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Topic started on 16-11-2008 @ 12:18 AM by ProfEmeritus
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rense.com...
Rahm Emanuel - Israeli Spy
What Wayne Madsen Said About Rahm
By Wayne Madsen
11-15-8
John O'Neill and another FBI agent who still works for the bureau discovered that Emanuel was heavily involved in the decision to place Lewinsky
close to Clinton. O'Neill retired after being set up in a smear operation involving a temporarily stolen briefcase in 2001, accepted the top security
position for Kroll Associates at the WTC, and was killed in the 9/11 attack. Clinton reportedly had knowledge of Israeli intelligence penetration of
White House communications systems, and Lewinsky, in sworn testimony before the Office of Independent Counsel, stated:
He suspected that a foreign embassy was tapping his telephones, and he proposed cover stories. If ever questioned, she should say that the two of them
were just friends. If anyone ever asked about their phone sex, she should say that they knew their calls were being monitored all along, and the phone
sex was just a put-on.
It is now known that the 'foreign embassy' was that of Israel. WMR has learned from US intelligence sources that Emanuel was discovered to be part
of a political intelligence and blackmail operation directed against Clinton by Israel. We have also learned that the FBI investigation of Emanuel is
part of a file code-named Mega, a reference to a top-level Mossad agent in the Reagan administration, who was said to have run a number of Israeli
agents, including US Navy spy Jonathan Pollard.
WayneMadsenReport.com
If this is true, then there is already a "leak" in the new White House.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:33 AM by sad_eyed_lady
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If this is true, it's huge. Do you think Mr. Obama had no knowledge of any of this???? He's not even in office yet and the scandals begin.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:39 AM by phinubian
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Only in my own conspiratorial mind and knowing the history of spies in the U.S. government going all the way back to the 40's and how secrets got to
Russia and Israel then other countries, already suspect that he might be one, if this is really the truth and there are FBI files linking him to such
activities what is he still doing in the government, the U.S. not locked up ??? WHY??? if this is true, life really does suck
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 12:41 AM by Vault-D
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reply to post by ProfEmeritus
Good post.
I'd like to see some more sources on this, however. It's a disturbing theory (disturbing if true, that is.)
I don't think there's any doubt that Rahm Emanuel will lean pro-Israel on most, if not all, issues -- he clearly has a personal interest in Israel
-- but I'm not sure this will be the best evidence that he's a Mossad spy. For example, I think he actually left the Clinton whitehouse to
go serve in the IDF, which wouldn't really be a good move for a spy placed that high in the US gov't. You'd want to sit tight and not risk joining
the army at that point, right?
Of course, maybe he was "recruited" during that time with the IDF. That's pure speculation, though.
It's worth poking around, but I'd caution that
- Rahm is certainly going to be pro-Israel
- this doesn't necessarily provide evidence he's a spy
- he seems pretty hardcore: don't accuse him without evidence or he'll give you the Arby's treatment
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 10:31 AM by GamerGal
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Wait, according to Joe the Plumber Israel would be destroyed by Obama. But he's putting Israeli spies on his cabinet? So, which is it, Anti Israel
or Pro Israel?
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 07:11 PM by ProfEmeritus
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Wait, according to Joe the Plumber Israel would be destroyed by Obama. But he's putting Israeli spies on his cabinet? So, which is it, Anti Israel or
Pro Israel?
What does Joe the Plumber have to do with this thread? Did anyone on this thread quote Joe the Plumber or support him? We're talking about Immanuel
here.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 07:19 PM by ProfEmeritus
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There are quite a few more sources linking Emmanuel to the Mossad. Here is one:
www.conspiracyplanet.com... "RAHM EMANUEL WILL KICK ASS & TAKE NAMES" boasted a Jewish supporter of
Emanuel to the Chicago Sun Times on November 6 2008, referring to Emanuel’s role as Obama’s White House Chief of Staff.[
But the Zionist Jew, Rahm Israel Emanuel, who is a dual Israeli/ US citizen, will do much more than "kick ass and take names." Emanuel will act as
an effective spy in the White House for the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency. With Emanuel running the White House, Mossad HQ will enjoy an
unprecedented direct flow of America's highest level national security information.
Emanuel's connections to the Mossad began at birth in 1959. Rahm Emanuel is the son of Israeli-born physician, Benjamin Emanuel, who passed secret
codes for Menachim Begin's Israeli terrorist group known as the Irgun. "Secret codes" are the province of the Mossad, and the Mossad, only.
WORKING FOR THE JEWISH LOBBY in 1980, the youthful & ambitious Rahm Emanuel took an active role in unseating the Pro-Palestinian Illinois Congressman,
Paul Findley, whom the Jewish Lobby wanted removed from office.
RAHM EMANUEL WAS FINGERED as a Mossad Agent by the late FBI counter-terrorism Assistant Director FBI agent, John O'Neill. Later, O'Neill was forced
to retire after being set up in a smear operation.
'Neil and another FBI agent, who still works for the bureau but must remain nameless, discovered that Emanuel, a 'special adviser' to Clinton,
acted as the liaison to former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, in operating an espionage and blackmail operation against the Clinton White
House.
O'Neill and the agent discovered that Emanuel had recruited Israeli Mossad agent, Monica Lewinsky, to enter the Clinton White House as an intern and
then seduce President Clinton for the purpose of espionage and blackmail in order to sink Clinton's proposed Middle East peace deal.
In fact, if you Google Rahm Emmanuel Mossad, you'll get about 22,000 hits.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 07:30 PM by habu71
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While my first impression is that it might be true, Madsen does not quote any sources or document his conclusions. I hope we see more evidence!!
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 07:32 PM by FredT
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Pfffffffh
AIPAC has the majority of any and all politicans in thier pocket from the get go. If you fail to kiss thier posterior they will work hard to get you
out.
