Thoughts/Opinions as to WHY Abductions may happen to specific people/families

To ATLASLASTRO,

NO , I have not been able to get medical help, due to my financial situation. I find it very interesting as I try to tell my story, and beleive me, it is going to be told, as I sit here slowly dying, that people will question what I have to say!!

I would explain ;how they have destroyed my heart, and lungs, but I realize from your tone, you would not believe me so I am going to save myself the energy.

It is people such as yourself, with a; condecending tone, that i must question. Immediately, your type appears to disbeleive, and apear quite arrogant, which is very typical of these entities I have encountered. They appear quite arrogant, then "switch" into a caring mode, which is just an act on their part. Now , I a; not saying you are on the other side, but if I read what I wrote, I would be horrified, and knowing what I know about entites, aliens and demons, would tend to beleive; it.

By the way, if one looks up Schizophrenia, the meaning of it, it will state that one thinks, that the CIA is after them, or aliens, etc. Well these things really happen to people, why not create a label and use it as a cover??? So much research has gone into this "illness" by the World Health Organization, but why, to cover their you know whats?? Interstingly no research has been done into psychopathy, which is what these guys are-psychopaths- so t;hey take their victims- label them mentally ill, when it is themselves they should be labeling. Whic does not surprise me, as for them the truth is a lie, and lies are ;the truth.

And, no I am most likely not blood related to anyonw in my family- most likely the black sheep,

Why would these perps be erasing my memory via their technology, why do they want me to cease to exist??? Some likley responses would be " ARe you sure they are erasing your memory?? Why woudl somebody who is supposedly mentally ill, lose their personality? None of it makes any sense, and it does not take a brain surgeon to figure it out.

Thanks for your reply. I suspect, though, that you may not like what I have to say in this post either.

So you are unable to get help, this is a problem, because you obviously need medical help with your heart, lungs and the cancer and blood loss, plus a medical assessment would show that you have these problems and that you need help, and also this medical assessment would rule out Schizophrenia as the source of your beliefs that your heart, lungs, the cancer and the blood loss are being inflicted on you by another source. This source being the Aliens you mention in a previous post. What country are you from, is there no help at all! There must be some medical help available to your community.



I find it interesting too. That is why I visit this site. Lots of people come to this site to share stories, many are unsure what their experiences are, having your beliefs tested is par for the course, here. Your story, by its very nature, tests the beliefs of others, why would people not ask questions?

My post had no tone. They are words. You may infer what you will from them, I clearly stated why I posted my reply. I was concerned, I still am. I find your post confusing. Because earlier you state this

But due to a TONE you infer from my post you can't be bothered telling me your story. The story will be told?

I asked you some easy questions about your experience. There was no condescension. Its ok for you to question me immediately, but it is condescension, when I apply that to you.

You have no clue who I am, or what I do, Where I come from, or what I have been through. So please, spare me. If all you can do to answer the questions I politely posted, is to attack me, then why bother. Here is my post again for you to look at. Where is the arrogance, where is the disbelief?


Firstly, I am not you. I am me. And I have come across and read, many accounts. Many. Many. Many accounts. I was once a nurse. I have also worked with psychiatric patients, many who had schizophrenia, and many who presented with delusions that involved a belief in a perceived damage or injury to internal organs that these individuals attributed to "outside sources or influences". In my current occupation, I am in close regular contact with many homeless people, a large number have mental illnesses, drug induced schizophrenia, or psychosis. Your story does not shock me. I believe that you believe your story. I am concerned for you. It is that simple. Take it or leave it.


By the way, if one looks up Schizophrenia, the meaning of it, it will state that one thinks, that the CIA is after them, or aliens, etc.
What you refer to above are some common symptoms of schizophrenia. i.e. the FALSE belief that one is being pursued by Someone or something(agency or otherwise).

