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Originally posted by racegunz
reply to post by Good Wolf
"So if there's no God at least no real Jesus because some "men" made it all up over the course of a few thousand years then our whole society is a sham!"
why? the concept of christianity is still a good way to live, whether or not it is based on a factual historical figure.
"Why if there's no final judgement then it's the law of the jungle. If you really believed that you would be a stone cold killer, rapist, thief."
Again, why, if it was proven beyond doubt tomorrow that there is no god and jesus was just radical socialist comunitty worker, would you go out and commit murder?
"Convince me that there's no God go ahead! the heart of man is evil beyond comprehension it's the respect or Love or fear of god that restrains it."
I have no fear of any god but do not consider myself evil, quite the opposite.
Convince me there is a god,
[edit on 13-11-2008 by racegunz]
Originally posted by TheColdDragon
[quoteAnd here I have to wonder why people are so godawfully obsessed and upset over what other people do with their winkies and swatches.
Why is it anybody's business who does what to whose hole with their pleasure twig?
You can argue "God's against it" you can argue "It destroys the integrity of the family!" and all you are doing is arguing a justification for your position of being an invasive, persnickity hoe-bag who cannot SETTLE unless everyone believes butt-secks is da debble.
Originally posted by Good Wolf
reply to post by Parabol
As far as I understood "christians hating" by itself was a contradiction, you know all that "Love your neighbour, love you enemies" yadayada.
if one is attracted to both sexes, not one. then how would they get married, who would they CHOOSE.
Say, you like what morality the Bible has to offer, but the metaphysical claims are quite unprovable and somewhat ignorant. Then I would hold a bit more respect for you. I am not saying that I do not respect you, I am just not a fan of fence-sitters.
lastly i feel if 2 people of the same sex generally do love each other in that way thats fine, what they do in their own homes is their business, but trying to force acceptance of such behaviour on the rest of the community is wrong and in time its going to be something they will have to accept.
The title is misleading. Christians do not/should not hate gays. Like God, hate the sin. Not the sinner. Agree or not, I'm just pointing that out.
Moses, even after all his effort, for all those years in leading his people to the Promised Land, was prohibited entry. His offense? Disobedience.
In fact, it would appear to me that the entire Old Testament could be summed up in one word: obedience.
"Homosexuality is genetic."
You will find scientists on both sides.
That being said...
Christians are not any more monolthic then the African-Americans or any other "group." Stop with your veiled accusations of "Christians."
If you believe that being Gay is genetic then your arguement is true. God does not make people born o be damned.
Oops...slight flaw in your theory. Hitler/Pol Pot/ Dahmer. Are they genteically designed to be "bad?"
The Cold Dragon
First of all, the OP approaches this conversation with a FALSE ASSUMPTION which he needs to do more research on (Don't worry, it's easy research to do).
There is a vast proportion of Religious Sects of Christianity which ascribe to "ORIGINAL SIN".
If you don't believe in the Bibles divine authorship, and you are not a Christian why do you care what we think? If there's no God you have nothing to worry about, get over it. Why justify yourself to others? Why do you care what others think or do you just get off shoving your lifestyle in the faces of those that find it wrong or sinful. You are just causing problems so you can play victim wahhhhh!!!! The Christians hate me WAAAAHHHH!!!!!
Originally posted by Clearskies
I may have had gay relation further on, but, I knew they were wrong.
I'm not a girly-girl, though!
Originally posted by pureevil81
reply to post by Good Wolf
just depends on who they decided they loved the most, that would make for a rather difficult marriage wouldnt it?
no matter which sex you were or decided to marry then one sex would be left out in marriage, so they would still be attracted to the opposite sex of whom they married?
Originally posted by Demandred
i dont hate gays, also i dont believe homosexuality is predeturmined or genetic they choose to be gay, i choose to be hetrosexual,
evolution wise and in terms of continuity of the speices homosexuality is a dead end street.
i cant remember where in the bible i read it, but i saw a passage that stated that "God Hates homosexual activity"
sex is supposed to be for procreation to continue the species,
so in essence what the gay community are trying to get everyone to accept is a corruption of whats supposed to be a beautiful moment where a man and a women create life to some perverse act.
now looking at it from a purely phisical standpoint the rectum wasnt designed to be penetrated in such a way if homosexuality was supposed to be normal it would have been designed as such to accomodate such activities.
It is important however, to note that even in such studies with identical twins, that heritability is not to be confused as inevitability.
indicating that sexual orientation is genetically influenced but not hardwired by DNA, and that whatever genes are involved represent predispositions, not predeterminations."