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Why do I have to register for the Selective Service System?!?!


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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:42 AM by RKWWWW


Originally posted by SonsOfAnarchy
It lets them draft me in a time of crisis...wtf I thought that the draft wasn't around at all anymore...especially with the # happening now I don't want to register...Did anyone else get this??What did you do? If you don't register it says you may go to prison or pay a fine...this is bs. If your drafted can you purposely fail the tests and act like a retard or get tired after one push up? Now I wish I was fat...

[edit on 12-11-2008 by SonsOfAnarchy]


Ha Ha! You're gonna die in a pointless war!



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:42 AM by warrenb


you received this as a letter in the mail???

where do you live and can you scan it so we can spread the word about this draft (lets call it what it is)



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:43 AM by liquidsmoke206


Seems pretty much illegal. The fact that you have to sign up because you're born with a penis is typical. Guys get the short end of the stick all over society, but somehow it's women's rights and issues that always get the focus.

It is weird that they have you sign up though. Why go through the trouble of getting a signature if you HAVE TO sign up anyways. The whole point of asking you to sign you're name is indicative of you having a choice.


I signed up, never went, probably too old now. Wouldn't have gone if they enlisted me anyways though. I'll sign my name if it keeps you off my back, but it doesn't mean I'm not totally lying about whatever I'm signing up for.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:44 AM by SonsOfAnarchy


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If I am ever drafted I surely won't go.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:45 AM by Alexander_Supertramp


I'm not sure about that one, but I'd think that would basically be suicide. Join the military, yet refuse to kill someone when on the battlefield, so you get shot. I still think it's a better idea to just sign it and then refuse to go if need be.

Good news is, there's a small chance that a draft will be necessary any time in the near future. I really wouldn't worry about it too much, but that's just my opinion.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:45 AM by SonsOfAnarchy


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Yea I got it in the mail and I live in Pennsylvania. I can try to scan it later tonight after I come back from school.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:47 AM by warrenb


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fantastic

this needs to get out as a wake up call to all



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 11:54 AM by bdswetty


Originally posted by SonsOfAnarchy
and one more thing if the constitution is still not dead then how come if i refuse something like this i can be punished? i know the constitution came out long before this SS thing but still I think i should be able to refuse this.

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Overall, it doesn't really matter. You know right from wrong. If I ever get a draft paper in the mail, I can gaurentee it will burn to ashes before I consider it.

If they can't get an army together because people won't volunteer, then that means the government isn't worth fighting for. The moment a draft is enlisted it the moment I will no longer honor any legal contract put in place by the government or it's affiliates.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:00 PM by Doom and Gloom


Where do you people live? Selective service has been around for a long time. This is not a conspiracy.


The Selective Service Act of 1917 (40 Stat. 76) was passed by the Congress of the United States on May 18, 1917 creating the Selective Service System.

Don't think there is a real need for alarm. If it is against your beliefs or whatever there are a plethora of ways to not be drafted if it came to be.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:04 PM by djpaec


Selective service wanted me to join when I was 8 years old. Sent me the letter and a razor blade. I guess someone screwed up and thought I was born in 74 and not 84. That was certainly scary, especially with my older brother antagonizing me about it.

Unless there is some sort of Elementary school indoctrination that I missed. =p



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:05 PM by Atlantican


Looks like Obama's very own SS are getting their ducks in a row.

Well you could always make a scribble for a signature and spell everything poorly. Write in a way that handwriting analysis shows the writer a dangerous unpredictable narcissistic person and use the phrase for god is great as a post script or under your signature.

If ever it goes to interview randomly cuss (terettes syndrome from hell) and piss yourself right there. Scratch your face like a meth addict and conveniently develop problems wit your motor skills. Yell " I like to make werewolf movies!" and go all happy like turtleboy saying "I like tuutles" etc. I think you might know where I'm going with this. Hehehehe.