Look up Schizophrenia. There are five Sub-classes. Look at the DSM




While I agree that the CIA are after some people, and that many people have alien abduction experiences, there are also other things that are happening too.
Like, the fact that there are many more people with Schizophrenia than those that have alien abduction experiences or that the CIA are after. It is a real Illness. There are many facets to this illness that make the nature of the illness and its effect, different from person to person. Not every schizophrenic is claiming the exact same thing. There is no clear link between Schizophrenia and alien abduction. Although there are links to Schizoid personalities. So your rational seems to fall apart here, in relation to this illness being a cover for alien abduction.
Also, suicide amongst Schizophrenics is staggeringly high, this saddens me greatly. The fact that the suicide rate is high contradicts the vast majority of alien abduction experiencers, who claim multiple abductions and a link or need for these aliens to watch, control, experiment, monitor etc.
So to use schizophrenia as a cover for these actions, a cover that induces such a high mortality rate, social isolation and drug abuse makes no sense.
The vast majority of alien abductees, are normal, with no mental illness. Which is why, in my earlier post, I asked you if you had ruled out schizophrenia as a cause for what you are experiencing. Otherwise, both you and I have to accept it as a possible cause.

My question was, weather or not anyone in your family have had similar experiences?


If they are erasing your memory, how do you remember what they are doing to you?
You have to expect a question like that, would you agree?


I suggest you read into the effects of mental illness on personality.
This has nothing to do with bran surgery. Look at psychiatry. What you describe is the negative effects of schizophrenia. They are called negative, because it describes the absence of normal traits and affect(like personality). Blunted and flat affect, emotions and responses.
One thing I agree with you on, is the label of Schizophrenia. As a term it is grossly misunderstood and is constantly abused in the MSM and Entertainment industry. The term Schizophrenic often conjures up fear and anxiety in those that do not understand this illness or do not know someone suffering from the disease. Those that suffer it are more likely to end up unemployable, homeless, drug addicted and isolated rather then the evil boogie man that we see on many popular TV shows and movies.

Thank you for your reply.
Once again, I hope you take care.

lightchild,event participants are EXCATLY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN EVERY WAY OTHER THAN THEIR PERSPECTIVES ON THE WORLD AROUND THEM.They are as loyal to family and social groups as anyone else,you can recognise them in a group of people who are co-operatively attempting to solve a problem.Event participants may be able to walk up to a group of problem solvers,listen to them trying to communicate their ideas to each other{ in an attempt to gain a common perspective long enough to create a co-operative reality that will allow them to pursue and accomplish a common goal or task}and quickly bring them all onto the same page or allow them all the choice to share the same perspective or participate in a common reality, then with very little technical information or historical data ,LEAD them to the solution or COAX it out of them.INTERPRETER .The greater your ability to view a situation from multiple perspectives the greater your choices of possible realities.The more OPEN your mind is ,the more information you can feed it hence a much greater ability to aquire multiple perspectives,in fact, human nature dictates that we gain these perspectives AS LONG AS WE ARE ABLE TO ACCEPT CONSTANT LEARNING AS PART OF OUR LIVES. This is our OBLIGATION TO HUMANITY NOT TO OURSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS.Through the NATURAL EVOLUTION OF OUR INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVES OR AVAILABLE REALITIES we all eventually find ourselves gaining a COMMON PERSPECTIVE OR COMMON REALITY.This is the "loyalty" or OBLIGATION to our SPECIES and our PLANET that we experiance ,and this new reality OVERRIDES but includes the reality we had prior to our events.Prior to our events the only perspectives or realitys we had available included loyalty to family and social groups ,which is quite different than loyalty to humanity as a whole,the dynamics that create loyality to family and social groups are self-serving in nature, but are presented as being "in the best interest of all" .This allows for a reality that includes the IGNORANCE OF THE CONDITION AND EXISTANCE OF OTHER HUMAN BEINGS NUMBERING BILLIONS ALL OVER OUR PLANET.THIS IGNORANCE IS PROPOGATED WITH THE JUSTIFICATION OF"DEFENDING OUR RIGHT?TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES AND SOCIAL STRUCTURES OR GROUPS .After our events ,through the natural courses of our lives we experiance a reality that doesnt include ONLY the options or choices that a non-event participant has ,our reality INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE CHOICES --PLUS--THE CHOICE OF PUTTING OUR PRIMARY LOYALTY IN THE NAME OF HUMANITY AS A WHOLE .Once you open your mind to the perspective or reality of a species directed "loyalty",nature takes over and you are left with the only rational humanitarion conclusion available, we are all primarily responsible for each other ,our strength comes through our ability to see past our individual reality or perspective and excersize the CHOICE to PARTICIPTE in a co-operative or common reality.This is why we really do create the reality we live in,why we are so weak individually but SO POWERFUL CO-OPERATIVELY.One man cannot change the world ,BUT ONE MANS WORDS CAN PROVIDE A NEW PERSPECTIVE THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE PATH OF A COMMON HUMANITARIAN FUTURE WHERE HUMANS ARE ALLOWED TO EVOLVE NATURALLY AND WHERE HUMANS AS A SPECIES TAKE STEWARDSHIP OF THE PLANET AS A GROUP AS ONE ENTITY AS ONE REALITY.Please remember that this is a natural process that "just takes to long in terms of our human lifespans",it has nothing to do with our brains ability to process the perspectives and realitys that become available to it ,we just dont live long enough.Think of it this way,all in implant does is allow your brain to learn at "full throttle"longer than is "considered"natural. .No matter what state our species is in,we need to ensure that adequate education is available to all human beings on our planet.How handy would abducties be in a severly underpopulated earth?We would be a little like modern day"no disrespect to any religon" jesuses or prophets.We are not!!!!

