This incident is an issue of stupidity which has no boundaries in race, religion, political affiliation, gender, ad nauseum the ways we "define"
ourselves...
edited for relevance.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:19 PM by Resinveins
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Well of course Pelosi is going to say that... she's one who's pulling his strings. Why would you not hype your own creation?
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:21 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by GamerGal
She didn't call him the Messiah. Didn't call him God's Son. Didn't call him the Annointed one. Just said she thought he was blessed by God. So
again, not one calling him the Messiah.
Mes•si•ah (m -s )
1. also Mes•si•as (m -s s) The anticipated savior of the Jews.
2. also Messias Christianity Jesus.
3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.
Doesn't matter whether they use the WORD Messiah or not, treating him like one is more than enough!
Originally posted by FlyersFan
And then there are the Creepy Childrens Choir from California - singing praises to their dear leader
video here Damn creepy.
Oh my god, that really IS creepy!
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:23 PM by DaVillen
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What goes around comes around. I'm sure they are hundreds of classrooms around the country which only have 1 black student who will vote for obama
and the rest of the class white and voting for McCain. That one black student probably had it worse that Ms Alfanso.
So no, I don't feel sorry for her.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:35 PM by GamerGal
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And once again, NO ONE has called him the Messiah but the Republicans. Not one Democrat. "Oh well he sounds like the Messiah" Not a Democrat
calling him the Messiah. "Well Pelosi said she we were blessed by God to have Obama here." Not calling him the Messiah. "Well now you're just
getting technical, just because no one has called him the Messiah but Republicans..." So, once again, waiting for a Democrat calling him the
Messiah. Not he acts like one, not he talks like one, not Pelosi saying she feels blessed by God that Obama is here, but actually calling him the
Messiah.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:39 PM by semperfortis
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion. OOPPPSSS
Farrakhan on Obama: 'The Messiah is absolutely speaking'
Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, another powerful Chicago-based political figure associated with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and other long-time
associates of Democratic Party
presidential candidate Barack Obama
, is leaving no doubt about what he thinks of the leader in the campaign for the White House.
He says when Obama talks "the Messiah is absolutely speaking."
Source
Hate it when that happens
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:42 PM by Marcus Calpurnius
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Once again, GamerGal has archived her goal and has completely diverted from the thread topic. Why is she constantly allowed to do that? Its not like
she will pay any attention to what you're posting.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:44 PM by semperfortis
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion. It's all really related my friend...
But feel free to add something...
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:56 PM by Sonya610
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Here is a great clip of Oprah experiencing the "rapture" of Obama's win. She says "I have never EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE THIS!!! What he has to
offer this country will make us ALL better. It has changed my life!" SEVERAL times. Kenya West agrees, it changed his life too!
Then Oprah follows it up with AMEN!!!
It is crazy! Watch the video. That is blind adoration and there is absolutely an element of fanaticism! Those that cannot recognize it must be blind
to it because they share the same beliefs.
www.usmagazine.com...
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:56 PM by Contagion2012
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Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by Sonya610
Who said he was a Messiah to ANY democrat? The Republicans! You can not find ANY Democrat saying he's the Messiah, only Republicans.
Sorry but you're wrong there. REPs only started calling him that after the Nation of Islam's leader Farrikon (sp?) called him that, twice. Typical
DEM not doing any research.
BTW, I have no anymosity towards DEMS, as I hate REPs as well. They are all sheep voting for their 'party.' People should do actual research, not
watch the news, when voting for a candidate. And vote for someone who actually wants to change the govt. Not someone who takes us back to the Clinton
years.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:57 PM by GamerGal
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What office does he hold? What year did he win his election? What state or district? I didn't see where he was elected. Is he in the House? Ok
Googled him and he doesn't hold office any where. So, you have the Republicans calling Obama the Messiah, and one guy, not elected or holding any
office, who is friends?(Not sure) with Obama calling him the Messiah. So now that you have that, show me where ONE ELECTED Democrat calls him the
Messiah. I'm not trying to nit pick but the GOP say Obama is called the Messiah by the Democrats, that they believe he's the Messiah, but you
don't have one elected Democrat calling him the Messiah. It's as bad as when people called us Ron Paul supporters Ron Bots and said we thought he
was the Messiah.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:02 PM by Keyhole
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:04 PM by AshleyD
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You're shifting the goal posts. You said, 'NO ONE has called him the Messiah but the Republicans. Not one Democrat.' Then were given an example of
a democrat using the exact term, 'Messiah.' It would be a lot more noble to acknowledge you were wrong. There is no shame in it.
I still think the perception is more important than an actual, technical example but you were given it. Obama has been referred using many other terms
of reverence with religious connotations. To deny that is denying documented fact. However, to now say the Messiah example doesn't count because the
person is not technically a politician is a little embarrassing to watch.
Just saying. I don't want you to feel like you are being attacked but you're kind of being dense to the facts.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:10 PM by GamerGal
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"I'm not trying to nit pick but the GOP say Obama is called the Messiah by the Democrats, that they believe he's the Messiah, but you don't
have one elected Democrat calling him the Messiah. It's as bad as when people called us Ron Paul supporters Ron Bots and said we thought he was the
Messiah." Me
Did you read that part? The GOP says the Democrats call him the Messiah. But so far you have one NOT ELECTED FRIEND of Obama saying it. Just
reminds me of the Primaries. "Your Messiah isn't going to make it. No one will vote for Ron Paul." Even though no one called him the Messiah.
So the question still stands, ONE ELECTED Democrat. Heck go to the local level of Mayors if you have to. But the GOP needs to stop claiming the
Democrats claim Obama is the Messiah when they can't prove any Democrat has said it let alone more then one, or one who is elected. BTW Starred you
Semp, you showed it, no personal attacks, just proved one point. But still, no Elected Democrat, or more then one.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 01:13 PM by AshleyD
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Originally posted by GamerGal
Did you read that part?
After you edited it in? Yes. After you shifted the goal posts? Yes.
Edit to add: Oh, and just to make sure once again: If you guys want to focus on specific examples- go for it. It's cool. To me that's nothing more
than technicalities, therefore a waste of time. A room full of young people chanting, 'Alpha! Omega! Alpha Omega!' regarding Obama while marching in
line (actual video footage) is much more alarming. It's the general sentiment of Obama devotion that scares me- not specific technical examples. But
that's just me.
I guess this is all off topic though, so that's all I'm going to say on the matter.
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