Could the lower Christmas spending be the Pervebial Straw that causes the meltdown?, page 1
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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 08:36 AM by Trayen11
reply to post by Karlhungis



Agreed, but since the so called Bottom of 8000 the DOW hit a while ago the market seems to be just bouncing around since. It seems like traders are out there going through the motions....noone seems to know what to do.

Which is why i post the question. Could a report of horrible christmas spending cause the "panic" everyone is waiting for thats going to cause everything to finally Blow up for sure?


reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 08:43 AM by anachryon
Will cause?

I think it's already been caused. Camel's back is broken.
"The economy fell off a cliff in October,'' said Richard Berner, co-head of global economics at Morgan Stanley in New York.

The meltdown is here.

Christmas spending?
This is gonna be more like NoMas spending.
My kid and my young niece & nephew are the only ones getting gifts this year, and it's not going to be anywhere near the level of previous years. We simply can't afford it.

The post-holiday retail report will be disappointing at best, devastating at worst. It'll put some retailers out of business.


reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 07:23 PM by Rockpuck
Originally posted by anachryon
Will cause?

I think it's already been caused. Camel's back is broken.
"The economy fell off a cliff in October,'' said Richard Berner, co-head of global economics at Morgan Stanley in New York.

The meltdown is here.

Christmas spending?
This is gonna be more like NoMas spending.
My kid and my young niece & nephew are the only ones getting gifts this year, and it's not going to be anywhere near the level of previous years. We simply can't afford it.

The post-holiday retail report will be disappointing at best, devastating at worst. It'll put some retailers out of business.


We agree, 100%, a poor Christmas season will not be the cause of anything, it is only a symptom of the various causes..

However, it will still have it's effects.

A devastating Christmas will mean MASSIVE layoffs that will carry over to next year, honestly right now we are in a recession, a devastating Christmas imo means we are in for a depression ..

If the auto makers fail, along with a poor Christmas, it would be the Perfect Storm of financial destruction.

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