reply to post by designer1

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Don't worry, for every alien abduction post here at ATS there are about 5 who discredit the story or the teller. There is no forum for abductees so we mostly have to tolerate it.

Could you please tell of your most vivid abduction experience and what happened to you? I realize you have experiences and awareness beyond the norm but it would be very informative to know about your most vivid?
Thank you

Yeah, don't worry Designer1, I mean its ridiculous to ensure that the mental health issues you mention in your original post, are not a potential cause for these experiences you describe and that they are a not a consequences of a false belief due your schizophrenia, the schizophrenia, you menton in your post. And don't worry that you are in serious danger of having these beliefs re-inforced by others purely because they are not secure enough in their own beliefs and experiences and choose to ignore these dangers, and in doing so potenetially do far more damage then good.

To spacecowgirl, never in my time here have I seen such a reckless, ignorant and down right careless reply. I suggest you re-read the posts. Carefully. Than take a good long hard look at yourself in the mirror, long and hard, and ask yourself this: Are the expression of your beliefs on ATS so important to you that you will ignore the well being and health of another individual.
Perhaps you can visit hospitals and psychiatric care facilities etc, and call all those who show concern and offer help and care SCEPTICS and then reassure all the patients of the SCEPTICS(those showing concern and care about an individuals mental health) that they should not worry about what the SCEPTICS(those showing concern about an individuals mental health) say.
I am sickened by you. Not your beliefs, not your experiences. Just by you!
This is what designer1 posted.post by designer1
And this is your reply, here i will quote it again for you, so it sinks in, what your advices is to this individual.


Thank god you don't have your own thread!
Thank god.

