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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 01:06 AM
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What about my consent?

I'm not giving my consent to selected aberrant behavior. Remember, this is all genetic, a homicidal pattern borne through the millennia, my feelings can't be helped, they aren't my fault, and I have just as much right to flout my feelings and aberrant behavior as much as anyone else, right?

Remember, there's no right and wrong. No choice, no right or wrong. No moral compass, no right or wrong.




posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
The Gay Community says they were born gay.

The overwhelming majority of non-Christian heterosexual believe homosexuals are born this way.

It may or may not be genetic. But it is 'natural', in that it was produced by nature. 30 million plus people saying it is so does indeed constitute as evidence by the way. * evidence being different then proof*


every single gay person i know, can trace some sort of trauma in their life. and this includes me.

but lets says homosexuality is something we are born with, does that mean that god made us that way?

no.

god doesnt make alcoholics. he doesnt make diabetics. he doesnt make children born blind.

illustrate. chernobyl, god didnt make those babies horribly deformed, man did.

man is "imperfect". that means we do not do what we were designed to do, namely love god and take care of his earth.

the bible says very clearly on several occasions that this is satan's world. hence we do not receive the protection from god that we would get if we were perfect.

so to say that god "makes" homosexuals would be inaccurate. it would be like saying god creates murderers.

a predisposition to something doesnt mean that you should act on it too.

but now does this mean that christians should "hate" homosexuals? in a way it does and in a way it doesnt.

the bible says throughout that god abhors the wicked one. what does it mean to be wicked?

prov 21:[10] The soul of the wicked desireth evil: his neighbour findeth no favour in his eyes.

a wicked person is a person who wants to do wickedness. so yes if god hates such a person then we should too.

however, how do we know that god hates a person? how do we know if a person is wicked or just misguided? the fact is we dont.

that why jesus said to love your enemies. jesus can read hearts. he will judge them with much better standards than we ever could. jesus is telling us to avoid wickedness, but to avoid judging.

think of the example of paul. he harassed the congregation and even partook in killing stephen, yet he was eventually accepted.

we cant judge because we dont know all the factors in a persons life.

so we love the homosexual, but we will not partake in any activities or even encourage the homosexual to persist in his lifestyle.

btw, going to a gay pride parade thumping a bible saying they are all going to hell is NOT loving.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by crmanager

And the fact you stated you HATE heterosexuals is far from normal or natural.


Go back and read that post
You might have missed a part.

And in case any one else interpreted it similarly: I hate no one. I hate no sexual orientation. I hope at least some understand my point in that post.

My point: illustrating the 'hate the sin but not the sinner' in a different, more hetero light.

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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by racegunz
If you don't believe in the Bibles divine authorship, and you are not a Christian why do you care what we think? If there's no God you have nothing to worry about, get over it. Why justify yourself to others?

I'm not justifying myself to anyone, that's got nothing to do with anything I said.


Why do you care what others think or do you just get off shoving your lifestyle in the faces of those that find it wrong or sinful.

Lifestyle? If your getting at atheism, I'm not putting it in anyone's face, I'm talking about the bible, not God. If you are talking about Homosexuality then well FYI I'm not gay.


You are just causing problems so you can play victim wahhhhh!!!! The Christians hate me WAAAAHHHH!!!!!

Wow, that's a lot of supposition. I was on here to talk about the points the OP brought up, then you said that the bible was Gods work, so I felt I should correct you. We're not here to offend or upset anyone, but we want to be truthful and accurate.

I'm here denying ignorance, so if you don't like that then you have a problem with the site not me.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 03:57 AM
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Whether or not God made them that way or not, it's not something they can do anything about, or want to do anything about (in most cases). It's part of who they are, just as the effects of any trauma are part of us.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Good Wolf
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Whether or not God made them that way or not, it's not something they can do anything about, or want to do anything about (in most cases). It's part of who they are, just as the effects of any trauma are part of us.


I like how you stated this. Honestly, if you think about it, I'm sure that gay men COULD have sex with women, and that Lesbians COULD get it from a guy...

And you COULD enjoy a Hot Coffee Enema, and you COULD stick your giblets in a meat grinder and pretend to like it, and you COULD punch yourself in the face until you had a concussion.

