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Originally posted by MAINTAL
You can disagree all you want and even your Bible verse proves my point. That God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so the he or she who believeth on him shall have everlasting life and shall not perish.
Guess who perish's? Vengeance is mine saith the lord and casts the sinner into the lake of fire. The sinner ends up there, not the sin and your statement the sinner condemns himself for not believing has nothing to do with whether or not God hates the sinner.
God Judges the sinner pal, their is no two ways about it.
[edit on 14-11-2008 by MAINTAL]
Originally posted by Annee
Adult Consent - Do no harm to another.
Originally posted by darkelf
Originally posted by MAINTAL
You can disagree all you want and even your Bible verse proves my point. That God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so the he or she who believeth on him shall have everlasting life and shall not perish.
Guess who perish's? Vengeance is mine saith the lord and casts the sinner into the lake of fire. The sinner ends up there, not the sin and your statement the sinner condemns himself for not believing has nothing to do with whether or not God hates the sinner.
God Judges the sinner pal, their is no two ways about it.
[edit on 14-11-2008 by MAINTAL]
Yes God judges all of us. He also forgives those who repent. The fact that He tells us He will forgive us leads me to believe that it is our decision to be condemned.
If He hated the sinner none of us would have a chance. We are all sinners. If we accept Christ, God does not condemn us but still holds us accountable for our sin. We are all condemned.
Only God can see if our sins are covered by the blood of Christ. If they are, then we are no longer condemned but are saved through God's mercy. It is still each person's own decision to either accept Christ and live for Him or to live for ourselves.
Originally posted by Supercertari
Originally posted by Annee
Adult Consent - Do no harm to another.
Having homosexual attractions does not harm anyone, acting on them harms the self and the other. The entire programme of "equality" promoted by gay activism in recent decades does harm to untold people who are led to believe "Oh, so it is an ok option" and engage in a lifestyle which is harmful to them and others in turn.
Recent activism also harms society by seeking to legally penalize others who do not accept this lifestyle when, as civil servants, photographers, hotel/guest house owners, they are leagally obliged to enable the immoral act or loose their jobs/money.
Moral relativism shows it's ugly and intolerant face in this issue, "moral relativism is good (as long as its ours)" Whereas, of course, truth cannot be relative, Truth is Truth or it's just opinion.
Originally posted by Supercertari
Originally posted by Annee
Adult Consent - Do no harm to another.
Having homosexual attractions does not harm anyone, acting on them harms the self and the other.
Originally posted by Annee
I have never been harmed by a person being gay. Your fear is showing.
Originally posted by panda319
I read somewhere that the homosexual portion was a mistranslation also.
Originally posted by Supercertari
Originally posted by Annee
I have never been harmed by a person being gay. Your fear is showing.
With all duie respect might I enquire if you read the rest of this post and my previous contribution here?
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Originally posted by Annee
Gays are born as God made them. He would not have made them gay and expect them to pretend to be something else.
Perhaps Gods real intent - in wiring some humans differently - like making some humans with dark skin - is acceptance - understanding - love - and tolerance from people such as your self.