Who the illuminati really are

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

I am Anton, host of Meridian Eisenhardt, High Priestess of the Covenant Ravenswolfe.
I represent a coven which makes up one fraternal order of many that are commonly referred to as Illuminati.
I am authorized by the council of the supreme order to represent the Illuminati in its entirety according to the laws set forth that govern all existence.

I am most pleased to find that our purposes are being so scrutinized and deliberated over. This is a sign that people will to be free thinkers, a thing which our many and diverse Orders have a comon interest in.
The Bavarian Illuminati is no longer a existent fraternity, however many of the ideas which they established as moral obligations are congruent with the many organizations that are united in our cause.
You may now submit questions for review by the Orders and hear answers to them given via a spokeperson on Youtube on the Illuminati Rising Series. (search for "Illuminati Rising")
You may also visit our special website which we have established for the very reason of informing the public for the very first time concerning our current workings, and the soon to be fulfilled completion of the fourth cycle toward accension.

Ignorance and neivity abound but for the conditions in which they thrive; though peculiar are the workings of our creator in that the universe requires response only to those things which we can cognitively conclude, and only in such measure as we are able to realize said conclusions.
Blame not thine iniquity toward thine own lands on us, but take responsibility for that which ye meet, and look inwardly as the gods ye are to reconcile thine affliction of morality with the reality within which ye now interact.
“This is the great object held out by this Association: and the means of attaining it is Illumination, enlightening the understanding by the sun of reason, which will dispel the clouds of superstition and of prejudice. The proficient in this Order are therefore justly named the Illuminated. And of all Illumination which human reason can give, none is comparable to the discovery of what we are, our nature, our obligations, what happiness we are capable of, and what are the means of attaining it. In comparison with this, the most brilliant sciences are but amusements for the idle and luxurious.”
-Dr. Adam Weishaupt


It is most unfortunate that most persons of cognitive reasoning will never be able to actively and willfully participate in the great work which is nearing its completion even as I do now write this.
We are not your enemy so long as you do not oppose us.

May Order be born of Chaos Alway,
Anton Incarnia Meridia

Love is the law, love under will.

www.dabbudynasty.org...

reply to post by meridianshost

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and you the Illuminated have some of grade ? that you are judging the human race with?

You I take it are not ?people?


why all the pseudo religious lingo? thee, thou , and such

if you are benevolent as you say, why would you be opposed?

I book marked your site ,I'm all for a change for the better in this world ,I'm working to effect such a thing myself

I'm watching you , thee

youre always welcome... hey, dont forget to update me whats going on there....

reply to post by invisiblewoman

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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I am host for the spiritual entity Meridian, and as such am entered into a contract similar to that described as succubus in Christian theology, though we do not regard this marriage as a negative unification.
Thus have I gained immortality. To answer your question, many of us are both human and non-human.

Opposition to all ideals must at least potentially exist in order for the ideals to be set at all.

Our manner of speech is intended to reverence those persons whom we address.

Please do monitor our activities as this helps to provide for the opportunity to keep others aware.

