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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Anybody that says "chemtrails" are real, is uneducated in several areas of study. As a former pilot who studied meteorology for several years I can honestly chalk this one up to complete ignorance. Go ahead, tell me how wrong I am and insist that they are real...It provides me with endless laughter when the uneducated get defensive about things they have ZERO knowledge (or education) about. Just because one looks into the sky, and sees something "odd", doesn't mean they're an "expert" on these phenomena!

The belief in chemtrails stems from ignorance about the following subjects:

Meteorology
Aviation
(SIMPLE!!) Science (condensation)

I have studied these subjects for over the last 30 years and there is absolutely NO DOUBT that "chemtrails" are nothing more than "persistent contrails".

Go ahead, insist I'm wrong...no skin off my nose! My actual education and subsequent understanding of the FACTS allow me to be 100% secure in my stance. You would be doing yourself a HUGE favor by actually learning something about this subject ( NOT ON YOUTUBE!!!) and understanding how misguided paranoia results in the belief of the absurd.

Chemtrails......Hilarious!!!!


And all the supposed anomalies (gaps in trails, strange flight patterns, differences in trails at supposedly the same altitude) are ALL explained with actual KNOWLEDGE on the subject. Conspiracy nuts are just not happy unless they have something to speculate about based on a total lack of education on a particular subject.
Pathetic.

Thisguy is government dis info agent. Any time you hear folks like this trying to dispell proven clinical science by attacking the level of intelligence of the person considering any plausable truth, beware, this is exactly how one aspect of MK ultra, and moking bird programs worked.

This is one of the better threads on this subject and I am thankful to many people on here that have provided so many links and information sources.

However - I really just do not know what to believe, there is information that pulls strongly towards that there is a real issue with something "funny" going on, and equally there is a rational viewpoint that pulls equally strongly that there is nothing "funny" going on.

I just wish we had some hard tangible proof one way or another. I am sure that spraying is done for weather modifications, also for war games (covering manoeuvres etc).

A simple "library" of tangible evidence collected, and any analysis by reputable labs etc would help. -
In the mean time I remain cautiously sceptical and suspicious at the same time !

Dave, and Zeph....as an outsider looking upon your last few posts it SEEMS to me that you two actually agree, and just don't realize it!!

I realize that we are now on page "blah, blah, blah" of this thread (I'm not computer-savvy enough to see where, now that I've decided to opine) but I CAN say this: AND I have said it before, passenger commercial jets are NOT 'spraying' any alleged 'chemtrails'...!!!

Will try one last time to dispel this notion....

I will, as a former Airline Pilot, explain how it works.

Every Airline must desiginate each airplane with its OEW (Operating Empty Weight).

((The particular terms may vary, but the principles remain the same))

The 'OEW' of, say, a B-737 is determined by actually weighing the real airplane....three scales, one for the nosegear and two for each main gear...and this is calculated as the 'basic' empty weight.

"Empty Weight" is an aviation term to describe the initial condition of an airplane (or 'aircraft') before the weight of fuel and payload have been added.

The 'OEW' in the Airline BIZ means....the actual airplane HAS been weighed, THEN the estimated weights of the required crew (in the case of a B-737, two pilots, estimated at 170 lbs each, and their equipment, which has NO SPECIFIC weight allotment) AND the required Cabin Attendants, which ber USA Federal Regs require at LEAST one F/A for every 50 passengers. These Regulations are further enhanced by the number of Exits on the Passenger jet, irrespective of the number of seats....but these rules are further complicated by FAR Regulations...meaning, if you own your OWN JET, you may operate under FAR Part 135....but, of course, all Airlines operate under FAR Part 121....but it gets even MORE complicated, and I have not the time, here, to explain.

Back to the point....as I've said, no airliner can be 'dispatched' without first meeting strict criteria. Maybe I forgot to mention that bit, but it is true, and no one will say that I'm wrong about that.

The 'strict criteria' I refer to are: A proper 'Weight and Balance', which, to non-aviation types, simply means....all of the paperwork must be spot-on, or else we don't take-off!!!!

To summarize: The OEW is the starting point (it is the basic weight of the empty airplane, plus CREW, plus potable water, plus all catering needs, on average...)

So, OEW PLUS the ACTUAL fuel load (again, by weight....you see, we KNOW the Flight Plan, and how much fuel we will need....and we guage our fuel by pounds, in the USA...some countries use Kgs, of course....but that's up to the airlines that BUY the airplanes to equip their machines with guages that their pilots are familiar with...and, let me tell you, pilots are smart enough to get familiar...we're pretty fart smuckers!!!

(HINT....when we monitor the fuel burned by our engines, we don't use MPG!!! It is 'pounds per hour'.)

(Second HINT....Jet Fuel weighs, on average, about 6.7 pounds per gallon. This 'weight' depends on temperature, so is an average for 'Jet-A')

(Third HINT....Water weighs a bit more....about 7.5 pounds per gallon.)

Nothing that I have written will be shown to be untrue....I have provided a lot of information in order to, hopefully, educate some who happen to read
this thread and to, perhaps, inspire some aspiring pilots....or even astronauts.

I may be too old to wish to go into space....doesn't mean a new generation can't dream!!!!

Originally posted by dave420

Chemtrails are of course overly complicated and impossible. How on earth is anyone spraying chemicals at tens of thousands of feet going to ensure where they land? There are far more accurate, stealthy, cost-effective ways to pollute specific areas with chemicals. It's like the plot of a bad James Bond film.

And more to the point Dave (in my opinion anyway) is why would they make these chemtrails look and behave identical to normal contrails and only produce them when atmospheric conditions dictate that normal contrails should form and persist?

It would be easy to spray chemtrails that are invisible from the ground. It is many magnitudes more difficult to spray chemtrails that masquerade as contrails so well that even the worlds leading experts in contrails are fooled.

Unless, of course, what you see in the sky are only contrails after all? Nah, but that's too obvious innit