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I think parts of the Bible like this are the work of men.
Estimates of heritability are based upon careful analyses of studies conducted with identical twins. Such studies are important and lead to the conclusion that heredity is important in many of these traits. It is important however, to note that even in such studies with identical twins, that heritability is not to be confused as inevitability.
As Dr. Collins would agree, environment can influence gene expression, and free will determines the response to whatever predispositions might be present.
Dr. Collins succinctly reviewed the research on homosexuality and offers the following: "An area of particularly strong public interest is the genetic basis of homosexuality. Evidence from twin studies does in fact support the conclusion that heritable factors play a role in male homosexuality. However, the likelihood that the identical twin of a homosexual male will also be gay is about 20% (compared with 2-4 percent of males in the general population), indicating that sexual orientation is genetically influenced but not hardwired by DNA, and that whatever genes are involved represent predispositions, not predeterminations."
Dr. Collins noted that environment, particularly childhood experiences as well as the role of free will choices affect all of us in profound ways. As researchers discover increasing levels of molecular detail about inherited factors that underlie our personalities, it's critical that such data be used to illuminate, not provide support to idealogues.
Citing such dangers, Dr. Collins referred to the book written by activist Dean Hamer who declared the discovery of the God Gene (this same author also is associated with "discovering the gay gene").
Dr. Collins noted that the "evidence" in Hamer's book "grabbed headlines," but was "wildly overstated."
Originally posted by *Christian member*.
Both the Bible and the Koran forbid homosexuality. If a Christian is obedient to the scriptures, he 'hates what God hates'.
The objections I see here are directed toward Christians who actually maintain some sort of integrity toward the scriptures. The atrocities and so on that are cited (as if homosexuals committed none of their own) as "Christian" in nature, actually violated the principles and the specifics of scripture. No matter what they call themselves, these are not Christians - because they do not act like the Christ did. They are just as Christian as a Lesbian who only sleeps with men ... but calls herself 'lesbian' and attends 'lesbian' events.
The worlds two major religions (Christianity is one of the major ones) abhor homosexuality and consider it worthy of death. That is the current against which homosexuals swim.
Yes, "God is love". But he is also "Justice and Power". He said that men should not lie with men ... and that is in keeping with the instructions at Genesis to fill the earth. But there is also the element of justice toward those who keep his commandments buy keeping his promise to rid the earth of those who don't.
And, if Jericho, Sodom, Gomorrah. and the ruins at Babylon and the second temple at Jerusalem are any indication, he is also possessed of the power to make good on his word. Just look at Babylon. Saddam Hussein is not the first to try to rebuild it.
Your 'cause' (homosexual tolerance) is in opposition to the expressed will of God. First in the Hebrew scriptures, repeated in the Greek scriptures and copied in the Koran. Are you still amazed that you find opposition? You place your will in opposition to God's will ... as did Nimrod (Genesis 10:8-10)
We find that God Himself states that lying with animals, or men lying with men is an abomination. Christians didn't come up with that - they only reflect that which their Creator has already determined.
so in essence what the gay community are trying to get everyone to accept is a corruption of whats supposed to be a beautiful moment where a man and a women create life to some perverse act.
now looking at it from a purely phisical standpoint the rectum wasnt designed to be penetrated in such a way if homosexuality was supposed to be normal it would have been designed as such to accomodate such activities.
Originally posted by Clearskies
BTW, I've been married for almost 14 years and we have never done that.