reply to post by helios prime
I don't know about those passages referring to Homosexual marriage. Not sure I agree with all of that.
I do however know that the natural tendency of intelligent men is to turn things around backwards in an attempt for instant gratification. To turn
leven into unleaven, new wine into olde, Light into darkness. These things are not enlightenment.
To me these are the same types of intelligences whom for years and years and years are talking about balancing a budget..yet this has not
However...back on topic line..concerning California and also throwing in the State of New York.
I find it highly insulting that these states by default in politics, the media, and even in education are supposed to be by implication ..the trend
setters for the United States. These states are the template to be emulated and followed by the rest of us with adoration. Not happening. Whenever I
hear of a trend happening in California or New York state...my alarm bells start ringing and I know to turn my radar up several notches.
The media and politicians often conduct themselves as if no other states count or even think on such matters. I find this insulting on many issues and
especially this one. We will think and conduct for ourselves on this and other issues. Thank you!!
Lucid Lunacy...concerning this quote
You may not think you support guys like Heliosprime. But when you believe homosexuals are inherently wrong and sinful and will receive
eternal damnation in hell if they don't repent for it. Makes homosexuals sound like they are 'hellish' to begin with. This idea fosters beliefs
that breed people like Helios Prime.
The doctrine known by knowledgeable Believers..is that " all" deserve hell and damnation..Believers especially. They are no different. Their God
would be perfectly just and righteous in even sending us ,as Believers, to hell and damnation..for we deserve no better. For we too are fallen men.
This concept and doctrine is often overlooked by even many Believers..but it is in fact the Christian doctrine.
It is also obvious that many unbelievers do not know that this is the Christian doctrine...trying instead by subtilty and reason to substitute their
beliefs and doctrine...by guilt conditioning. It does not work on Believers on meat and not milk.
The concept at issue here ...is the unwillingness of Believers to accept this homosexual doctrine. Knowledgeable Believers don't accept even the
sexual doctrine..as it is made so heavily merchandize of on an unwary population.
Believers are to separate from this behavior. Come out from amongst them and be ye separate.
This is especially true of states like California/New York, as I was speaking earlier in this post, which are used as trendsetters/templates for the
rest of the nation to follow. Many believers are aware of this fingerprint and reject this. They have a right to do so and also to speak their minds
on this as do you.
In illustration of this..I use your point about eating meat.
It's kinda like eating meat your whole life without ever seeing the process take place at the slaughterhouse. You finally meet the butcher
for the first time, and you are like "God! that's what I have been supporting!?!".
I dont tell another not to eat meat or to eat meat. I also dont put up with another forcing their views on this topic on me or making me feel guilty
about meat or no meat. I will, however, seperate myself from zealots on this topic..for you see...Lucid Lunacy..eating or not eating meat is not my
You seriously need a better example to demonstrate your rationale and for making others feel guilty. For attempting to substitute your religion for
thiers....by guilt conditioning.
I am reminded of trying to buy bacon in California. Difficult in many places to find just regular bacon in many stores. One must wade through all the
ersatz bacons in the case. No wonder many of the knowledgable dont want to follow California and or New York as a template.
Thanks to all for their posts,
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