The outright Pro Isreal crowd gave 16K last year
www.opensecrets.org...
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 07:36 PM by Pellevoisin
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Both the Republicans and the Democrats have people in various forms of Israeli employment whether as spies, dual citizenship with Israel, in pectore
citizenship... the mind boggles at the number and placement of some like Homeland Security's Chertoff.
Rahm Emanuel is very interesting as such an operative. If memory serves, Emanuel means "Our God is with us." and Obama means "HE
is with us."
Whenever the link is with Israel strange theological elements almost always embroider the edge of whatever story is being covered.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 07:53 PM by cloakndagger
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After what happened to the Jews in WWII I don't expect them to ever relax their guard. Can you blame them? I surely don't. That forever changed the
paradigm of trust with regard to others. Jews were upstanding citizens of Germany only to have their own government do that to them. I'm not even a
Jew and I don't trust this government.
It's healthy patriotism. You can love your country but you do not have to love your government.
"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of
Independence, 1776.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 08:03 PM by FredT
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Hmm perhaps but what Isreal does here in the US and to the US(Thier only benefactor) is a bit appaling
The Lavon Affair
The USS Liberty
Jonathan Pollard
Selling military secrets like the LAVI to the communist chinese. No doubt Arrow technology has already been sold as well
etc etc etc.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 08:36 PM by ProfEmeritus
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Hmm perhaps but what Isreal does here in the US and to the US(Thier only benefactor) is a bit appaling
I agree with your assessment completely. Friends and allies should trust each other, and if they don't, then they are not friends:
Friend; definition:a person you know well and regard with affection and trust
I don't buy the argument that because of what happened to the Jews during WWI, that they should not trust their friends. The United States did not
create the Holocaust. In fact, it was our troops that liberated the concentration camps.
This country gives more aid to Israel than to any other nation, in money and political support. If we were to stop aiding Israel, it would cease to
exist. Period.
Where is the Quid Pro Quo in this relationship between Israel and the US?
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 06:56 AM by GamerGal
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Once again, during the election, Obama would destroy Israel. Now he's pro Israel? Which is it? Destroy Israel or work for Israel?
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 07:47 AM by mybigunit
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Originally posted by cloakndagger
After what happened to the Jews in WWII I don't expect them to ever relax their guard. Can you blame them? I surely don't. That forever changed the
paradigm of trust with regard to others. Jews were upstanding citizens of Germany only to have their own government do that to them. I'm not even a
Jew and I don't trust this government.
It's healthy patriotism. You can love your country but you do not have to love your government.
"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of
Independence, 1776.
After what happened to the Jews?????? What about the 56 million NON Jews that died during WW2? Dont they count? Was their deaths in vain? I dont
trust our government also thats dems and repubs but the Israeli lobby is HUGE and just to stay on topic yes I DO feel he is a spy. I feel he is in
the Mossad in fact. He was a citizen of Israel till 18, his dad is part of the Irgun an Israeli terrorist organization, and he was in the Israeli
military for short time. So for all the right wing nuts on here who think Obama is some anti war guy dont worry...youll get your war with Iran. I
hope you guys are the first ones to sign up because I know I wont.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:01 AM by Waldy
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Rahm Emanuel was also very influential in the Clinton administration, I guess his experience since then is a factor in him being chosen now. However,
there is a theory and many things point towards it that Israel simply own the US and are using it as a tool to achieve the goals of Israel.
So what are the goals of Israel?
Destroy Iran?
Annihilate Islam maybe?
World domination?
What do you think?
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:05 AM by 44soulslayer
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Chief of staff is the highest possible position for any dual citizen, since a dual citizen cannot be in the
presidential line of succession..
Emmanuel has therefore reached the best possible position for himself to enact his policies. I dont think he has to necessarily be a Mossad spy to
benefit Israel. In fact if I were the Mossad agent running Emmanuel, I would choose to give him a burn order so that all covert ties were severed.
From what would be his entirely above board position as CoS, Emmanuel could then advise Obama and schedule his time in a way beneficial to the Zionist
cause.
He's a highly partisan figure... a Democrat bulldog in extremis and an old Clinton advisor, which is why his choice is so strange for a
president-elect who promised bipartisanship and change...
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:15 AM by mybigunit
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Originally posted by 44soulslayer
He's a highly partisan figure... a Democrat bulldog in extremis and an old Clinton advisor, which is why his choice is so strange for a
president-elect who promised bipartisanship and change...
Because change isnt on this agenda. Obama will be no different than Bush period. They are both one in the same and people keep screaming this fact
but yet people still fight democrats this and republicans that it ticks me off to no avail. Look at this video. Youll see Obama getting hugs and
kisses from all sorts of AIPAC members. Look at around 26:00 in the video youll see. We need to drop the Israeli lobby then when we get them out of
our government lets get the Saudis out too. They almost as bad as the Israelis.
www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:24 AM by marg6043
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Like I say over and over again, American are under the spell of change and false patriotism, meanwhile the powers that govern behind our government
are shaping the new administration to their liking and guess what is not and will never be in favor of the American people but still Americans will
serve as necessary for their cause.
What a nation we have become.
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reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 10:12 AM by ProfEmeritus
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I think most of us agree that this selection of Emmanuel tells us that Obama is no different than Bush or Clinton. It is just a continuation of
previous government by the powers that be. Unfortunately, it seems that Emmanuel has some new scary ideas, such as the mandatory "civilian service
corp" that he has in store for the 69% of the youth that voted for him. There is great potential for that program to be abused.
Obama has no intention of eliminating the Patriot Act, or renegotiating NAFTA, so all his promise of change was just campaign rhetoric.
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