EldersCouncil ,I am aware you have an extensive knowledge of event descriptions based on the direction of the questions you ask in the threads you visit.I dont know your history or "story"if you have one ,but something tells me you should communicate with Joninmichigan a little more.I want to ask you something please.Have you heard many mention of "power of emotion"having a direct part to play{wether it is positive or negative}in the event itself ,or has "strong emotion"in some way allowed an event participant to "regain control"during an event? Im not looking for numbers here,but the question is very important,even one instance. I developed a method of "subverting"the paralysis or whatever it is that is done during an event.I was able to stay "aware"NOT"awake"during TWO events,one at home and one aboard a craft.While on the craft the other participants ,who assumed they had total control over the entire process, DID NOT KNOW I WAS AWARE until I expressed A TREMENDOUS EMOTION,this emotion was caused directly by the actions of the participants.The specifics of cause and effect will take to long to post now.However ,my ability to "wake up " because of my emotional reaction wasnt the greatest surprise to them.IT WAS THE POWER of the emotion.There was a woman in control of that portion of the event ,she was shocked by the strengthh of my emotion and she commented on it immediatly.Once I was awake and they knew it MY WISHES WERE RESPECTED,i requested a halt to the events progress and it was halted,I requested explanation and it was given ,in a context I could understand.I was given FREEDOM OF CHOICE AFTER THINGS WERE EXPLAINED TO ME IN A CONTEXT I COULD UNDERSTAND. I gave permission for the event to continue after SOME THINGS were explained to me.Many things happened after I was awake , I wont comment on them because they are my "sounding board"for finding others who have had events like mine.The things that happened to me ARE NOT LIKE THE MAJORITY OF WHAT I HAVE READ,but there are enough similarities that I can sift through these posts and find the stories that have commonalities with mine.Thats all I need, I am not looking for validation of my event ,I am looking for fellow event participants.I dont remember excatly all of what was said during the event,I was able to "feel" the conversations,and there was a moment where I was in great danger,the woman "saved me"from being permanently "taken"against my will.If you arent aware of them your fate is questionable,but when you are awake they have some type of rules they must follow.When it was realised I was aware I became a problem somehow.The event participants I clearly remember were HUMAN and all male except one, but the little "thing"that was in my home and on the craft ,I couldnt clearly see although I could feel that it was afraid of ME and it was something like disgusted by me or repulsed by me?Without the humans I was screwed and I felt it ,and Im not saying that the humans didnt have the capacity to harm me because they were going to take me,Im saying that without them there would have been no control of the event ,or compassion for me as a human being.Humans are OVERSEEING events.Our emotions are VERY SPECIAL OR HARD FOR SOMEONE? TO CONTROL.If your emotions are strong it is an asset somehow.The humans have a sense of humor.There is a military structure with them.THEY ARE NOT CONCERENED WITH THE LITTLE GUYS .We are or will be greater than them.Humans can DO MORE THAN WE THINK MENTALLY.Emotions are our WILD CARD.I am sorry for being off topic ,but it is sometimes people who post slightly off topic that stimulate threads the most.EldersCouncil,also,have you heard of anyone being offered food or water during an event?And did anyone ever describe being able to influence the little guys or how they did it if they did?Have you heard a description of how they got to the craft?I remember.What languages did they speak?What did their voices sound like?Will post in 12 hrs.More to share

I recommend Alien Mind to discuss the physics part of it. Also this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com... by the same author.

Also Tom Bearden's sight which talks about this: www.prahlad.org...



and from Alien Mind:

In answer to these: 1) don't understand the mass hysteria. Didn't feel too upset, rather filled with a wonderment and joy over seeing the crafts. My brother's missing time after seeing a craft while driving truck was isolated from my experiences, and my children all see what is there as well. That is illogical.

2) Theres much more than simple dna work going on. In our case, my memory involves groups of children being involved for some reason, and lifelong monitoring. There is a huge feeling of memory loss, and that may cover some of the more nefarious things maybe, but... the overall feeling is kind and warm in a 2 way manner.

3) No one is making it up. They're sharing primarily with those who are also going through things themselves to try and sort out, or flesh out their experiences, memories, or attain purpose to what they are experiencing. End of story.

I have had some bizarre occurrences that I wasn't sure how to classify because the simple fact is that I do not know. Anyway to get to my point

One of my friends named Ryan was diagnosed early on that he was schizophrenic. For the many years that I have known him I have heard some unusual tales to say the least. The thought did occur to me once that perhaps these people might actually see something that others cannot and it terrifies them so badly they are irrational.

Below is a story that he told me about an abduction type event while he was medicated and talking rationally.

Ryan claimed that he was listening to some music and went downstairs to feed his dog. After he did this he heard car doors shut outside. He claimed that he saw two men dressed like Mormons come to his door and rang the doorbell. He claimed that as they got closer to the door. He saw them change shape into grey aliens with obviously fake disguises (wigs, clothes hanging off them). He said they floated in the air.

