I always thought his head looked a little big in the famous photo, here's a comparison of head size to height. It isn't exact obviously, but it's a big difference. I even gave the right photo with the smaller head some leeway but it still came out wrong.




Forgot to mention I straightened out the right photo, the original was leaning and that affects height.

[edit on 13-11-2008 by TylerKing]

Originally posted by Solomons
look at the first and second picture,round chin in the first,pointed in the second...there is hardly a large weight difference,that would not change the bone structure of the chin.

I'm pretty sure that has to do with the sunlights position. Shadows can really change faces alot. I know since i was in photography school and i don't think this is another man.

The whole thing to me looks acted. In an obvious 60's kinda way, just the way they did commercials back then. "Look world, this is me. The killer of your president, i am holding these 2 extremist papers and this rifle so that you've no doubt in your mind i am a gunloving extremist and it was really me."

I bet they promised Oswald protected identity on a far away island or something, then ofcourse they backstab him by taking advantage of Jack Ruby who clearly himself stated that there was more than meets the eye to this case and high status people were involved in getting him into the mess.

That's ofcourse just intuition from the information i've seen. It's hard to tell, but those pictures from the commision looks highly suspect.

Originally posted by Solomons
look at the first and second picture,round chin in the first,pointed in the second...there is hardly a large weight difference,that would not change the bone structure of the chin.

I am not sure about that. At least those darker spots on his skin near the chin are in both photos. That big shadow under his nose is a bit strange, i admit.

But the problem with the two-Oswalds-theory is: His wife and his relatives would have noticed. So do you think Marina met the only "second" Oswald in Russia? Or that she knew of a "swap" and she and the entire Oswald family were co-conspirator(s)?

I am not buying the two Oswalds thing. Photo and evidence manipulation and manufacturing possibly maybe even likely. Maybe even an Oswald imposter in Mexico. But a total person swap, that seems far-fetched.

Here's a 3-D stereo pair of photos of Oswald in the back yard. I guess the thing with these is that they line up well enough that if there was significant tampering done to the one, there had to have been some done to the other. But again, why anyone would do that, when either one of the photos would have been enough to sway public opinion, or whatever?

Just something to think about. Sorry if you can't free-view these images. Some people just can't. Even with 3-D glasses.

Originally posted by jhotrod

Originally posted by Solomons
look at the first and second picture,round chin in the first,pointed in the second...there is hardly a large weight difference,that would not change the bone structure of the chin.

I am not sure about that. At least those darker spots on his skin near the chin are in both photos. That big shadow under his nose is a bit strange, i admit.

But the problem with the two-Oswalds-theory is: His wife and his relatives would have noticed. So do you think Marina met the only "second" Oswald in Russia? Or that she knew of a "swap" and she and the entire Oswald family were co-conspirator(s)?

I am not buying the two Oswalds thing. Photo and evidence manipulation and manufacturing possibly maybe even likely. Maybe even an Oswald imposter in Mexico. But a total person swap, that seems far-fetched.

The second and third photo i gave a link to were only 1 month to a month and a half apart...people dont change so drastically within a max of 2 months.Some time between oswald leaving america and arriving in moscow they were switched.Either that or everything after oswald leaving America...documents,photos etc were faked.

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the shoes oswald is wearing in the picture would increase his height by 1 inch to 5 foot 10 inches as he was measured to be 5 foot 9 inches in the autopsy room .. all body's are measured naked....

Thank you for that photo-pair, Nohup. When "wall-eyeing" that, that STRANGE spot I mentioned above (on the window) really jumps out. What is it? Photo fakery? In the right photo there is a vertical, thin black line running through it from top to bottom. Splicing?


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[edit on 13-11-2008 by jhotrod]

face looks very similar but bone structure (i.e. chin, eye sockets) and eye brows are questionable.

Regarding oswald's chin in the backyard photos

The excellent book "The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald" notes that if oswald's face was pasted onto another body, it would explain the differing chin.

A photo taken after his arrest clearly shows his cleft chin:



The green line shows where his face could have been cropped

[edit on 13/11/2008 by alienanderson]

The more i look at those photos the stranger they appear to me.

Why is he standing in that awkward position. The center of gravity in his body is seemingly beyond his right foot. He should topple, at least in the picture where he holds the papers to his chest! His head looks huge in this picture.

I can somehow accept the pose in the picture where he places the rifle on his hip. But that picture has this really strange small head on him, the photographer has moved a little closer, while he moved a little bit back so he should look the same! The proportions seem different.

But the strangest thing is, while Oswald (?) looks quite different in both pics, the surrounding looks exactly the same. How can that be?

What is that black spot on the fence of the middle picture? It's not on the others.

Originally posted by jhotrod
Thank you for that photo-pair, Nohup. When "wall-eyeing" that, that STRANGE spot I mentioned above (on the window) really jumps out. What is it? Photo fakery? In the right photo there is a vertical, thin black line running through it from top to bottom. Splicing?

I'm still not seeing what you're describing. Most of the odd alignments in the photos are a result of the photographer changing position, possibly moving while they took the photo, and maybe some bad processing. Even the missing head shadow on the gate can be reasonably explained as a difference in reflection as a result of a change in position. Is there a way for you to point it out with an image?

One thing I thought was interesting is that Oswald's odd, seemingly off-balance stance is much more understandable with the help of the associated photo, as it shows the ground slightly uneven, and him balancing himself against the weight of the gun. (Guns, plural, I guess. Since he also has a pistol.) Not so odd, after all.

The hand holding the newspaper looks like he could be holding a hand gun or....


Is this the original?











[edit on 13-11-2008 by IvanZana]

Pay attention to the sections separated by the red lines, they just seem disjointed. Perhaps someone could replicate the pose he is in and see if it is just a perception or if it is truly disjointed.

Great posts!

I first found ATS while looking for information about the JFK assassination, something that I always thought was far from explained (this may be a surprise for those who think I do not believe conspiracies ).

Keep on looking, we never know when someone finds something that was never noticed or "sees" things with a different mind.

Star and flag.

PS: and welcome to ATS!
If all people would start like this...