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You may not think you support guys like Heliosprime. But when you believe homosexuals are inherently wrong and sinful and will receive eternal damnation in hell if they don't repent for it. Makes homosexuals sound like they are 'hellish' to begin with. This idea fosters beliefs that breed people like Helios Prime.
It's kinda like eating meat your whole life without ever seeing the process take place at the slaughterhouse. You finally meet the butcher for the first time, and you are like "God! that's what I have been supporting!?!".
The concept at issue here ...is the unwillingness of Believers to accept this homosexual doctrine. Knowledgeable Believers don't accept even the sexual doctrine..as it is made so heavily merchandize of on an unwary population.
Believers are to separate from this behavior. Come out from amongst them and be ye separate.
This is especially true of states like California/New York, as I was speaking earlier in this post, which are used as trendsetters/templates for the rest of the nation to follow. Many believers are aware of this fingerprint and reject this. They have a right to do so and also to speak their minds on this as do you.
Originally posted by heliosprime
Originally posted by AlexG141989
Heliosprime, bottom line, and I can say this with 99.9 percent certainty. God....... he doesn't exist. And your attitude is the prime reason why we need to do away with religion.
We do agree on one thing, doing away with so called "religion". 99.9% of the so called religions on this planet are fake, islam, catholic's, hindu, budda, most so called protestant's too.
Worshiping God isn't a religion it is a privilege, a requirment of HIS grace and mercy. God says homosexuality is an abomination, listen to him, repent and live, ignore him and die.............
Homosexuality itself is a false religion, a religion of selfish uncontrolled desire and gradification, immediate sexual fulfillment is the god homosexuals worship......
Demanding marriage (rights) and acceptance from the world is spitting in the very face of GOD himself.
Originally posted by heliosprime
There are many different forms of antichrist, which actually means (instead of christ). Homosexuality itself is a false religion, a religion of selfish uncontrolled desire and gradification, immediate sexual fulfillment is the god homosexuals worship......
Demanding marriage (rights) and acceptance from the world is spitting in the very face of GOD himself.
victimize or -ise
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[-izing, -ized] or -ising, -ised to punish or discriminate against (someone) selectively or unfairly
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What about the people of California who voted to ban gay marriage? What about there rights? The people have spoken. The losers need to man up (or woman up) and deal with it. They lost. THey need to get over it.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
You seriously need a better example to demonstrate your rationale and for making others feel guilty.
Originally posted by heliosprime
These fires are a warning from God to the righteous people of california to flee before the destruction of BOTH cities of sin.
Is it only a coincidence than these fire, the worst ever seen,have "popped" up just days after the abominations of God took to the streets?
The wrath of the Lord God will soon rain destruction of those who basphem his name demanding to corrupt "holy" marriage of a man and woman.
Repent or DIE...........
Originally posted by mmariebored
2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right
Originally posted by mmariebored
BTW, is this a Christian forum? I was not aware.
Originally posted by dbates
Originally posted by mmariebored
BTW, is this a Christian forum? I was not aware.
No but the subject of this discussion is about the Judaeo-Christian story of Sodom and Gomorrah. If we're not discussing the subject then why participate in this thread?
Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 18:20
Originally posted by dbates
I guess it's implied in the next chapter that it was homosexuality due to their behavior with Lot's visitors. What would be other reasons? Bad banking practices? Cruelty to animals? Murder?
I guess it's implied in the next chapter that it was homosexuality due to their behavior with Lot's visitors. What would be other reasons? Bad banking practices? Cruelty to animals? Murder?
The interpretation of Genesis 19 as referring to a homosexual sin appears to have been created in the 11th century by the Italian ascetic St. Peter Damian. 3 Christian theologians generally accepted this explanation until recently. In fact, the English word sodomy, which popularly means either homosexual or heterosexual anal intercourse, was derived from the name of the city.
Opinion among most liberal and mainline Christian and Jewish theologians has now reverted to the original Christian belief that Genesis 19 refers to a lack of charity and to ill treatment of strangers.
* In ancient Jewish literature, such as the Ethics of the Fathers and the Talmud, there are many references to Sodom. The phrase "middat Sdom" was used. It may be translated as "the way the people of Sodom thought". It meant a lack of charity and hospitality towards others; ignoring the needs of the poor, etc. In the Middle East, a person's survival could depend upon the charity of strangers. To help strangers was a solemn religious duty of paramount importance. See Leviticus 19:33-34 and Matthew 25:35, 38 and 43
* Isaiah 1; The entire first chapter is an utter condemnation of Judah. They are repeatedly compared with Sodom and Gomorrah in their evildoing and depravity. Throughout the chapter, the Prophet lists many sins of the people: rebelling against God, lacking in knowledge, deserting the Lord, idolatry, engaging in meaningless religious ritual, being unjust and oppressive to others, being insensitive to the needs of widows and orphans, committing murder, accepting bribes, etc. There is no reference to homosexuality or to any other sexual activities at all
* Jeremiah 23:14:"...among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen something horrible: They commit adultery and live a lie. They strengthen the hands of evildoers, so that no one turns from his wickedness. They are all like Sodom to me; the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah." Jeremiah compares the actions of the prophets with the adultery, lying and evil of the people of Sodom. Homosexual activity is not mentioned.
* Ezekeiel 16:49-50:"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen." God states clearly that he destroyed Sodom's sins because of their pride, their excess of food while the poor and needy suffered; sexual activity is not even mentioned.
* Matthew 10:14-15: Jesus implied that the sin of the people of Sodom was to be inhospitable to strangers
* Luke 10:7-16: This is parallel passage to the verses from Matthew.
* 2 Peter 6-8: Peter mentions that God destroyed the adults and children of Sodom because the former were ungodly, unprincipled and lawless.
* Jude, Verse 7: Jude disagreed with Jesus and Ezekeiel; he wrote that Sodom's sins were sexual in nature. Various biblical translations of this passage in Jude describe the sin as: fornication, going after strange flesh, sexual immorality, perverted sensuality, homosexuality, lust of every kind, immoral acts and unnatural lust. It looks as if the translators were unclear of the meaning of the verse in its original Greek, and simply selected their favorite sin to attack. The original Greek is transliterated as: "sarkos heteras." This can be translated as "other flesh". Ironically, our English word "heterosexual" comes from "heteras."