He spoke to them and they tried to get him to open up the door. He refused and one of them said, "We know you can see us like this." He said one of them put their hand through his door and their bodies passed through the door. He claimed that they picked him up and dragged him to the dining room and took off his clothes. He also claimed they would reach into his body and touch his organs without cutting.

He said they told him to be calm and he would not be injured. He claims he could not move or talk only utter noises. He claims he fainted because of the pain. He watched as they told him they were finished and again to be calm. He claims they floating through the wall and he was able to move again.

He looked outside and saw a bright light over his house and the car was gone. It was also night when it was over. Even with medication he claims he still sees the same people parked in front of his home or drive by every so often and they point at him.


I do not judge him but, listen to him. It's interesting if nothing else.










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YOU sir are the most arrogant and rude individual i have ever had the displeasure to meet on this board and trust me that is saying something.

YOU may rate kindness or compassion or plain old listening to others as reckless and careless but I do not. EVERYONE has the right to a voice here and for your information, there are not 2 people alike in this whole world so there will be some out there who seem strange but it is not to say that they do not have value nor a valid viewpoint. Last i heard, their vote was as good as yours.

I see smart alecs on this board slam dunk people here with their denigrating rudeness and fancy talk but it doesn't fool me.

You can deny ignorance all you like but if you act it, it is plain for all to see.

Chill out, be nice and lets see what someone has to say and where they are going with things before you jump down their throat.
Everyone here seems so damn trigger happy!

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The men in Black scenario is quite common all over the world but what is uncommon, is what your friend experienced. There are usually stand over tactics and psychic attacks but I have never heard of something like what he described. Which is not to say it didn't happen.

Yes, I think you are right, some people who have mental illness are able to see and experience things that others can't. The first thing that MKULTRA programs do is to sheer off another personality so I often view schitzophrenics as people who are able to see and experience a lot more than usual. I also see them as people who walk 2 worlds at once, both this one and the astral. I may be wrong in my perception but that is what I have deducted from years of observation.

I believe that if someone was also in the room with your friend at the same time, they would see 2 men in black come to the door and try to get in but unable to. I see your friend as being totally aware of another dimension as in, seeing who THEY really were/are, seeing them come through the door, operate, leave.

I also have seen aliens walk through doors and walls. Was it astral? was it 3d? Not sure, however on one occassion they left footprints so a bit of both I think.

Amazing story. I have often heard of MIB stand over tactics and how terrified strong brave people are of them and long thought they were up to something in another dimension that wasn't immediately obvious so your story pans out well.

reply to post by mystiq

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Good quotes and links. Most interesting thanks. I have been targetted with an electromagnetic beam before so your post brings up questions. IF as you say electromagnet energy is the cause of time speeding up/slowing down etc, then was the energy sent to freeze time, during which was I abducted, then did time carry on? There was no missing time during this experience so it makes me wonder after reading your quote.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS

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I would be interested to hear more. Did you feel that the humans were hybrids? For what purpose were they doing things to you? Did you feel the humans were military?

Mabey some of us are the off spring of these experimants?

I was adopted, my mother is deceased, father unknown......

A bit convienient I would say, no medical records etc, etc....

How many others are adopted, and have no medical records or way to get them?

I have absolutly NO paranoia of any kind, just the knowlege of what happened etc.....

not too much personality change except for post tramatic stress, which cut back on my excessive giggling before these events occurred, but as the last one was around 5 years ago,2003 I am again recovering to the point of being a bit of a giggler again.....the last time before that 2000 the recovery was around 1 1/2 years, and the time before that 1989 I was in such denial I kept on a giggling...

some points to ponder.

