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Bush pardons himself


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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 11:57 AM by Kailassa


Originally posted by arcnaver
So he isnt that bright?
But he is bright enough to orchestrate 9/11?
Which is it? Is he smart or not, you people cant have it both ways, at least be consistent. Either hes a very intelligent person who is capable of pulling the wool over everyones eyes and orchestrated the largest conspiracy known in modern times. Or hes dumb as a box of rocks. Which one is it people?


Classic disinfo straw-man.

The fact that 9/11 was, at least partly, an inside job, does not mean Bush orchestrated it.

You haven't learned yet that even Presidents are just puppets?

This is why there will be no prosecutions.
Proving the official story wrong /= knowing the details about how it was achieved.
Knowing how it was achieved /= knowing who was responsible.



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 12:00 PM by ClintK


Originally posted by ZindoDoone
Presidents can pardon anyone for anything. Clinton signed like 700 pardons the day before he left office.


Zindo


Incorrect. Clinton granted 396 pardons during the entire 8 year tenure of his presidency.



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 12:33 PM by jcheney


Originally posted by OldMedic
You ignorant fools amaze me. You take a blatantly political diatribe from CNN, and run with it as if it actually meant something.


Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Let me venture a guess: you get your news from FOX news?!?

Yes, what CNN said may be misconstrued as slanderous, but that's the nature of media!

This isn't a pardon so much as a loophole. This administration took action to avoid prosecution by creating a small little by-law. The only difference between terrorist and freedom-fighter is whether or not the government backs them.

Now if you want a blatently political diatribe, I would point you towards this music video. The band is Otep, the song is War Head. Off topic a bit but this is just for you, OldMedic:

YouTube Link



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 12:36 PM by Marcus Calpurnius


Oh, here we go again. Lots of baseless accusations that will never go anywhere, because Bush isn't a war crimminal and he didn't perpetrate any crimes. Those of you who think he did live in a fantasy land

On another note, Just replace Bush with Obama in this thread and consider the responses. so many of you are total hypocrites.


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The fact that 9/11 was, at least partly, an inside job,


Its nowhere near a fact! Thats exactly what I'm talking about! Some of you are so wrapped up in lies and conspiracies, that you have completely left the real world.

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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 12:45 PM by snowen20


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Well what can we say about that?
Looks like you’ve made up your mind.
Thank you.

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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 12:45 PM by Level X


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***** THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION EXIT STRATEGY *****

1. Create a financial 911 to distract the American people.

2. Close Guantanamo Bay to hide and destroy all evidence. (funny how America hates Cuba but are loving enough to have a prison there)

3. Bush and Cheney lower gas prices to dupe the masses one last time before his late night get away. Cheney - "Americans aren't smart enough to think of our blunders while fillin their gas tanks."

4. Rice - "Play dumb as a horse apple as the American morons are all aglow over the first black president." Mean while... She, Cheney, and Bush are scrubbing the place down with republican Bleach.

5. Rebublicans - "Be on your best behavior... Bushy boy you're almost out of office... a few more days and we'll have pulled off a reversed Divinci Code."

6 Bush - "Make sure Condi stays a unic and never marries... cause we don't want no post administration gap toothed pillow talk with no blabber mouthed Mandingo."

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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 01:05 PM by Jezus


Originally posted by ZindoDoone
He has managed to outsmart all of you who hate him and I bet he's smiling ear to ear...if any if this thats published is true!!!LOL


Zindo


Yah...just like Hitler "tricked" the Jews into the shower...

Atrocities are [SNIP] hilarious.

Originally posted by Marcus Calpurnius

The fact that 9/11 was, at least partly, an inside job,


Its nowhere near a fact! Thats exactly what I'm talking about! Some of you are so wrapped up in lies and conspiracies, that you have completely left the real world.




I guess in this "real" world you live in you can trust your leaders right?

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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 01:16 PM by rapinbatsisaltherage


This administration just doesn’t give a damn, and they know the system probably will never hold them accountable for their actions. Bush should (at the very least) be held accountable for his involvement with the Telecomm Giants, but it appears that ship has sailed.



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 01:33 PM by unnamedninja


As much as I hate bush, I just realized something. The report says at the time the geneva convention didn't apply to terrorists. So we are kind of having our cake and eating it, if we want him to swing for a retroactive crime, but dont want him to make retroactive legislation to save himself.



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 01:41 PM by pizzaguy


THE REPORT IS DATED SEPTEMBER 7TH 2007. DID IT GO THRU OR ARE WE ALL BARKING MAD ABOUT NOTHING? HELLO???? ANYONE ????


PG



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 01:42 PM by TKainZero


Is this for real???


President ussally wait until the LAST day in office to Pardon people



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 01:51 PM by djpaec


Japanese Water Boarding

Twenty-one years earlier, in 1947, the United States charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for carrying out another form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian. The subject was strapped on a stretcher that was tilted so that his feet were in the air and head near the floor, and small amounts of water were poured over his face, leaving him gasping for air until he agreed to talk.


