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Topic started on 16-11-2008 @ 08:06 AM by Marcus Calpurnius
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Many of you may have noticed the obviously shift to the far left on MSNBC. During the campaign they made no attempt to hide their love for Obama. Even
changing their slogan to "The Power of Change". Combine that with Chris Mathew's statements about it being his "job"to make sure this presidency
is successful and his desire to be a senator and this all starts to become troubling.
You might think its just MSNBC, but in reality its all the AP echno chamber news organizations. That includes ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS and the
typical left wing print media.
From Fox News Market Watch:
VIDEO: www.eyeblast.tv...
JIM PINKERTON: Well, Matthews is entitled to his opinion, although if he wants to run for the Senate in Pennsylvania in 2010 as has been widely
reported he should resign and not have a platform on the air.
But I think that the overall culture of MSNBC was established when they changed their slogan, post-election, to "The Power of Change" [another story
NB was first to report]. Now, that sounds a little bit familiar to the Obama campaign "Change We Can Believe In." Maybe that's not an
accident.
But of course, I think the big story here, I think it goes right to what MSNBC's up to as a strategy, is the news that the FDIC, which is now
following election returns, is guaranteeing $139 billion of General Electric Capital debt. That's General Electric Capital, as in General Electric,
which is the parent company of MSNBC, CNBC, NBC. Now, for a $139 billion guarantee, I'd consider, I'd probably go more, I'd probably go all the way
over to the Olbermann/Maddow territory. $139 billion.
This is based on the News that GE has received a 13 billion dollar loan guarantee.
www.bloomberg.com...
Nov. 12 (Bloomberg) -- General Electric Co. said the U.S. government agreed to insure as much as $139 billion in debt for lending arm GE
Capital Corp., the second time in a month it has turned to a federal program designed to help companies during a global credit crunch.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 08:17 AM by FlyersFan
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Interesting! You may have uncovered a real conspiracy with this info!
I wonder if we'll be able to get to the bottom of this, or if it will be
covered up - like the 38.5 billion $$ in illegal foriegn donations that
obama got for his campaign.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 08:28 AM by robwerden
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This makes me sick. GE Capitol should not be getting money if they were not in the mortgage melt down.
Every company that has a finance division does not automatically become eligible for the bailout money.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 08:35 AM by Chance321
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(Gasp!) How dare you bring that up on the "Choosen One". Shame, Shame. LOL. Seriously though, you both bring up very good points. If it were anybody
else the press would've went through the donations with a fine tooth comb, but with obama, not a peep, no demands to see his birth records which were
locked up, what about his collage transcripts? Anything? Another thing. Why wasn't their a demand for a recount? I thought with all that was going on
with accorn and their shady dealings I would've thought someone would check into that.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 08:45 AM by robwerden
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Just found this. This actually opposes the charge by showing GE was asking for the money because of the subprime mortgage crises.
www.reuters.com...
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 09:12 AM by Marcus Calpurnius
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No offense, but I don't see how that "opposes the charge". It doesn't say anything about MSNBC's taking up Obama slogans and claiming its their
job to make him successful.
If you ask me, thats the most damning evidence. If it was Bush and Fox, this wouldn't even be up for discussion.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 10:07 AM by GamerGal
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Joe Scarborough, 3 hour show 5 days a week, a former Republican Rep. Pat Buchanon(Thanks to person correcting me), on every show every day, a
hardcore Republican. All but one show has GOP people on it, one of them was a Pennsylvania Republican House member. Then for one hour a day, five
days a week, you have Keith Olbermann. So, out of 168 hours a week you have five hours with a liberal person. Yeah, real left wing.  And my
point remains, Joe gets three hours a day, Keith one, so at a three to one ratio they have republicans on. Not to mention again Pat, the GOP
Strategists they get on there, and Republican Reps and Senators. Rachel Madow had the Republican Senator running in Georgia on. But not the Dem. So
there's more time GOP and no Dem. So again how are they left wing? MSNBC has 163 hours of Moderate/Republicans, then 5 hours of ultra liberal a
week. Fox has 167.99 of Republicans and .01 of moderate on. CNN had a toss up.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 10:13 AM by nj2day
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Its no shock that MSNBC is leftist... They have been for quite some time...
Its not like they changed their platforms because of Obama, so this might poke a hole in the conspiracy.
Here's another shocker: Fox is Conservative... big time...
Here's a decent political test... if you think Fox is neutral and objective, your republican, if you think MSNBC is impartial, your democrat...
if you think they're both sharply slanted and biased... you're a moderate...
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 10:15 AM by andy1033
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I think you mean pat buchanan, but he is only there just for show.
no one liner
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 10:24 AM by Marcus Calpurnius
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Ohh please. Scarborough is a completely neutered RINO who is flanked by several frothing at the mouth liberals. Pat is the only really right leaning
guy on the network and they always put him up against a bunch of liberals.