Spacecowgirl,they were definately human-but they were all blonde ,they were diferent human types individually but all blonde I talked to several and their reactions to me all showed diffeent levels of empathy so I know they have a social order excatly like ours,the purpose was initially reproduction but progressed to an offer of the chance to leave permanantly-there were military reasons,and yes the males were definately military,they had human command structure.I know why you asked now.Put it this way,I dont know how or why other event participants are allowed to interact with the abductors ,I iniated my own contact and forced it to happen after that events took their own course .My conversations were "incidental" but sincere with the event participants because I believe they thought I wouldnt remember anything later.Had I not had immediate communication with the woman present I would have probably been terrified .Had I not been ,aware "but not awake" I wouldnt have known what was happening and I dont believe I would have been able to express such emotional strength.I would have been unconscious,so I believe most of my event was "incidental" and purely out of curiosity of some sort about me as an individual.They couldnt understand how I was able to remain aware of them,and they were really perturbed when I told them I was also aware of the event in my house when the came to get me.You see,as I was being sent home I showed expectation at a point in the event that had already happened several times when I wasnt "aware"--except during the earlier events I showed trepedation or fear-- the man that recognised the difference immediatly questioned me as to why my reaction had changed,and I told him excatly why.When the Leader found out I had been aware he wanted to keep me ,the woman inteceded on my behalf and I as instead "informed of some things"then given the choice to stay or go home.Sorry but I have to say this "hold on to your spaceboots"because I was informed of a galactic war and the word galactic is definate,I was told I could operate a ship myself right now I just dont realise it,we are willing participants in the war.We are badly needed as a matter of fact.I chose to have nightmares for years as a child that I was forced through moral obligton to fight in a war I didnt want to fight in---because I chose to stay here.But I WAS GIVEN THE CHOICE.I bet there were cattle mutilations somewhere around where you lived as a kid.I can tell you "scientifically"why I know-even if you havent researched it yet.I cant imagine if all abductees are treated like I was or if they have memories of being frozen in the moment or if they actually had mutual conversations with the humans.I can see the potential for a lot of "bad" experiances and that is excatly why I look for commonalities in others events that are dynamicly or physically the same as mine.The only need I felt expressed was that of support in the war from us on earth.I dont know why they were taking samples of me.I dont know why I was given any choices at all.None of that was explained to me,and I was young,had I asked any question I it would have been answered.I was given a nasal implant that blew my learning capacity off the charts,I had a high school library card when I was nine years old--the only kid ever in the history of my town--I took a mandatory I.Q test in school ,and was asked to please repeat the test{along with a girl},it was because our marks were so high they were off the scale.I wrote a short story in grade schol that was sent to a contest by my substitute teacher,I won ,and my real prize came fifteen years later when I read my story in a paperback by a now famous author-thief.I think many peple who have had an event are finding themselves learning about seemingly bizarre topic,like earth changes,and stockpiling resources,or being prepared for something,we are reading the signs of our times.Did you see any little things like dwarfs?Did you talk to them?

reply to post by mellisamouse

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Adoption agencies usually have all the information you will need as to family history etc. have you tried to contact an Aunt or Uncle of your biological Mother/father?

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Yes I am very familiar with the dwarfs. Not too bright creatures. Minions. However one night when I was about 13 they decided they would rape me.
They were sick of taking me to the greys and decided they would have me for themselves. There were about 6 who surrounded me and their intent was pure evil. I would say i know more about these creatures than anyone else in the world at this time. Unfortunately.

Yes i am aware of some war. They trained me to kill etc.
I remember the cattle going crazy near where I lived whenever I was abducted. I remember feeling agitated and antsy and my cat not going near me on those nights.

Let me make this clear, Aliens have put me through hell and back. I can never forgive them for what they have done to me.

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Coming from you, that is a complement. If my worry for an individual, who admits to a mental illness, upsets you then I believe it only confirms my belief that you are only interested in your own beliefs. Even at the expense of endangering another members health, perception and reality. Remeber, this is about the denial of Ignorance. To not exclude the posters Schizophrenic Illness as the cause of the experiences is, not only dangerous to that individuals health and well being, but destroys any practical discussion on the experiences of those who do not have Schizophrenia. If you can not see the screaming logic in A: Addressing the health ramifications and care for Schizophrenia B:To discover the true source of what may be an extremely traumatic experience. C: Build serious discussion on the issue of Alien Abduction Experiences then once again I can only conclude that you are only here to express your OWN point of view and belief at the expense of all others.