Maybe they have the CHOICE of whether or not they can pretend to be straight and it is just disgusting? I mean, I'm sure there's someone who likes Brussel sprouts, but people don't go about saying "Liking Hamburgers is a CHOICE! They should Choose Brussel Sprouts!"

Or, you know. Eating a crap sandwich.

Just saying.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 06:09 AM
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here's my two cents.Prostitution is a sin just as bad as homosexuality.The punishment for prostitution was stoning till death.Yet Jesus said let the one without sin cast the first stone.Most so called christians fail to realise there exhists a big difference between the old and new testiments.When Jesus came
he brought love as the new commandment.The old testiment was written for the jews and is full of hate as the jews were gods chosen people to be against the jews was to be against god.When Jesus came all people became gods chosen people and they were to love each other.
I think the main problem here is so called christians do not read thier bible and think about it.It's much easier to listen to some preacher tell them what it means.What they ignore is the warnings of false profits.It seems to me a lot of these preachers turn to the old testiment when they need to do some hating.
This is how they make money.It works on the same principle as Bush used to get the american people to support the Iraq war.Stir them up until they are no longer thinking.Most of them will then blindly follow.
As far as I can see a christian should ignore homosexuality.Do not judge that you may not be judged.A christian should think for himself am I a christian or am I a jew?If I am a christian how does that differ?Since christians are not bound by jewish law they should be very careful what they take from the old testiment.I believe the correct action would be to
love but not engage in sexual activitys with homosexuals or with women for that matter unless she is your wife.
I find it rather interesting that these preachers that like to stirup thier congregations for fun and profit completely ignore the only time Jesus got violent.Jesus began his 3 1/2 year ministry in Jerusalem by driving the corrupt moneychangers from the Temple. He also ended His ministry by attacking the same thieves.Why is it that these self serving,self appointed
money grubbers do not stir thier congregations up over the federal reserve bank?The one time Jesus used force they ignore.Must be it's not profitable enough.
I do not claim to be a christian.I do try to follow Christs teachings as I see them.If the bible is the word of god and I do have my doubts.The books of the bible are said to have been written by men inspired by god.However men also decided which books would be included and which would not a long time after they were written.
In the end I will love my fellow man and let god judge him and that includes the poor dupes that are out there throwing stones as quickly as they can pick them up.If you believe the bible to be the word of god ask what is god saying to you and don't worry about what he says to some preacher.If the bible is the word of god it was written for you not for some self appointed preachers profitable venture.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 06:13 AM
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God don't hate the sinners , but God can't be near sin ; so anyone who practice sin can coexist with God that's why he send his son jesus to open a path to him ; only that way we can coexist with God.
Nobody is trying to judge anyone is just the word of God( the bible) that make those statements and happens that we believed his word; because these days anything goes don't mean that everything is good ( a way of life ) very popular saying lately is just destroying our society.
Genetics?? good excuse to do whatever we want to do; my friend!! is a spiritual world out there and when you play with the Dark side those are the consecuenses to pay for all the generations to come to the ones who play with the Dark side.
only through jesus we can be free of all this spiritual beings (demons) that make us do all this things that God can't be near too; Not because we are saints because we are not, but because of jesus we are.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 06:44 AM
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I'm a Christian, I don't hate homosexuals. I don't hate "gay-bashers" either. I hate the sin of homosexuality and I hate the sin of "gay-bashing" and I am utterly repelled by "gay-bashing" that takes place in the name of Jesus by people who have no idea who He is, or who they are for that matter.

There may be a genetic predisposition to homosexual activity, there are genetic predispositions to many kinds of immoral behaviour, we do live in a broken world after all. The world is completed and perfected through the grace of God, a grace available to the promiscuous heterosexual, the slothful, the jealous and the homosexual alike.

I do not base my judgement that homosexual acts are immoral on Scripture alone, indeed it is not my judgement. As a Catholic I am pleased to also have reference to the Natural Law, Tradition and the Magesterium of the Church. I would not be so foolish as to imagine I can know all the answers on my own, I am a member of a Church which enables me to share in the collective understanding of the moral law discerned through Natural Law, Tradition and Revelation and maintained by the magesterium.

