Why do people hate socalism, communism, democracy, monarchy etc.

Im just asking why do some people dislike different ways of governace I would like educated answers; not run of the mill this is bad blah blah blah.

Anyone have educated answers of why they dislike any system.

Socialism
Communism
Capitalist
Democracy
Representative Democracy
Republic
Communitarianism
Conservatism
Totalitarianism
Social democracy
Utopia
Dystopia
Monarchies
etc.

Keep in mind that all have had good leaders within each category over the thousands of years but something else happens so try to think of each category with more than just one leader in mind.

Could anyone give me there true reason on why they dislike whatever system etc

Anyone saying they like or dislike communism, socalism or democracy please explain why in detail since if anyone was to actually achieve true communism it would be a utopia and true democracy would be a dystopia. Not saying anyone could but if we actually ever achieved either in there true form everything would be different.

Also for anyone that is a Christian; Jesus said treat everyone equal wouldnt that be socalist idea.


[edit on 11-11-2008 by kvaniu]

[edit on 11-11-2008 by kvaniu]

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Republic is the best IMHO. You can't FORCE anyone to be a Christian or un-selfish(communist) and it leads to blood-shed.

I dislike totalitarianism because it means that someone else is in control of what I do and that there is very little I can do to stop it.

I don't necessarily dislike the ideas of Socialism and Communism, but that's all they are - ideas. They don't work in the real world as we have seen, since in the end someone always seizes power, even it's supposed to be an everybody is equal scenario. Animal Farm is a superb representation of this.

There are some Socialist ideas that I support though. But for a country, it would not work. I do like the idea of everyone being equal to each other but I also see the need for a government that represents the people, rather than a government that IS the people.

I don't like capitalism because the people with more money just get richer in this frame of thinking. But I don't think I know enough about it to make any more arguments about it so I won't.

And as for things like monarchies, just, yuck. It's almost the same as a totalitarian state and that is just disgusting. Dictatorships only work if you agree with the dictator, haha, but how often does everyone in the state/country agree with what their all powerful ruler is saying to them?

My personal belief is I support none of them however i would pick and choose a few things in each of them and really not favoring any of them.

I dislike them all pretty much. They're all somebody else telling me what to or what not to do with varying degrees of interference. I dont want anyone taking my property (inclusive of wages earned) and I want to be left alone. Screw the 'infrastructure' and 'services.' If I wasnt being forced to pay into the system with income and property taxes I would have abandoned the 'infrastructure' long ago. Property confiscation under penalty of imprisonment or death keeps slaves in the system and subsequently dependent upon the infrastructure somebody else wanted to put in place at their expense. Stay with it long enough and you forget you're a slave and go shopping. Hence all of these drones who think the sun wouldnt rise without the government extorting their property at gun point. Utopia is only possible if everyone underwent a full-frontal lobotomy. There will always at least one who disagrees with the mass and unless the mass promptly kills the dissenter the Utopia isnt.

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i don't like a number of the different philosophies mentioned. using communism or capitalism, or any of the shades between, as a form of government is objectionable because it requires that society is run as an economy.

if you accept this to be true, as it evidently is judging by the current political climate, the ramifications are pretty disturbing. essentially, in any political system run on an economic basis, money, often referred to simply as "the economy", is more important than the citizens.

in fact, citizens are merely an aspect of the economy, either as consumers or producer/workers, and the resources allocated to them is directly proportional to the perceived benefit which can be derived from them.

given that the above is true, another way of viewing the situation puts citizens firmly in the category of state asset, and the value assigned to these assets depends almost entirely on their productivity. in any economic model the aim is to increase wealth, therefore, the productivity of the asset citizen is determined by their level of wealth generation.

in an incentivised economic government (capitalism) the generation of wealth is equal to personal wealth and in a non-incentivised economic government (communism) wealth generation is intimately linked to power. in either case, the valuable assets are far smaller in number than the disposable assets.

what all this means is that, in an economic government, the government inevitably works for the betterment of a select elite at the expense of the majority. there is no way an economic government can function in any other way.

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Well humans like to hate things. It doesn't really matter what it is. Humans like to get whipped up into ferverous masses and focus energy, often violence, on what they see as competition. It doesn't matter if the focus of their energy is right, wrong or even real.

I think its some kind of left over survival behavior from the time that packs of humans had to compete for territory and wild game, prior to agriculture. That irrational competitive instinct never left the species and could be seen as the source of much conflict, hate, and ignorance among modern humanity.

Basically my pet rock is better than yours and we fight over whose is the best. If I think yours is better then I fight you and take your rock. The fight in the end isn't really about the rock at all. The fight is about the fight, the rock is just an excuse.

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I don't support any form of government that isn't represented by the people, as long as they have a say I could care less. I could give a short list of countries where I don't like there forms of government.
Sudan
North Korea
Iran
Saudia Arabia
Equatorial Guinea
Zimbabwe

But most of those are Dictatorships or Theocracy's that don't pay attention to the people, only religous ideals or money.