This would indeed make sense. An increse in sun activity for the new sun cycle would also increse the rate at which our ice would melt. Saddly from everything that ive read and heard about..... this is a perfect and reasonable situation in which these actions would be taken. Looking at those flood maps really is crazy.

Here i was hoping for some sort of alien invasion... humbug.

I've read at least twenty new threads on this topic in the last two weeks.

Civil War, End of Days, Satan, Government, Religion, Conspiracy, New World Order... all of it based on FEAR

FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR!!!

wow...

yeah, alot is happening, things like this have happened before, and it can even happen in America. most likely it will, since most of mankind has a proven inability to learn from past mistakes. SOME of mankind however don't view them as mistakes, but failed attempts at a controlled agenda - and that is what IMO is about to happen now, another attempt at a controlled agenda to try to correct the mistakes made by thier predecessors, and folks will not like it.

take away your fear and begin replacing it with empowerment, SELF EMPOWERMENT... that is the way you will help not only yourself but those around you out of the mess that is approaching!

Many of us are now informed. we need to begin focusing on information that will help folks resolve the issue that will inevitably affect them on an individual level. How can we cope with this? How can we survive this? How can we rise above this?

We need someone to come up with solutions for the people so that the people can survive, it's that simple.

Are you willing to protect your asian nieghbor who knows nothing about whats going to happen? willing to take in a black family recently disenfranchised by the government? willing to step in from of a battered white man, confronting an angry mob that is so ignorant of the issues that thier only recourse is racial frustration?

What we need is for an INFORMATIONAL leaflet created with the facts and released to as many Americans that we can get it out to. This may help to curb some of the ignorant destruction that is about to take place, and replace it with concerned individuals who may find it in their hearts to help another fellow human through the mess that is fast approaching.

Can ATS be trusted to help produce such a document, free of charge and supported by member contributions? obviously the MSM isn't going to help, unless we get folks like Ron Paul to help facilitate it.



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Seems to many people don't know, are don't want believe what is going on.
Economic disaster, this would cause martial law loss of constitution and end to U.S.. Then comes North American Union, the Amero, all of Cannadas resources, all of Mexicos cheap labor. Look at new port being built in Mexico, the new super highway going to be built by Mexican contractor in U.S ..
Once this happens every thing will shut down until government can restore evrything food, fuel, power, water, control And our boys are ready to use leathal force if you do not comply, that's not talking about NATO troops and pivate Blackwater and such.
George Washington; said Government is like fire, poor survant and evil master.

That's how Hitler controled everyone total FEAR.

Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo

Originally posted by anonymousATS
While I applaude your exercise in logic, I can't subscribe to your vision of a benevolent government. All you have to do is look over original documentation and MSM headlines over the past 8 years to know that we-aren't-in-Kansas-any-more. Can you honestly loook at a picture of Bush, Cheney, et. al. and tell me you trust these people??

The question is not whether we can trust these people or not, but rather why you would not trust these people. Undoubtedly, we live in dangerous times and the U.S. government is not all that it is cracked up to be. Hwoever, if we examine these events closely as well as the organizational and social layout of our government, we see that there's no reason to think our government is actively carrying out a policy of harming of the American people. Rather, it is overzealousness, disconnect, and incompetence that is causing this.

If the U.S. government is truly carrying out some diabolical conspiracy, as you say, why would they do it? What would they gain from such a risky move?

If there's a disaster coming, other than the intentional economic meltdown, rest assured TPTB are behind it. My money is on 9/11 redux -- biological, chemical or nuclear.

There is no evidence for any of that. There really is no conspiracy. Such statements like the one above only shield the brutal reality of economic/financial crisis and terrorism.

I believe we are all way off.

I believe in one conspiracy and thats extra-terrestial but I could be way off.

I believe all negative thoughts of the world ending will be the reason of the ending.


All chaos will fall into control and all control into chaos.


I believe there is something so far fetched and crazy sounding that even the best imaginations couldn't even ponder close to it's origin.

Originally posted by googolplex
Seems to many people don't know, are don't want believe what is going on.
Economic disaster, this would cause martial law loss of constitution and end to U.S.. Then comes North American Union, the Amero, all of Cannadas resources, all of Mexicos cheap labor. Look at new port being built in Mexico, the new super highway going to be built by Mexican contractor in U.S ..
Once this happens every thing will shut down until government can restore evrything food, fuel, power, water, control And our boys are ready to use leathal force if you do not comply, that's not talking about NATO troops and pivate Blackwater and such.
George Washington; said Government is like fire, poor survant and evil master.