Homosexual activity offends Natural Law and, thus, the Creator. It corrupts the purpose of the organs of procreation. For the member who posited that Christians don't object to oral sex and anal sex among heterosexuals I can tell you that we do. The design of the female and male sex organs makes them compatible, a man's sex organ and an anal sphincter are not designed with the same compatibility - hence the need for lubricants. Neither end of the alimentary canal is designed for procreation. Natural Law, the law of nature, agree on this as does Revelation and Tradition. Homesxual behaviour among animals does not justify it among humans, or else let us start to justify killing the weak and frail - we are more than animals.

This sounds harsh, what is more harsh is the delusion that it is acceptable, which the current "gay rights" movement has fostered in recent decades and the efforts of governments to equalize the status of homosexual and heterosexual activity. These campaigns and the illusion that "it's ok" are unjust and obstacles to grace which deprive the individual of even considering and acknowledging their need for grace to overcome that which is not insurmountable.

Rather than hate those predisposed to homosexual activity they should command our compassion and assistance in facilitating their openness to grace to enjoy full lives according to the design of the Creator. Not from a perspective of superiority as all members of the human race should assist one another in being open to the graces they require to overcome that to which they are predisposed. We are, after all, all sinners - homosexually inclined people are not more, or less, sinful than me. Christ died for all, His entire sacrifice was for the totality of humanity and each person, He didn't do an "extra hour" on the cross for gays because they needed it more, He was there for us all as one.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 07:43 AM
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You have a misguided understanding of genetics.
You're belief system determines much of what shapes your genetics.
Perhaps your right and Aliens/Fallen Angels are the one tampering with our DNA and making you a homo(no offense intended).
That don't make it natural.
That don't make it right.
Let's see penis into dirty poopy area.. yea that's natural pfffff YEA RIGHT.
What a joke and a waste of your time. If you don't feed that femine side it will die and your DNA will respond to your belief system.
Good luck on that btw.
And I am a follower of Christ and I don't hate anyone. I make light of it a little but really I think the act is gross. I certainly find that most gays are.. well very smart(is that stereotyping?Oh well I don't believe in being PC anyone that is common ground I share with most Christians). I even find gays to generally have MONEY too ! LOL What up with that? Intellect.
Does it sound like I hate gays to you? No and it's because I don't. Stop spreading lies please. Your just spreading hate just like some of the more ignorant people that actually do hate. But for the most part your safe. Christians don't hate YOU.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 07:50 AM
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Text they choose to be gay, i choose to be hetrosexual
My son has said he did not choose to be "gay" he just always was.

You're a real piece of work and you don't know shi_. Your statement is really ignorant and it's ignorant, arrogant and pompous statements like yours that make this world such a hateful place because homosexuality is far more then choosing ones sexual oriention.


TextA DNA transplant made these male fruit flies turn away from females. What does that say about the origins of homosexuality?

BY LARRY THOMPSON/BETHESDA

Fruit flies are among the most sexually proficient creatures on earth. Their ability to produce a new generation in two weeks has made them the darlings of genetics researchers for nearly a century. Put a male fruit fly into a bottle with a female, and he doesn't waste any time before getting down to business.

So it's a bit bewildering to watch the behavior of certain fruit flies at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland. There, in the laboratories of biologists Ward Odenwald and Shang-Ding Zhang, strange things are happening inside the gallon-size culture jars. In some experiments, the female flies are cowering in groups at the top and bottom of the jars. The males, meanwhile, are having a party--no, an orgy -- among themselves.

With a frenzy usually reserved for chasing females, the males link up end-to-end in big circles or in long, winding rows that look like winged conga lines. As the buzz of the characteristic fruit fly "love song" fills the air, the males repeatedly lurch forward and rub genitals with the next ones in line. What's going on? Without a wink or a chuckle, Odenwald claims that these male fruit flies are gay -- and that he and Zhang made them that way.

The scientists say they transplanted a single gene into the flies that caused them to display homosexual behavior. And that's very interesting, they assert, because a related gene exists in human beings, although there is no evidence yet that the human gene has an effect on sexual preference.

