Try this on..The virus is really some malevolent code put in to hijack the good code and disrupt/disorganize it. You think those Chinese hackers are behind it?

Maybe I have been reading too much about how this world may be a 3D holographic projection...possibly.

i agree with the op.

and i certainly believe that the disease can be esoteric in nature or not within the physical realm

if one has abundant energy thru qi gong or internal energy cultivation like meditiation, then one will not get ill

go out there and start doing some qi gong people!!!

Are you people F-ing kiddin me!?!!?



I, too, have worked professionally with Viruses in the Lab - and they are WELL understood!

Trust me - they exist and work just like any competent current college level textbook describes them.

And they are really frikkin' interesting - educate yourselves and learn more about them - and Biology in general.

Sheeshh!!!

Originally posted by sir_chancealot

Originally posted by redled
...We have recognised viruses under microscopes...

Just a minor point, but no one has viewed living viruses under microscope in a VERY long time. Dr. Royal Raymond Rife developed a microscope whereby you could see living viruses, but it lost out to GE's development of the Electron Microscope.

That would be because no viruses are alive.

I posted this before and got similar kinds of naive responses. What the doctor is pointing out is that what passes for the proof of a virus as a photographed RNA strand turns out to be an unreliable somewhat random product of the junk in the petri dish. With the best equipment and dedicated research he couldn't find a virus and he's not stupid, he's the one in a million that can actually think!

Yes, "something" causes an illness like AIDS for example, but what that is, is not really known. Selling solutions to go with causes is big business, control and extermination. We know that vaccines have been used to claim cures to illness only to cause worse illness. They can't do that if they don't first claim they know what the problem is and have then isolated the solution. They can't be the heros, saviors, deliverers.

There is another guy from Japan with research lead him to believe the body manufactures illness itself. I believe that this is very correct. The idea being that the body seems to be a kind of self generating laboratory that manufactures on demand illnesses suitable to introduce karmic conditions of the individual. Think of it this way, your body and mind are there to facilitate your exhausting imperfections so it's very natural that it would facilitate the introduction of what ever it takes to do that. This maximizes your efforts to exhaust karma from both desires and paybacks. Naturally, people are cowards and not willing to think or understand or face the reality of their existence here. So denial of such likely realities meets with the usual opposition (at least at first).

Originally posted by ReelView
I posted this before and got similar kinds of naive responses. What the doctor is pointing out is that what passes for the proof of a virus as a photographed RNA strand turns out to be an unreliable somewhat random product of the junk in the petri dish. With the best equipment and dedicated research he couldn't find a virus and he's not stupid, he's the one in a million that can actually think!

Yes, "something" causes an illness like AIDS for example, but what that is, is not really known. Selling solutions to go with causes is big business, control and extermination. We know that vaccines have been used to claim cures to illness only to cause worse illness. They can't do that if they don't first claim they know what the problem is and have then isolated the solution. They can't be the heros, saviors, deliverers.

There is another guy from Japan with research lead him to believe the body manufactures illness itself. I believe that this is very correct. The idea being that the body seems to be a kind of self generating laboratory that manufactures on demand illnesses suitable to introduce karmic conditions of the individual. Think of it this way, your body and mind are there to facilitate your exhausting imperfections so it's very natural that it would facilitate the introduction of what ever it takes to do that. This maximizes your efforts to exhaust karma from both desires and paybacks. Naturally, people are cowards and not willing to think or understand or face the reality of their existence here. So denial of such likely realities meets with the usual opposition (at least at first).

I believe that this is a more right point of view than the current understanding by scientists who only know what they know based on the extremely flawed scientific method.

And without trying to derail the thread, I'll say that what you say is also not 100% true. There are times when it happens and it is actually not because of sin. Jesus said to the family who asked why theirs was made sick, and He replied, "It is nothing wrong that he has done or that you have done. It is so that the works of God may be made manifest through him."

Careful to think that everytime you get sick, it is a punishment! But also careful to think that you are undeserving...

Be safe, friends.

I'll go with option A and not believe it. If there were no viruses, we couldn't isolate them. If we couldn't isolate them we couldn't create vaccines. If we couldn't create vaccines that target those non-existent viruses, chances are your mother would have had rubella, or you would have been born with polio, or you'd be dead now from smallpox.

I'm amused by all the "i work in a lab with viruses daily!" comments here by people who really do not know what they talk about.

Several foundations have promised well over a million dollars in total to the first person who proves the isolation of HIV.

Are you all so rich that you won't take a sample, isolate the "so well understood" virus from there, and cash in and become a millionaire?



..disinformation agents...

So if I read this correct what is being said is that the VIRUS situation is more or less normal diseases that have been within the human structure for a long time. But since we have KNOWLEDGE of these microorganisims now we have begin to fear these microorganisims. And with the fear embedded within our minds we have begun to let the FEAR kill us off due to us having the mindstate that something bad is inside us and will harm or kill us and having these negative thoughts can cause 1 to die or become ill. Sorta like if THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS CALLED DEATH was never introduced to the human mindstate then human mindstate would not consider dying at all! This thread does sorta make sense..