I mean come on:
-Rachel Meadow
-Chris "Tingle up my leg" Mathews
-David "I wana be Chris Mathews" Shuester
-David Gregory
-Norah O'Donnell
In fact, this whole list
Its an echo chamber.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 10:29 AM by GamerGal
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Rachel Madow had GOP Senator from Georgia on, not the Dem running against him. She also has Pat on her show. Pat is on so much IDK when he eats or
sleeps or uses the bathroom. He's literally on almost every show except for one. She also has the Penn. GOP Rep on their a lot. She also had RON
PAUL!*SPAZ* on. And Bob Barr. And... In other words just more GOP BS against MSNBC because they have five hours of ultra liberal on compared to the
other 163 hours dedicated to Republicans or Moderates.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 10:39 AM by Distractions4Nothing
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"The power of change"??? Maybe they're hinting that you should change the channel.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 03:04 PM by HunkaHunka
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Well as for the conspiracy theorists... the Media is no longer a top-down organisation.
That went the way of the do-do when CNN started selling coveragte to affiliates. So now it is a reverberating feedback loop.
The good thing though is that no one is in charge of it. So it is basically an emergent system which follows rules no one can control.
Thank goodness for chaos!
Oh and for the record.. I LOVE MSNBC. It's good to see something balance out FOX. CNN tends to be right in the middle, at least now that Beck is
gone.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 03:12 PM by djpaec
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The real conspiracy is the law Bill Clinton signed, and republicans passed, allowing the privatization and buying up of media by Big Business.
Allowing essentially 6 separate firms, with almost all benefiting from war, to compleletly control our media.
www.mediachannel.org...
www.freepress.net...
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 03:19 PM by schrodingers dog
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I am afraid that you are wrong with your information, especially the sequence of events.
This GE Capital money is part of a bailout that was passed before the election. It's got nothing to do with Obama other than the fact that he just
like many republicans voted for it.
Good try though.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:42 PM by GamerGal
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How does MSNBC balance it out? Fox is all right wing all the time. MSNBC is right wing or moderate 163 hours a week with 5 hours to a ultra liberal.
But then again he is pretty liberal, IDK if he's liberal enough to out balance the 168 hours of right wing BS on Fox. Also, Fox hires Bush Cabinet
members. MSNBC just hires Republican House Members, Senators, and other spokespersons. Still haven't figured out when Pat Buchanon sleeps or eats
or uses the bathroom since he's on every show all day long.
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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 07:59 AM by Victoria 1
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This is no surprise to me. The left can cover things up so easily because every station and newspaper (except Fox) has got their backs. Gov. Palin
released her medical records, which by the way is the one thing that by law is to remain private. Yet, Obama can't release his birth certficate or
anything else that would clear up some things. I hope somebody gets a hold of his birth certificate, I hope we find out that he can't legally be
president and I hope he has to step down because of it. Although the country would be up in arms, I'd be sitting back laughing! Hey, at least I'd
still be able to carry a gun to prtect myself and with the money I would save due to no tax increase, I would be OK!
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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 08:36 AM by jam321
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The power of change....
Thank God I have that power. Everytime I hit that channel, I change it in a heartbeat.
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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 09:24 AM by maybereal11
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Interesting! You may have uncovered a real conspiracy with this info!
I wonder if we'll be able to get to the bottom of this, or if it will be
covered up - like the 38.5 billion $$ in illegal foriegn donations that
obama got for his campaign.
I always love statements like this...will we get to the bottom of it or will it be covered up.
There are more than two possibilities. Maybe we WILL get to the botom of it...it WONT be covered up AND it is just as boring as it appears and is not
a conspiracy at all.
Doesn't Paulson direct where the funds go?
Henry Paulson is a closet Obama fanatic? and is giving GE Capital this money due to MSNBC's far left wing slant (as percieved by the far right?)
Geez ...they all must have planned and created the global financial crisis, setting the wheels in motion for Global economic depression years ago in
anticipation that Obama might run and MSNBC could then give biased coverage and then closet Obama fanatic Henry Paulson, (who must have known he
would recieve the bush appointment years and years before it happened) would be able to ask and recieve bailout funds from taxpayers in a ruse about a
deeply troubled world economy which would then allow him to then then pay off MSNBC by bailing out their parent GE Capital (who coincidentially
actually is a financial institution - but I am sure it is just a ploy to pay MSNBC for Lefty coverage)...who would also have to feign financial
trouble! IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
I see it so clearly!!!
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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 09:44 AM by buddhasystem
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Originally posted by maybereal11
Geez ...they all must have planned and created the global financial crisis, setting the wheels in motion for Global economic depression years ago in
anticipation that Obama might run and MSNBC could then give biased coverage
Thanks for exposing the sheer silliness contained in the innuendo of the OP.
Indeed.
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