The text quoted above taken from this site: www.skeptictank.org...


If I could subtract 100 stars from you I would because it's people like you who two hundred years ago that would have yelled "demon" "burn them" when the person on trial was a victim of epileptic seizures.

Before you post maybe do some serious research on the subject and I don't mean "the bible" which is a book of fairytales created to control and manipulate humanity.


[edit on 14-11-2008 by ofhumandescent]



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Blueracer
The title is misleading. Christians do not/should not hate gays. Like God, hate the sin. Not the sinner. Agree or not, I'm just pointing that out.


I'm afraid you got that wrong partner, GOD DOES HATE the sinner and it is the sinner who he rebukes not the sin. God does not punish the sin he punishes the sinner. It is the sinner who must repent, not the sin. Sin in and of itself couldn't care less what God thinks because it has no mind no concsience. I know this soft on sin type of logic is often used in many of the churchs today because they don't want to offend anyone but it sure isn't in the Bible that way.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 08:33 AM
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Just because people enjoy something doesn´t make it good or right. Take meth as an example. The fact heteros do this is just a sign of perversion in society. They get from porn and movies, and most importantly form the fact that we are so condition to accept homosexual behavior as normal. And so people are desensitized to the fact that this act is not only hygienic but dangerous in many ways. And hence the rise in HIV in heterosexuals among many other problems. I don´t mean this from a hateful stance, I am speaking about this as logic dictates. I´m sick of being politically correct. It amazes me how many people are ignorantly hurting thier bodies like this and the extent of hedonism in society, its no wonder things are going downhill.








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posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 08:34 AM
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Reading posts here from a bunch of sick and twisted people, seeing their self hatred overflowing into the world, watching them trying to force their manipulative lifestyle down my throat, has left me utterly nauseated.

I believe the Christ, if he were here, would be utterly outraged and tell them such sinful behaviour disgusts him.

And it's not the homosexuals I'm talking about.



posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Parabol
I'll try to make this as short as possible, here's my line of thought.



  1. Homosexuals exist


True


  • There is a genetic factor to homosexuality


  • Scientist still disagree on this, so I guess it is a matter of opinion. IMHO it is possible since according to the Bible, after the fall of mankind, sin tainted God’s creation so that everything is now deteriorating. This deterioration is the cause for birth defects and could also cause a genetic predisposition to homosexuality.


  • Like all of us, the genetic factor influences their personal and social feelings


  • Possible


  • God creates everything and everyone


  • God created man and gave him the ability to procreate. He doesn’t continue to create each and every thing as he gave each person, animal, and plant the ability to reproduce. This should have been the ability to reproduce perfectly, but due to man’s disobedience to God, this reproduction is like making a copy of a copy. Things get corrupted.


  • God does not create people who are pre-damned, or already bound for hell upon birth due to free will


  • God does not create people. People procreate other people. Everyone is born in sin and when they are at an age when they can comprehend this, the have the “free will” to accept the gift of everlasting life or everlasting death.


  • Homosexuals exist


  • Got it the first time


  • To those who say 'change them', is like asking a straight person to change to gay, their genetic feelings and direction are based on the same chemical principles as gays


  • I don’t think that we have a choice in who we are attracted to, but we do have a choice in acting on that attraction. Just because I am married doesn’t mean that I will never be sexually attracted to another person. I simply choose not to act on that attraction. I consider myself straight, but I have been sexually attracted to both sexes. I still get to choose whether or not I act on these feelings.


  • God doesn't hate gays, damn them to hell, or care what they do because He created them as such


  • God hates sin. He loves His creation and wants all of us to repent of sin. He did not create homosexuality. It is a distortion of the original use for sex (procreation.) If He didn’t care, He wouldn’t have mentioned it.


  • ...so why in the Lords name do some Christians use God and the Bible to discriminate and hate on homosexuals??


  • The laws that God passed to Moses were guidelines for His people; first to the Jews and later to the Christians. Many atrocities have been made under the banner of Christianity but it doesn’t make it Christian. Jesus gave us one commandment; To love one another. Any sex outside of marriage is considered sin so I don’t understand why people want to judge homosexuals while they are perusing porn on the internet. I choose not to judge.