Do you think it is kind to re-inforce a false belief possible inspired by schizophrenia. Do you think it is kind to encourage an Individual to Ignore Schizophrenia. Do you think it is Kind to listen to someone who, not only stated that they have a mental illness, but also expressed the belief that they have other medical issues resulting from an experience that might just be from Schizophrenia, and then tell them not to worry about it or the advice to seek counsel relating to schizophrenia.
Compassion and kindness are not merely listening and then agreeing because it fits within what you believe. It is also acting, at all times with the Truth even when it is harsh and hard to deal with, and that truth happens to be that the Poster has Schizophrenia, and it is also that this mental illness may be the cause of that posters experience. But the only logical way to do that is to Address the issue of Schizophrenia.
But your version of kindness and compassion is to simply dismiss this issue of schizophrenia, and the sensible need to seek help and treatment and encourage the Poster designer1 to delve into an experience whose sole source may be Schizophrenia. Once again, I am appalled at your perspective on this issue, and that you would encourage this. Besides the obvious inhumanity of your actions, you also destroy any real hope of having the issue of Alien Abduction taken seriously if you do not eliminate mental illness as a source or cause for any personal testimony.


Where have I denied you a voice? Where did I say that everyone is alike? Are you also saying that my posts are not valid? I believe my post on the member Designer1 are not only valid from a contributory perspective but also for the health, topic and a general concern for the well being of Designer1.
Last I heard, I didn't even mention denying any one a vote, last I heard, your entire comment above has no rationale for being in the discussion, as my reply was directed at the recklessnes of your encouragement of member Designer1, to ignore my post purely based on your belief that my having address Designer1 schizophrenia was a sceptical attack, and nothing else.
I believe you took this stance because you are not interested in anything other than what you believe. Not even the well being of someone who admits that they have schizophrenia.

Once again I can only express my dismay at the perspective from which you observe reality. I don't need or want to fool you. Some people already do that to themselves. As it is obvious you have no intent in acting with care for other members here. As is evident from your encouragement of Poster Designer1 to ignore the concern expressed by myself in relation to Designer1' schizophrenia.

LOL. Read what you just wrote. Now apply it, to yourself.


Chill out?
Not when someone is ill.
Not when it has to be addressed.
Not when others act in a manner which may endanger them of ignoring medical attention or proper advice and counsel.
Not now, not ever.
I suggest you chill out and let someone have their say. I addressed the poster schizophrenia, why is this a such problem for you?
Why do you believe it is not a valid line of discussion? Especially when Designer1 introduced the issue, NOT ME?
Why can I not suggest that this illness might be a cause?
Why am I not allowed to apply my experience, knowledge, compassion and care to what is an extremely important issue?
Why do you hate, and are so afraid of any other point of view that questions the experiences? And more importantly why do you allow that fear and hate and to endanger the health and well being of another?

Only to you, only to you. I've been here for a short time, but not shorter than you and I can say that the vast majority of people are here to learn and express themselves. How many times have you had posts removed? How many time have the mods warned you?
Perhaps your time here would not seem this way if you where not so habitual at firing recklessly at anyone who does not agree with what you believe. You seem to take criticism as if it is a denial of your ability to express yourself. This is not true. Or will it ever be. IT IS NOT I WHO NEEDS TO CHILL OUT.


P.S. Please, do me a favour and put me on your Ignore list.

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reply to post by spacecowgirl

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I paid all the fees for the info...they had nothing.

Pertaining to the blonde human hybrids you met there, have they ever in the experience introduced you to ones that are your off spring so that said off spring can know who you are?
Also although blonde did they have big blue eyes, not huge or anything just about 1 1/2 times the size of ours?
Had some experiences up until I had my last child and with everyone they came to check them, I woke up during the last one and wanted them away from my baby. So they packed up and left. I had obviously passed out but woke and went flying out of my bed to realise it was almost 130pm and all 3 of my kids 2 1 and new where still asleep when they would have been waking me all night.
Funny thing is that I can remember all of it plain as day, I would always be found outside my home when I was a toddler even when they put master locks on the doors and windows. I would always tell my mom I was playing with my friends. there is no memory blocks of any kind and I have even talked to others since then. For some reason they are trying to protect me and my children; I have yet to figure out why.