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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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So what you are saying is that factories all over the country are pumping dangerous levels of Barium!now now that's a HUGE conspiracy!

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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 10:58 AM
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Its meat tenderizer for the ETs. But don't worry, they're going to eat the fat ones first!



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 10:59 AM
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All I can say is wow. So you are telling me that a unique and identicle chemical signature collected both in France and Texas after a chemtrail exposed day does not hold any value or significance?

And somehow you link these chemicals collected and tested to somehow coming from plastic manufacturing plants in both France and Texas? Do you even see how crazy that sounds, holy cow!

That sounds even more ludicris than the chemtrail theory itself.

And "wind" no - wind is not going to prolong the amount of time a regular contrail stays in the sky, if anything it would force the water vapor or ice crystals to thin out and dissipate faster, so that is not possible or realistic.

Its just like the NASA ice debris field explaination when explaining moving objects that actually change direction in the STS video/film - its just rediculous!

The public is ready - why don't these people just fess up and tell the truth for a change. It would help humanity a great deal.

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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Meteorologist
 


I don't read every single post ... that's why I asked you to reference it.. off coarse that is really stupid..


I don't read every single post either, but I at least try to read the actual topic... the first post... you know...



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Meteorologist
 


So what you are saying is that factories all over the country are pumping how dangerous levels of Barium!now that's a HUGE conspiracy!



Yes, do some 10-second research on Barium here
en.wikipedia.org...

And you will see that it's used extensively in the making of Rubber (rubber factories) and it is also used to make the green color in fireworks.

Contrails might not be putting Barium into the air, but you better watch out for the government's evil firework displays.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
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One thing is I know for a FACT they were never around when I was younger, and have only really noticed them in the last few years... what's up with that? I mean don't you want to know why they are so visible now? I know I do.

wZn

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Because you are aware of them now. So you look for them more. When you were younger you had no reason to have these thoughts and ideas. Now that someone has planted the seed you are watching more closely to the flower as it grows.

For instance have you ever bought a new car. I know every time I buy a car I think to myself I never see this car around so I will be unique in having it. Then days and weeks later I start noticing more people driving the same style of car. Its because before I had the car I had no reason to notice the car even though they were all around me. Its a mental thing. I remember seeing chem trails from a very young age. I remember laying in the grass with my brothers and sisters watching the clouds and chem trails during the summers. Of course this was before video games were really popular and kids still went outside and played.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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buddy.... i don't see a post with that ... links aren't posts.. there is a difference..



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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so basically we have 3 times the epa max level coming out of rubber factories and fireworks year round and nationwide? here is the kicker Can you prove that came from factories and not chem spraying? No you can't and what a coincidence that barium is collected after the planes spraying pass...



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:09 AM
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Here's a plane i filmed where its trail just suddenly stops then starts a few times..

s292.photobucket.com...



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by arizonascott
reply to post by Meteorologist
 


All I can say is wow. So you are telling me that a unique and identicle chemical signature collected both in France and Texas after a chemtrail exposed day does not hold any value or significance?



Where is the connection? Just because in both cases there was contrails in the sky, that is what you are going off of?



What you are saying is not any different at all than saying that because the grass was green in both places, that must be the reason barium was found there.






Originally posted by arizonascott
And "wind" no - wind is not going to prolong the amount of time a regular contrail stays in the sky, if anything it would force the water vapor or ice crystals to thin out and dissipate faster, so that is not possible or realistic.


Read more carefully, I never said anything of the sort that wind prolongs the duration of contrails. I said it spreads them out for it's no longer a thin trail.

And no, them being spread out won't make them dissipate any faster or slower, that is more reliant on the saturation of the air (humidity in layman's terms) compared to the temperature, called the Dew Point Depression (measured by T-Td).







Originally posted by arizonascott
Its just like the NASA ice debris field explaination when explaining moving objects that actually change direction in the STS video/film - its just rediculous!


I'm not an astronaut, I'm a meteorologist.




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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Meteorologist
 


buddy.... i don't see a post with that ... links aren't posts.. there is a difference..


... The whole point of this thread was the link with photos....



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Meteorologist

Originally posted by arizonascott
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All I can say is wow. So you are telling me that a unique and identicle chemical signature collected both in France and Texas after a chemtrail exposed day does not hold any value or significance?



Where is the connection? Just because in both cases there was contrails in the sky, that is what you are going off of?



What you are saying is not any different at all than saying that because the grass was green in both places, that must be the reason barium was found there.






Originally posted by arizonascott
And "wind" no - wind is not going to prolong the amount of time a regular contrail stays in the sky, if anything it would force the water vapor or ice crystals to thin out and dissipate faster, so that is not possible or realistic.


Read more carefully, I never said anything of the sort that wind prolongs the duration of contrails. I said it spreads them out for it's no longer a thin trail.

And no, them being spread out won't make them dissipate any faster or slower, that is more reliant on the saturation of the air (humidity in layman's terms) compared to the temperature, called the Dew Point Depression (measured by T-Td).







Originally posted by arizonascott
Its just like the NASA ice debris field explaination when explaining moving objects that actually change direction in the STS video/film - its just rediculous!


I'm not an astronaut, I'm a meteorologist.




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Since you are claiming to have credentials here on ATS then post your name
and your position with entity ...



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by CosmicTraveler
Here's a plane i filmed where its trail just suddenly stops then starts a few times..

s292.photobucket.com...


That's because the plane entered an air parcel (think like how certain spots of a pool are warmer where someone peed) that didn't have the right conditions to make contrails.

It's as simple as that.


The air is not uniform and the same above us everywhere. Thank goodness it's not, or there would be no wind or weather patterns, and it would be the same temperature everywhere on the earth! That would be boring.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:14 AM
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Thanks again to Truthtellist for all the links.