Why do you think they got of good 'ol Alberto Gonzalez was thrown under the bus, it wasn't just cause of the whole politization of the Justice department. He wrote a memo back in 2002. As you'll read the Secretary of State's office, Colin Powell, was against this. Because it was obvious they were looking for loopholes for torture.
lawofwar.org...

"The nature of [a "war" against terrorism] places a high premium on ...factors such as the ability to quickly obtain information from captured terrorists and their sponsors ... and the need to try terrorists for war crimes... [t]his new paradigm renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners..."


Geneva Conventions.
en.wikipedia.org...

It describes minimal protections which must be adhered to by all individuals within a signatory's territory during an armed conflict not of an international character (regardless of citizenship or lack thereof): Noncombatants, combatants who have laid down their arms, and combatants who are hors de combat (out of the fight) due to wounds, detention, or any other cause shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, including prohibition of outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment. The passing of sentences must also be pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.


This is why there are those blacksites we send the T words off too. Now if stuff like this goes on at Guantanamo Bay, I believe the supreme court said since it was our land because it was our base, whether we rented it or not.


Now the only thing that gets me with the inhumane treatment that went on in Iraq. Is they prosecuted from the bottom, as opposed to investigation happening. And prosecuting those that gave these orders, like what they did to the Germans in World War 2. Which, if you do you research, looks like it came from the Executive branch and at least from the DOD and DOJ.

Also to the person that said this falls on democrats, old medic I believe, if you watched the video you would know this video is from 2006. And if you didn't pay attention to politics or didn't know Republicans had congress' power from 1994-2006. Now I don't know if this part of the legislation was passed, BUT, why would Bush sign a law/act that reverses this with democrats in power?

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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 04:24 PM by HankMcCoy


Don't you have to be guilty of a crime to be pardoned of said crime?

Is Bush admitting guilt?



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 04:46 PM by Shocka


Probably because mostly everything he did is going to be leaked or come out after Obama's inaugurated. There's people that worked in his administration who already have interviews lined up for that same day. We're going to hear a lot of #ed up stuff.



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 04:57 PM by TRAVELS


reply to post by arcnaver



You're missing the point mate, he's a puppet, nothing more...yes he's the dumbest ape on the planet, no he did not orchestrate 9/11...those that did made him sit in a classroom reading a story about a goat when it happened. Kind of an inside joke I'd imagine...he's the monkey,not the organ-grinder...

And as for the topic, this happened over a year ago didn't it? Why talk about it now? You already let this one slip through your fingers America, nice one...



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 05:11 PM by henry paul


Check this book out: The 35 Articles of Impeachment and the Case for Prosecuting George W. Bush

heres the link:

feralhouse.com...


there is also a FREE downloadable version of the book on the website.


Its incredibly screwed if we let Bush AND Cheney get away with this stuff. Its un-pardonable....

READ THIS BOOK!

Henry



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 05:22 PM by reticledc


Funny how the videos are not working anymore.

Bush deserves nothing!

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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 05:26 PM by MAINTAL


Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Impeachment should be pursued immediately! In order for justice to prevail, all these crooks should be thrown into JAIL! cs


I don't know why anyone is surprised at this. Nixon managed to pull it off why wouldn't dubya. Impeachment wouldn't matter now.

The Democrats never gave a hoot and they had their big chance to get the impeachment process back in 2006 but that wasn't gonna happen with this guy being the Democrats Golden opportunity.

They told Kucinich and Wexler to table the lawsuits and quit rattling chains. Let this President give the American People the full measure of this Bush Fatigue,, then just before he leaves office they would be instrumental in the very last nail in this coffin and one that would crush the neocons reign as the rulling party beating them down as to within an inch of their life as a viable political party.

All they had to do to usher in their longtime goal of converting this contry to socialism is have a dynamic young speaker, it didn't really matter what else he was as long as he was eloquent and said what the American people would be so desperate to hear that the moment Obama said the magic word "Change" people fell to their knees in gullible admiration. A guy with a strong backround in this new conversion would need to crush the current economy to such a drastic degree that nationalizing the economy would be the credit of co-conspirators like Barney Frank and Franklin Raines but the blame for the economy would go to Bush and the Republican party.

All in all, I'd say the democrats would be happy just having Bush leave the most tragedy prone President in history with the most pathetic legacy in Presidential history. I sometimes wonder how he feels knowing that.








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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 05:28 PM by djpaec


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Yeah all he has to do is Pardon everyone in his admnistration. Then step down, Chenney gets sworn in and pardons Bush.



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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 06:15 PM by Lucid Lunacy


Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Don't you have to be guilty of a crime to be pardoned of said crime?

Is Bush admitting guilt?


That's exactly what this is

This alone should dispel the doubt on said conspiracies.



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