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Topic started on 31-3-2004 @ 11:24 PM by Shugo
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You are waisting your time. This date is absolutely not supported enough to be true.
The following are the so-called "dates" of this stupid fictional end time...
December 12, 2012
December 21, 2012
December 23, 2012
December 12, 2112
December 21, 2112
This I got from a calculator!!!:
December 12, 5128 give or take 6 months
or 5135 rounded.
There is more information proving it wrong than right. Sorry folks... but, if you do your normal math instead of this fancy bull crap... then maybe
you'll see.
[Edited on 31-3-2004 by Shugo]
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:27 PM by Illmatic67
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There are a lot of dates but the true original Mayan date is 12-12-12
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:28 PM by Chitose
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Finally someone talking logic.
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:29 PM by Shugo
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Originally posted by Illmatic67
There are a lot of dates but the true original Mayan date is 12-12-12 
How do you get this date? I'd like to know... is it the date math thing? Sorry don't believe it.
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:33 PM by Illmatic67
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Originally posted by Shugo
How do you get this date? I'd like to know... is it the date math thing? Sorry don't believe it. 
No crazy gorilla math tactics, just knowing how to read.
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:36 PM by Shugo
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I am a fair person so here is how I got my date:
I left 12 and December alone...
144,000 days = one baktun
144,000 divided by 365 = rounded 395
395 multiplied by 13 = 5,135
with out rounding = 5,128 give or take 6 to 12 months
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:41 PM by Illmatic67
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Originally posted by Shugo
I am a fair person so here is how I got my date:
I left 12 and December alone...
144,000 days = one baktun
144,000 divided by 365 = rounded 395
395 multiplied by 13 = 5,135
with out rounding = 5,128 give or take 6 to 12 months 
your answer to your 5,128 is there.
And it's December 21st, not 12th. I always get those two numbers confused.
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:44 PM by Shugo
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mmm... I read this... and it was a little hard to pick up in my mind... but, the thing is, that by doing that math... it'd be the real date.
Thanks for the link though I had lost it. I couldn't tell where it indicates earlier than though.
But, this is just my opinion I'm not going to force it on you.
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:51 PM by danielp
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HI,
I do not think also that 2012 will be the end of anything (even the "end of times" doesn't have the meaning of "end of the world"). My reasons
are due some predictions that I staed on my hp Nostradamus
Prophecies hospedagem.infolink.com.br...
C.N
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:56 PM by American Mad Man
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ahhhhhh!!!!!!!!! the world is gunna end dec. 12?
THATS MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!
One question, will I get to eat my cake and get some presents before we all die?
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reply posted on 31-3-2004 @ 11:58 PM by Shugo
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 Celebrations at 200 AM. Actually I think more of this date:
July 24, 5128
If it even ends... and as danie pointed out it's not going to be the end of the world, just as we currently see it.
Good link there too by the way danie
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 12:15 AM by Shugo
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OK then... 5128 - 3114 = 2014
However... I still find this completely not on the money... I severely doubt Rapture will happen.
8 to 10 year folks... to find out NOTHING will happen.
[Edited on 1-4-2004 by Shugo]
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 01:27 AM by Muaddib
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You are right in one thing, the Mayan callendar is not showing the end of the world. The world will continue, but it will be changed in many ways.
My guess is that you haven't seen yet the pentagon report on climate change, and what is happening all around the world. Ice melting all over the
place, places where we get our drinking water are dissapearing at an alarming rate.
There is an old native american saying that goes something like this. "The Earth is like an old dog full of fleas, when it has too many it shakes
itself getting rid of as many as it can."
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 03:25 AM by TehEno
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Originally posted by Muaddib
There is an old native american saying that goes something like this. "The Earth is like an old dog full of fleas, when it has too many it shakes
itself getting rid of as many as it can." 
I like that.
Homo sapiens has been an almighty infestation hasn't it?
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 03:50 AM by Valnta
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Originally posted by Muaddib
You are right in one thing, the Mayan callendar is not showing the end of the world. The world will continue, but it will be changed in many ways.

That's my opinion also...
If you want take a look at these...
www.serendipity.li...
www.levity.com...
www.2012.com.au...
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 04:24 AM by Argus
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Originally posted by TehEno
I like that.
Homo sapiens has been an almighty infestation hasn't it? 
"Why cant it be that the human race is some sort of interplanetary disease, that all the other civilisations stay well away from ? its like 'dont go
near earth, its got humans all over it' "
(Red Dwarf) Dave Lister bemoaning the fact that the human race considers itself, on the whole to be the superior race in the universe
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 05:32 AM by infinite
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Originally posted by Valnta
Originally posted by Muaddib
You are right in one thing, the Mayan callendar is not showing the end of the world. The world will continue, but it will be changed in many ways.

That's my opinion also...
If you want take a look at these...
www.serendipity.li...
www.levity.com...
www.2012.com.au... 
thanx for the links, i found 2012.com very interesting to read
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 06:14 AM by IKnowNothing
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What's going to happen on 2012? Absolutely nothing, much like Y2K. Sure there are always going to be people, that said certain things happen on 2012,
but it's going to be everyday occurences. I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's going to be just another day. And if I'm wrong? well then I'm
wrong, but I'm not going to be all high strung about a date and become paranoid and notice ever little single change. But that's just me, don't
take my opinion to heart, create your own.
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 06:22 AM by AlnilamOmega
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Originally posted by Shugo
I am a fair person so here is how I got my date:
I left 12 and December alone...
144,000 days = one baktun
144,000 divided by 365 = rounded 395
395 multiplied by 13 = 5,135
with out rounding = 5,128 give or take 6 to 12 months 
yeah great, thanks for providing your calculations BUT...
from what date did you start your calculations from? Are your calculations based on just one Baktun from a random time period or are they following
the already-written out dates that the mayans have depicted? from the first baktun, to the second, to the third, etc....
sorry, but I also have more proof that diminishes your flawed mathematical calculation. do a simple search for "terrence mckenna time wave zero
theory". of course im probably wasting my time on you, but for the others who are seeing this, I hope you take my advice by conducting such a search.
this genius actually has it down to a science us modernists can understand.
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reply posted on 1-4-2004 @ 07:40 AM by thedarkprojekt
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I guess not too many people put faith in the almost flawless tactics of the Mayans. I don't believe its the end of the world, but a new beginning in
a golden age.
Click here
This should be a good start for people wanting to learn about 2012 and what the Mayans actually meant. Not the end but a new beginning.
Incase you want straight to the point details
check it out here
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