They'll know quickly that you aren't suitable for anything they have in mind sparing target practice or arts n crafts.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:05 PM by SonsOfAnarchy


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Can you name some of theses ways because most the ways that used to work do not anymore...not the only son thing as was mentioned before neither does the fact that someone is a student...its on the website, it says this:

HOW THE DRAFT HAS CHANGED SINCE VIETNAM
If a draft were held today, it would be dramatically different from the one held during the Vietnam War. A series of reforms during the latter part of the Vietnam conflict changed the way the draft operated to make it more fair and equitable. If a draft were held today, there would be fewer reasons to excuse a man from service.

www.sss.gov...



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:05 PM by prototism


Ignorant anarchist. SS is not the draft. Its simply a way for them to keep track of the able bodied men (and women) of this country.

Get a clue.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:06 PM by SonsOfAnarchy


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haha thats great I was thinking the same thing at one point why not just act like a retard or if there is a crisis just eat mcdonalds everyday for two months and gain 200lbs



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:09 PM by SonsOfAnarchy


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Haha...umm but it clearly says in a time of crisis they may draft me to the army...which clearly goes against the 13th and 14th amendments

13th: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

keywords "involuntary servitude"

14th:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I think this one speaks for itself



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:14 PM by Darthorious


Originally posted by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by Doom and Gloom



Can you name some of theses ways because most the ways that used to work do not anymore...not the only son thing as was mentioned before neither does the fact that someone is a student...its on the website, it says this:

HOW THE DRAFT HAS CHANGED SINCE VIETNAM
If a draft were held today, it would be dramatically different from the one held during the Vietnam War. A series of reforms during the latter part of the Vietnam conflict changed the way the draft operated to make it more fair and equitable. If a draft were held today, there would be fewer reasons to excuse a man from service.

www.sss.gov...


True flat feet don't work anymore lol...

If you have ever been admitted to a psych. ward that's a big red flag.

Pretend to try and kill yourself and that will get you admitted.

One of the questions they ask when doing the physical is have you ever thought about killing yourself. You can say yes and then explain to them what you have all tried to do it. You need to say on a weekly basis to this question as if you say daily they might suspect your trying to get out of it.

Heart problems will also keep you out.

Tell them your a raging alcoholic and take the 12 step program but arrive at your physical drunk.

If you test positive for drugs chances are your out as last thing they want is a tank driver on acid lol...



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:19 PM by Darthorious


One other way I just thought of.

If you go to a local Dr. and tell him your always depressed and get him to give you a prescription for anti-depressants on a regular basis this will show that you have a long history of depression and may help in keeping you out too.

Call a suicide hotline every so often also to make it more convincing.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:20 PM by prototism


Originally posted by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by prototism



Haha...umm but it clearly says in a time of crisis they may draft me to the army...which clearly goes against the 13th and 14th amendments

13th: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

keywords "involuntary servitude"

14th:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I think this one speaks for itself

You know what, you may very well be right. But if to had to bet, I would bet that you weren't.

You must have just turned 18, and believe me, it shows. All it really boils down to is you crying and moaning about a program that has been part of this country IN LIEU of an actual draft, for years. Decades even.

Grow up. Get over it. Either accept it as part of being a citizen of this country, do everything you can to avoid being "drafted", or get the hell out of the country.

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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:35 PM by Oreyeon


Originally posted by shaolin_dragon
I emigrated here to the us to Ohio, and as part of state law, to apply for a drivers license, i had to register with the selective service. I was 25 at the time. if i had waited till a few months later when i turned 26, i wouldnt have had to register. Its sucks, but from what i can make out, now i'm 26 i'm no longer elegible to be called up. At least, thats what i can make out.


I don't have the link, or know where I saw this, but I remember reading that they upped the maximum Cannon Fodder age to 34 or 36. Meaning, if you're not older than that, they can still draft you. But you know what? There's this thing called free will, where you just tell them to kiss your ass.



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 12:38 PM by Ferengi


What if you were in jrotc in high school? void or no



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