It's clear to see that the side of this debate which defends contrails are real has more than a leg to stand on, while the debunker ad hoc skeptics, with a few ignorant loudmouths mixed in, don't have anything resembling a solid position in this debate. Indeed, were it not for the persistance of authority figures, like media, scientists and even forums moderators, in keeping the debate open it would have sunk into the group mind already that we are being sprayed. Just more toxicity for your daily diet folks, get used to it, you're being ruled by genocidal maniacs. As has been the case through most of history, i don't get why it's so hard to understand and believe. Just look up more often.

The fact that someone signed in under the name "meteorologist" with the hope of gaining an aura of respectability shows just how pointless the other side of the debate is, just how dishonest and manipulative the mindset is amongst the people who are literally trying to hide the sky. You are pathetic and you disgust me, and I am a loving person that rarely stoops to such low frequency feelings. My guess is you're feeding on them right now like maggots.

Anyways, sorry for the nastiness. As for what these things are for, my guess is they do various things, but the whole principle is a sort of chemical population control mixed in with a sort of airborne data display matrix, a sort of giant holographic screen. On one hand these things intoxicate us, soon I expect they will show us projected lights in the sky so as to bring in the false apocalypse/alien invasion scenario project bluebeam is rumoured to be about. Naturally I am extrapolating all this from the existance of chemtrails, but it makes sense when you consider the "enemy". Ie, the (a)spiritual decendents from the conmen priests of olden times. The fear based control freaks that manipulate the group mind in the name of their own egos. This sort of thing is right down their ally. It's what Von Braun warned us about, more or less, and I can see it coming all around me, right down to how the media is treating the UFO scene now, in what seems to be some sort of build up. It also fits with the increased authoritarism and political and economical consolidation, as these people try and destroy the middle class of the western world, pushing us back into feudalism, serfdom and religious mind enslavement. And I repeat, as has been the case through most of recorded history. It's all chemtrails and lies, and soon lights in the sky. Don't fall for it. Stephenville was probably something along these lines, as might have been pheonix. Just New Age alien religion seeds imho.

In the words of Bob Marley: "Babylon slave system is the vampire..." What is the Babylon slave system? it's the political science of opression, the techniques of using people as cattle, the policy of lies, intoxication, culling, war and theft. It's the City of London, It's Washington DC, It's The Vatican, Rome. It's your very culture.

Culture is not your friend. Terrence Mckenna. Wake up. And do not be scared, This is all just a ride... Bill Hicks

If anyone reading this is anyhow envolved in making these airborne abominations I want two things out of you. First, that you go public, you owe humanity that much. Second, that you stop being envolved.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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since you are claiming to be a meteorologist you should post your name and credentials.. and position of work. If you will not then stop posting with the claim of you being a meteorologist..



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by thefreepatriot

Since you are claiming to have credentials here on ATS then post your name
and your position with entity ...


I don't think that's important, and it's pretty low of you to attack my character/credentials (called an ad-hominem attack) rather than focusing on the issues.


I'm not going to post my name, location, or anything of the sort on the internet, especially on a place that is apparently inhabited by some pretty crazy people. But I will say that my background is serving in the US Air Force as a meteorologist (it's kind of important for our pilots to know where to fly and when to fly, you know, lol) and also graduating with a master's degree in meteorology from Syracuse University in Central New York. I now work as a part-time instructor at a local community college.

That's all I'm going to really say.

But my credentials don't matter, really this is basic knowledge of how the atmosphere and air works, and is something that most people should be learning in high school, so you don't even really need a college degree to know this stuff.




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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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You're an idiot. Planes dump fuel all the time? Under what conditions? I suppose this is a worldwide phenomena and explains the nose dive airline business. I guess the frequency of all this jet fuel dumping is on par with all the imminent catastrophes of airline flight (rarely occurrs) which are highly underreported. You sir, need not be here at ATS. Imagine upwards of 2000 gallons or more of precious fuel being dumped like ordinary water. You're a fool and in no way shape or form have any affiliation to aeronautics and aviation. I have seen with another famiy member a plane deliberately turning off and on its fog machine and flying in patterns. This is right here in southern california on a hot beautiful day. Bear in mind there is little humidity and plenty of REAL airlines to watch NOT creating chemtrails thanx to 3 major airports closeby. They are John Wayne (orange county) LAX (los angeles) and Ontario (san bernardino). There was even complaints around the Big Bear area of this rust colored particulate matter from these chemtrail planes... this made it to the news. This was about a year or two ago and this phenomenon was directly responsible for many types of anaphylactic reactions. This warrants a serious examination as do most of the government's actions. Dirty deeds with evil agendas are not going to be broadcasted. You'd be hard pressed to expose the responsible party. Anyway, back to you, you jackass. I'm not done ripping you to shreds. Please supply some photos of aerial jet fuel dumping. I dare you! g'head, c'mon... lemme see em, not a one! !!! Thats what i thought... you jackass!














posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:26 AM
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this answer was expected
these are not ad hominem attacks........ If you are so worried about identity then give it to one of the mods.. if not STOP MAKING CLAIMS of being a meteorologist.. that is all.. I am not attacking you in any way shape or form I am merely asking you to back up your claim of being meteorologist..If you will not, cannot do this.. then STOP saying you are a meteorologist.



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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:30 AM
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they DO spray at night. i've seen it.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 11:30 AM
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Not too long ago someone posted a thread about the German government admitting to spraying in the air, i'll see if I can find it, ever since that thread i started believing.

Edit: found it, Germany becomes First Country to admit Chemtrails Operation


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