Peace to all god's servants,
Anton

Love is law, love under will

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OK Pilgrim consider a picture is worth a thousand words. And you are a Pilgrim, we are all Pilgrims on this path of adventure we call the road of life. The Eye, the All seeing All knowing Eye. It is metaphysical, it is esoteric, it is introverted, it is your eye my eye all eyes the eye of the living the eye of the dead the God the eye of the universe the eye of nothing. It is the eye which marks your birth. The eye which marks the hour of your death. it is the eye which marks your transformation with the all that is the all. It is the eye that marks your departure. It is the eye that marks your return. To see is to believe. To not be seen is to be infinately alone. We all want an eye to mark our leaving from a place upon our quest into the the unknown and we certainly want to know that those eyes, that at least one eye, has felt a since of loss by our leaving and is there to mark our return when we come home. Think on this and be enlightened. You either get it or you don't. Blood and Mayhem are the road to elimination of the dregs and undesirables. Profit in terms of money is profit in terms of your work. Not a value of your worth, but a value of your contribution to the Great Work of Society itself. Evil, yes. But what is Evil if it eliminates the greater Evils of life. Is it Pagan to realize Genesis alone uses Elohim (or Lord plural) numerous times in the Creation story and throughout the letters of the overall text and is plural of Eloi (or Lord singular) and that Dieties are symbols of aspects of existance. Even the Pagan Ba'al or Ba'el simply translates into "the Lord"
"A picture is worth a thousand words, but words can never paint a complete picture" -- anonymous, P.M.P. % tt IOI (or maybe I'm an agent provocateur and just made that up.)
Educate yourself. Challenge everything. Agree to agree to disagree. Just think about it while putting it out of your mind all at once. It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a Man to enter the kingdom of heaven (unless, it's the famous Space Needle). Physically, yes, but in the eye of the imagination, no. I can picture it, can't you? You will not find me in mansions of wood or stone, yet, split a tree and you will find me, lift a stone and I am there. Point to a flower, if they laugh they get it, if not, they are lost.
Consider the cause of a way of thinking and living, before, you can properly address the symptoms of the resultant lifestyle. Not doing so has been the seed of many a war and atrocities in the name of conflicting philosophies and dogma's the world over. A Global Society is not to fear- It's whose Society that should give you pause. The Majority (or Mob) rules mentality of government for self and others is fine, but, what if the majority are barbarians? What if the minorities rule and are barbarians, too. When you decide not to allow subversive Societies to rule you already allow for the argument, "then who rules?" You? Me? No One? Who, if not they are prepared to tackle they challenges and necessities of organizing the global masses efficiently?
I never said I support a NWO, but I never said I was against it, either. Learn the Eye to Mark you Pilgrim, to see that it sees all. We're watching you watching us watching you.

So, Book burnings, Artifact aquisitions of all types, hording of "religious (yeah right) and other forms of bans, censorships, censors, monitoring, reappropriation, and covert/ overt collection of goods, products, services, ideas, literature and the like mean nothing to you?
Look at ancient Summerian and egyptian artwork, then look at what has been "revealed" about their firsts of all civilized societies which we still use today: science, technology, math, history, surgery, medicine, law, and on and on. We still use their astronomy and geometry--look at your watch and modified calenders. Now, go back to the artwork on pyramids- they only show the left side of a person, despite all their level of sophistication and degree of detail and structure in their statues and constructions, we are "led" or "made" to believe they had the art skills of children. Where are their real works of art? More importantly, who and what did they opt to portray. I mean the theory is a large mass of thousands "built" the pyramids - even though ancient material which "survives" tell of giants and heroes and legends of immense strength. Hell, remember the Hebrews story of Sampson, the Epic of Gilgamesh, or the Enuma Elish of the Ur of the Chaldeans (the Pagans), that is, ancient Summeria. Why are we to believe we are somehow more advanced than they were, when actually, the reverse may be true. From the Enuma Elish, the very tablets where we get our math and science of today which has barely been altered, modified, or abolished, but simply "added" to (or exposed more of the original than has been previously released). They say this information which follows was not given to us by our ancestors AS IS TRADITION but from they who from heaven to earth came. Now why do we accept the logic of the math and science, which we still use today, but, refute the source? The biggest lie in history is, I believe, that you "could fill a room with all the knowledge of the world" at one time. I doubt it. I bet you could fill warehouses, or, say, massive vaults and chambers and call them lost, destroyed, or "religious" artifacts, property of State or private collectors, or guise the "lost" information as new "discoveries". Did ancients have a battery like, lo and behold, we have today, as discovered, or do we have batteries like the ancients which we only now get to use after ages of an elect few using them first. And maybe the ancients have a more sophisticated Battery, which the elect use today which several generations may have to pass before the common folk may use it, if ever. Or maybe you're right. They got lucky on a few fronts way back when and we happen to take up the same subject and happen to do it better. Either way, we step on the backs of genius, or they step on us. Educate yourself before you blindly assert whats impossible or improbable.