    That's pretty much it. My questions to those who are Christian and against gays are these...



    1. Do you not believe in a genetic basis?


    I believe there is a possibility.


  • Do you believe God creates people pre-damned?


  • No, Adam and Eve di that.


  • Do you feel God gives you the right to judge?


  • God is the only judge. I just try to ignore things that make me feel uncomfortable.

    {quote]
  • Do you feel God hates gays, or anyone for that matter?


    No, but I believe that God gives each person the freedom to obey Him or to do whatever they want.


    The way I see it, God is more concerned about how we treat each other than us going against Him. The commandments and other important lessons are based around us getting along and everyone experiencing a happy, peaceful time (I know wars and such were fought in His name but I don't believe men are above saying God told them to do such things, but that's another discussion).


    The commandments are God’s way of showing us how to obey Him. We can choose to follow His rules or our own. It’s that simple. Part of obeying God is loving one another and treating other people as we would like to be treated.


    To say God feels gays are an abomination to His work is like a child complaining to us that we aren't doing it right. Homosexuals do not cause Him, Christians, non-Christians, or themselves any harm. They can be Christians as well, it's not as if they are bathing in blood chanting Satans name or something. I don't understand how Christians can see God as being so hateful.


    God does not feel that gays are an abomination. Gays are people and God loves all people. But God does say that the act is an abomination. No one will be kept out of heaven for sleeping with another person. It is the rejection of Christ that will keep a person from entering the gates. God is Holy and hates all sin. He loves it when we repent of our disobedience.


    I know there is a verse which says men shouldn't lay with men or something, but I personally don't agree with it. I think parts of the Bible like this are the work of men. I find it hard to believe that every rule in Exodus was God reciting his list to whoever wrote it. "Ok now, if you steal food, thats going to be 5 oxen that must be repaid.... hmmn, no wait, better make that 10." I know that's my personal belief, but I think we should attempt to recognize how the greedy hands of men have been laid upon the book.


    I don’t believe you can pick and choose what you want to believe as far as the Bible goes. It either is or isn’t divinely inspired. If you believe it is divinely inspired, then you have to believe all of it. Either God inspired all of it, or none of it. However, many of the newer versions have been corrupted.


    Oh and for the record I'm a straight, semi-Christian (I believe in the positive God in the Bible, don't take it literally, and a strong believer in science).


    I don’t believe you can be a “semi-Christian” any more than you can be semi-pregnant. You either are or you are not. If you are not a Christian, but believe some of the Bible that’s fine. That is what you believe and I would never tell you that you are wrong.

    I can only live my life to the best of my ability. I am a Christian and I believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. I believe that everyone is given free will to believe what ever they wish. I have no desire to change anyone’s opinion. This is just one Christian’s view on your thread.



  • posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 08:50 AM
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    Originally posted by ofhumandescent

    My son has said he did not choose to be "gay" he just always was.


    Don't invalidate his saying he chooses it just because you have issues your son is gay and you overcompensate for them by jumping all over people for saying what is IN FACT TRUE.

    The fact is YOUR son like the poster says, CHOOSES his partners and he is attracted to his own sex and THAT is why he chooses to be with males when ever he chooses to have sex! No one forces anyone to have sex, and it is NOT something so integral to our immediate survival, we would die without it. The poster said he chooses to be heterosexual and perhaps he never thought about WHY he chooses it, was there not a time when you yourself had it not been for the compelling reason to understand this subject more because of your son, that YOU sounded a lot like him at one time? Or were you ALWAYS such an advanced soul?



    You're a real piece of work and you don't know shi_. Your statement is really ignorant and it's ignorant, arrogant and pompous statements like yours that make this world such a hateful place because homosexuality is far more then choosing ones sexual oriention.



    sigh, why are Gay activists so melodramatic, sheesh. One read of HIS post and one of yours and I see much more of that hate, arrogance and pomp in yours in just the opening alone.



    there is no evidence yet that the human gene has an effect on sexual preference


    So in other words, save for the man made gay fruit flys, your article concludes with the same supposition the poster you responded to does. That being their is NO proof



    If I could subtract 100 stars from you I would because it's people like you who two hundred years ago that would have yelled "demon" "burn them" when the person on trial was a victim of epileptic seizures.


