Terrorists and sex offenders can join military.

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How about that then? Would you like to serve alongside terrorists (just making a terror threat is still terrorism) and sex offenders? I know I wouldn't.

If you join a unit, IMO you need to be able to totally trust the other members, I couldn't trust people like that.

Hey sometimes people make very bad mistakes or get caught up in something they shouldn't. Everyone deserves a second chance. The military will straighten up any bad apples or they will end up in the brig. I'd rather have a criminal serving his time in the military than working at the local department store. Just my 2 cents.

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I dunno, maybe if they only used these crims for cannon fodder, perhaps...

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Well, I agree for people who just got caught with some milder drugs years ago, or shoplifting as a teenager, stuff like that, but when it's as serious as some of the things listed there, I can't forgive people like that.

If a sex offender moved in next door to you, would you really be able to just ignore that part of their past? I know I couldn't.

While I think there are people out there who deserve second chances this does worry me. There are a lot of people with clean records who cause havoc overseas. I’m not sure if allowing people who have a criminal history will be extra risky, but it could be. In some instances I think safe is better than sorry.

Guess what people, if more criminals were given a chance and not looked down upon even 10 years after serving their "debt to society", and not forced to go unemployed and homeless then the crime rate would be lower. I think people with records should be protected by the EOE or the Equal Opportunity Employment Act.

In many states streaking is a sex crime.

Why would the marines stop someone that only got convected of streaking a basket ball game from enlisting.

that what 3 of the sex criminals the marines enlisted did.

get a life.

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Now that person I fully agree should be allowed to enlist. I guess the smart thing to do is to go by a case by case basis, which I think they have been?

Hey in most states peeing on the side of the road is Indecent Exposure...and your a sex offender. I bet 99% of the men on this site have peed on the side of the road at onetime or another. Well guess what, your all sex offenders and should be put on the list. (well not really but you get my point?)

You do have a point with that, here if you are caught urinating on the street, even if you make an attempt to go down a back alley and check no-one can see, it's the same.

Glad to see the some people are open minded.

can people from another countru join the us army
if so how?

Correct me if im wrong but I think you have to be a US citizen to join

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i totally agree. my best friend cousin is in the navy. before he went, he stole cars, sold drugs, got into fights, he was a VERY shady person i did not like to be around. well he has served and is back home, and he is totally changed. he was racist before. now he understands that those beside him in the navy were all brothers of his, no mater the color, now he knows he can do positive things for his country and cares not for making trouble at all, he is a peacemaker, a problem solver, and a compassionate human being now. the military will fix u. if you are screwed up; they UN-screw you. he was never caught at his previous crimes, what i want to know is, if someone had something like a petty theft charge or a misdemeanor DUI or something minor like that pending, or were on probation for, would joining the military be an option to getting charges dropped like back in the vietnam war? i know this used to happen because my uncle did it. would their probation vanish because it says they cannot travel out of state, so it would have to be dismissed just so they could go to boot camp. anyone know how that works?


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scoopyjon-

I know a guy from Poland who joined the NAVY, but both of his parents had gained citizenship in this country after they divorced and re-married citizens. I don’t know if that had anything to do with him being able to join.

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I know someone who not too long ago got in trouble with the law, when he asked the lawyer this question, the lawyer said NO the feds put a ban on that option.

no, we have people from other countries enlist.


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Criminals is one thing. And yes, you can be a sex offender for things that really are not that big a deal. But...when you see reports and VIDEO proof of soldiers committing acts of terror against civillians and the reports of rape are through the roof...it kind of makes you wonder just how well they are straightening anyone out before they send them to stand next to you with a loaded gun in a warzone.

I am sure it used to be a great idea but when you have lower test scores, lower physical scores, and more felony waivers than ever along with the fact that we need bodies to get shot at. It is not like they are all going into the military for decades of reform. They are getting the fast and quick and then being sent to protect and represent us.

I think there are more than enough criminal charges and videos to prove this is not working out so well. Either that or it is working out great and they are turning all the good kids into terrorist rapists because someone in OUR military is over there raping and terrorizing and it is not making us safe and it sure as hell is not making their fellow soldiers any safer.

Don't they allow people with drug offenses and those with psychological disorders now? I think this could just be used to discredit the Miliatary or bring about the kinds of people that wouldn't mind being 'in control' and enforcing martial law. Just look at the kind of sick (expletives) they let in BlackWater!

ooh I'm going to jump in on this one.

Army didn't have a problem giving me a waiver for my terrorist threat.
Even gave me a $20,000 bonus and sent me through Warrant Officer school and Fort Rucker for flight school. Then they went and put a $6m UH60 in my hands.

Wanna know the kicker on this? My conviction for a bomb threat consisted of:

As I watched the news footage of a suicide bombing in Gaza...
"God I just wish he (referring to my boss) would blow himself up so we wouldn't have to deal with this #." as we sat through a sensitivity training on how to handle uncomfortable situations with "our arab friends" as he put it.

In this day and age, I could have been thrown in Gitmo, luckily back then I took a plea deal which screwed me royally, but the Army was more than happy to forgive that in exchange for 6 years of my life.

Yeah there are a lot of criminals who are bad people, but not all of us are...before I became a "terrorist" I was an Eagle Scout, a National Merit Semifinalist, a certified lifeguard and a search and rescue volunteer with Phoenix FD and MCSO, and the speaker at both my baccalaureate and high school graduation. I graduated with honors, and with the most hours of community service in my school, over 5000. I have never been in trouble with the law before or after, with the exception of a speeding ticket when I was 17.

But I was a "terrorist" under the laws of the land.

If there is any person who fully commits him or herself to the service of this country, I think there should be an opportunity for loyalty to be proven. If a former thug decides that he wants to serve his country and is willing to abide by all the rules and regulations of the armed services, I say give him a chance. I saw plenty of men who came in with the option of either jail or service and most left as stand up characters that I am proud to call friends.