So, Book burnings, Artifact aquisitions of all types, hording of "religious (yeah right) and other forms of bans, censorships, censors, monitoring, reappropriation, and covert/ overt collection of goods, products, services, ideas, literature and the like mean nothing to you?
Look at ancient Summerian and egyptian artwork, then look at what has been "revealed" about their firsts of all civilized societies which we still use today: science, technology, math, history, surgery, medicine, law, and on and on. We still use their astronomy and geometry--look at your watch and modified calenders. Now, go back to the artwork on pyramids- they only show the left side of a person, despite all their level of sophistication and degree of detail and structure in their statues and constructions, we are "led" or "made" to believe they had the art skills of children. Where are their real works of art? More importantly, who and what did they opt to portray. I mean the theory is a large mass of thousands "built" the pyramids - even though ancient material which "survives" tell of giants and heroes and legends of immense strength. Hell, remember the Hebrews story of Sampson, the Epic of Gilgamesh, or the Enuma Elish of the Ur of the Chaldeans (the Pagans), that is, ancient Summeria. Why are we to believe we are somehow more advanced than they were, when actually, the reverse may be true. From the Enuma Elish, the very tablets where we get our math and science of today which has barely been altered, modified, or abolished, but simply "added" to (or exposed more of the original than has been previously released). They say this information which follows was not given to us by our ancestors AS IS TRADITION but from they who from heaven to earth came. Now why do we accept the logic of the math and science, which we still use today, but, refute the source? The biggest lie in history is, I believe, that you "could fill a room with all the knowledge of the world" at one time. I doubt it. I bet you could fill warehouses, or, say, massive vaults and chambers and call them lost, destroyed, or "religious" artifacts, property of State or private collectors, or guise the "lost" information as new "discoveries". Did ancients have a battery like, lo and behold, we have today, as discovered, or do we have batteries like the ancients which we only now get to use after ages of an elect few using them first. And maybe the ancients have a more sophisticated Battery, which the elect use today which several generations may have to pass before the common folk may use it, if ever. Or maybe you're right. They got lucky on a few fronts way back when and we happen to take up the same subject and happen to do it better. Either way, we step on the backs of genius, or they step on us. Educate yourself before you blindly assert whats impossible or improbable.

Sorry post repated itself- comp errors
The point I was getting at is look at oil companies I know first hand from the chief engineer of the Budweiser racing team for thee years, Mr. Nichols of San Diego, CA that he and several engineers developed water based engines and carburators, one of many over the years, which the oil giants bought up the patents and rights the shelved in their vaults while legally obligating those involved against disclosing or building such designs. If they refused to consent to the sales or injunctions, the Feds would simply appropriate them under Nat'l Security interests- imagine the rush for water based vehicles which would crash the oil industry a major economic interest to which many would lose profit from their stocks, jobs, or other ramifications from involvements with these agencies that they, their relatives, and their friends may be benifitting from in their lives and careers, only to be replaced by the new investors, and upstarts from this new type of industry. Thoeries of this sort abound everywhere. But the fact is there is and is actually possible to make water based engines and carborators. You'll never see it, but, it doesn't mean they don't use it. Why is yesterday- no matter how remote- different from today?
Plus, maybe, thousands of people didn't build the pyramids. I mean, not a one of them wrote or drew about the massive exercise anywhere during their downtime. It is the nature of man to express himself creatively. Either, it was massively suppressed or they never wrote or drew about the massive operation they were undertaking. Even if they couldn't write, they could draw. They didn't. Their pics show a few people at work, not an army of people. Seeing is believing. Doubtful an army of people moved stones weighing in excess of tons, layer after layer, defying gravity, increasing the tonnage- even with Mason's Keys to help them. It's more likely as they claim that their God's (aliens?), or rather, use of their God's (aliens?) technologies (or "magic") undertook the work.

There was a link with very small text here on ATS at the bottom of the page (so small it couldn't be read). The website it linked to used to be blacklabrynth.com and no longer exists. On the websiet was a circular maze with an 'all-seeing eye in the middle', that said:



More questions and answers at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Who really are a people? Whom are they truly defined by, their self perception, or the perception of others? The actions of one, or the actions of many?