    Honestly, is that a fair thing to say? YOU think you would have been any differen't two hundred years ago? You, like most everyone would have thought the person was rabid mad. With what we know now I believe it is safe to assume he wouldn't do that if he knew better but THAT is the difference you see, doing when you DO know better is a lot worse than doing something wrong when you don't know better.



    Before you post maybe do some serious research on the subject and I don't mean "the bible"


    Why should he do that? You seem to think insulting his stable datum his standard of truth will garner your respect enough that he would now heed your advice and read suggested material? Whether YOU think it is a fairytale or not used to do what? Control people? hehe That's some fairytale if it can do that.

    Hating the Bible isn't going to change him, you or your son, but reading it with the heart of a child certainly could.

    [edit on 14-11-2008 by MAINTAL]



    posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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    Originally posted by MAINTAL

    Originally posted by Blueracer
    The title is misleading. Christians do not/should not hate gays. Like God, hate the sin. Not the sinner. Agree or not, I'm just pointing that out.


    I'm afraid you got that wrong partner, GOD DOES HATE the sinner and it is the sinner who he rebukes not the sin. God does not punish the sin he punishes the sinner. It is the sinner who must repent, not the sin. Sin in and of itself couldn't care less what God thinks because it has no mind no concsience. I know this soft on sin type of logic is often used in many of the churchs today because they don't want to offend anyone but it sure isn't in the Bible that way.


    I disagree. According to John 3:16, God loves all, it is the sinner who condems himself for not believing.



    posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 09:01 AM
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    Originally posted by dooper
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    What about my consent?

    I'm not giving my consent to selected aberrant behavior. Remember, this is all genetic, a homicidal pattern borne through the millennia, my feelings can't be helped, they aren't my fault, and I have just as much right to flout my feelings and aberrant behavior as much as anyone else, right?

    Remember, there's no right and wrong. No choice, no right or wrong. No moral compass, no right or wrong.


    Extremism much?

    Yes - I actually do believe people can be born genetically just about anything.

    Adult Consent - Do no harm to another. "Moral" has become the most over used and abused "thrown around word" in this decade. I suppose you want to define my Morals for me.

    I don't see how your diatribe relates in any way to the subject.

    Isn't this thread about Christians hating gays - contradiction?



    posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 09:04 AM
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    Originally posted by darkelf

    Originally posted by MAINTAL

    Originally posted by Blueracer
    The title is misleading. Christians do not/should not hate gays. Like God, hate the sin. Not the sinner. Agree or not, I'm just pointing that out.


    I'm afraid you got that wrong partner, GOD DOES HATE the sinner and it is the sinner who he rebukes not the sin. God does not punish the sin he punishes the sinner. It is the sinner who must repent, not the sin. Sin in and of itself couldn't care less what God thinks because it has no mind no concsience. I know this soft on sin type of logic is often used in many of the churchs today because they don't want to offend anyone but it sure isn't in the Bible that way.


    I disagree. According to John 3:16, God loves all, it is the sinner who condems himself for not believing.


    You can disagree all you want and even your Bible verse proves my point. That God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so the he or she who believeth on him shall have everlasting life and shall not perish.

    Guess who perish's? Vengeance is mine saith the lord and casts the sinner into the lake of fire. The sinner ends up there, not the sin and your statement the sinner condemns himself for not believing has nothing to do with whether or not God hates the sinner.

    God Judges the sinner pal, their is no two ways about it.

    [edit on 14-11-2008 by MAINTAL]



    posted on Nov, 14 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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    This will probably irk some bible thumpers who say that homosexuality. They say that homosexuals is an abomination, like they always make the choice. They quote scriptures to back it up. What they all miss is what I believe are the most important teachings of Jesus.

    John 13:34-35
    "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

    Matthew 5:44-45
    But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

    Mark 11:25
    And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.

    A lot of Christians have fallen far from His words. They judge, condemn and persecute. If Jesus was here, He would be quick to rebuke the hypocrites of this day and age.



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