Funny thing is my best friend is USMC me and him talk of conspiracies all the time, he believes that if anything like this happened It would be the puppet masters destroyed by their puppets. Marines will serve but they are in no way controlled.

I'm not sure I understand your point. You believe that the actions of our government are because of Armaggedon and not a predictable natural disaster?

Originally posted by VelmaLu
I'm not sure I understand your point. You believe that the actions of our government are because of Armaggedon and not a predictable natural disaster?

or disasters put into place purposely going on according to the biblical script, conveniently coinciding with mans ability to develop technologies to do so.

Originally posted by DarkspARCS
I've read at least twenty new threads on this topic in the last two weeks.

Civil War, End of Days, Satan, Government, Religion, Conspiracy, New World Order... all of it based on FEAR

FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR!!!

wow...

yeah, alot is happening, things like this have happened before, and it can even happen in America. most likely it will, since most of mankind has a proven inability to learn from past mistakes. SOME of mankind however don't view them as mistakes, but failed attempts at a controlled agenda - and that is what IMO is about to happen now, another attempt at a controlled agenda to try to correct the mistakes made by thier predecessors, and folks will not like it.


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Mankind learns from all "mis-takes" and "takes"
to be under the assumption that "mankind" doesn't "learn from it's "mistakes" is to naively think that the major events on the world stage are somehow trivial passages of fortune .. undirected, miscalculated and random.

Let's just say that I'm glad I don't process information of global events from the perspective you seem to.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
This would indeed make sense. An increase in sun activity for the new sun cycle would also increase the rate at which our ice would melt. Saddly from everything that Ive read and heard about..... this is a perfect and reasonable situation in which these actions would be taken. Looking at those flood maps really is crazy.

Here i was hoping for some sort of alien invasion... humbug.

Take notice of the bulge of water tlocated at the equator... the zone of ocean and geography that is closest to the center of our orbit.. the Sun.

IF there was a pole shift (something seemingly brought to the background of this discussion).. then the "bulge" would re-locate to a different band of ocean and earth. Or rather.. the opposite, where the bulge is always relatively stationary given the locality of our solar system, and the geography and ocean waters are displaced according to their proximity within or surrounding this bulge.

If there was a geographic pole shift during a MASSIVE solar flare spike, the likes of which we have never experienced... not at just one moment, but during the next few years approaching 2012-2013 (galactic equinox)..
then you'll see the waters surrounding the CURRENT "bulge" dropping in height.. and the waters surrnding the Future "bulge" be rising as we travel through that time period.

I think Katrina was practice for ocean level caused displacement of massive amounts of people.

and if a pole shift does the same on a much larger scale.. then the same measures taken during and after Katrina will be taken on a larger scale.

I'm just hypothesizing here, but a pole shift, mixed with dropping ice shelves, will cause water lowering and rising.

Any government who claims responsibility for managing it's population, is going to need to have plans like this.. and need practice... drills .. real or virtual.

It's the right thing to do.. what they're doing.
And WHY NOT take the money and bring it into higher hands where more responsible actions can be done with it.. instead of leaving it there.. in the hands of stranded people who can't do really anything with it.
I think the current "robbery" or whatever you want to call it.. is neccessary allocation of funds that need to be in specific hands that can act with that money after the big changes we are about to see.

I also think that the "phoenix lights" delta shaped craft.. are going to be used to vacuum up millions of grid-locked cars and move them to safer locations.
They HAVE , after all, been MOST reported.. up and down major highways, nationwide.

I think this is the most fascinating aspect of what mankind is capable of..
and kudos to the brilliant men and women behind this massive rescue effort, we will be experiencing in the very near future.

NOT ALL government plans are "evil" or "against your best interests"..
there's just some things the public DOESN'T need to know... till they NEED to know.

hardly anyone (relatively speaking) .. reads ATS.. and hardly anyone will read this thread..
which is good. because It would be most unfortunate to the success of these plans if most US citizens knew about these fascinating things we're talking about on here...

but I enjoy discussing this.. and this is what I have to say.

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