I am an Illuminon of the Shards of the original Bavarian Illuminati.
If you wish to learn a part of the story never told, please give this thread a moment's glance:

Shard of the Illuminati

- Maban

reply to post by meridianshost

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You say:

The Order is Thelemic, and because of this we are compelled to act as our unified will provides we should. Overthrowing sovereign governmental institutions, and replacing them with a singular government is and has been a neccesary step to take in order to progress to the next aeon which will lead to the attainment of our goal, and it is crucial that we do anything it takes to deliver on our oath of said attainment.
I can sincerely say that I am greived that there is not a way to expediantly perform the required tasks that I am personally responsible for, being among the enlightened, without the extermination of 80% of a species so closely related to myself; and I do understand fully the emotional impact and "moral" considerations involved in pursuing our intended course of action over the next several years; however, because you do not have the required sets of abilities, nor the emotional or intellectual capacity to directly involve yourself in the workings which are underway and will surely come to pass very soon, you may rest assured that we have and will continue to provide for you to participate in at least the laypersons dexterities such as revenue contributions through taxation, and gridwork maintainance such as the day to day work that you do to provide for the egotistical needs of the masses. (And we are thankful for everyone's hard work)
Anton, host of Meridian Eisenhardt, Covenant Ravenswolfe, Ordo Illumini DCLXVI

"Love is the law, love under will"


I found:

The founder of the Rothschild dynasty, Mayer Amschel Bauer, told the secret of controlling the government of a nation over 200 years ago. He said, "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes its laws." Get the picture? Your freedom hinges first on the nation's banks and money system. Freedom is connected with Debt Elimination for each individual. Not only does this end personal debt, it places the people first in line as creditors to the National Debt ahead of the banks. They don't wish for you to know this.

My question is:

Is it the end game of this group to issue and control the money of a one world government ? So as to control the whole world.

reply to post by fio1968

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Meet the Illuminati :

Black Lodge = those with knowledge who use said knowledge for purely selfish enterprises. Opportunistic, relies on being "smarter and more cunning" that those they exploit.

White Lodge = those who use their knowledge to educate others, to help humanity move forward as a unified whole. Humanitarian in nature.

Grey Lodge = Those who mind their own buisness, attend to their personal studies, artistic pursuits, etc...etc. without any large scale agenda.

Hope that helps.

Still waiting for that answer. Don't know if I found anything earthshattering there but I thought someone would have found it interesting. Oh well.

reply to post by meridianshost

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Still waiting on a reply. I know you have to be all cryptic and stuff so I'll keep checking now and then. I remember a show that had the same theme as your organization. I believe it was called Pinky and The Brain. The Brains plans never seemed to pan out though.

So the illuminati have already perfected the scientific method?

I couldn't agree with you more infinitus. I posted here much earlier when I first came to ats. I'm still new here. I was on a thread about the origin of the nwo and I came to the same conclusions you have. I neglected to read this whole thread when I first came to it and am happy to see it now.

From the other post:

"An intellect which at a certain moment would know all forces that set nature in motion, and all positions of all items of which nature is composed, if this intellect were also vast enough to submit these data to analysis, it would embrace in a single formula the movements of the greatest bodies of the universe and those of the tiniest atom; for such an intellect nothing would be uncertain and the future just like the past would be present before its eyes.
en.wikipedia.org..."

I can almost see us driven to accomplish more and more. The closer we get the clearer the agenda becomes. Have we been driven to discover greater and greater things to appease someone or something elses need for knowlege? The one world government thing is a given as well. It is part of the agenda. It happened at one time as recorded in the Bible.

Genesis 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

I do not. Again I repeat I do not want to get into the validity of the Bible with anyone. I am using this as an example of when all people unified. I find it extremely amazing that it is quoted that when they were unified God said that nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Think about that for a moment. Whatever your imagination can concieve you will be able to bring about.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



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