Elite power list for anyone that feels we are losing against the NWO

reply to post by br0oce



Money is a problem but getting rid of the banking system is not the solution overall.

I have heard people on this site mention bank runs, burning money, nationalising banks and abandoning the Federal Reserve etc.

This would only lead to a new currency all over again as the other points of power would still be there that give money power.

I am looking for the achillies heel if you like but what I am trying to do is prove beyond a doubt by completing a process that gives you all of the puzzle not just the answer.

It is far to easy to point the finger without backing it up.

At the end of this long topic I aim to try and create a list of all the different power points, descriptions of each and have all in order of power.

I am hoping that this will give way to the solution. I will do my best to stick to this thread topic as it is in danger of going off in a different direction.

In the meantime feel free to add anything of importance to the list and suggest changes. (Everyone)

Cheers



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If anything they do it though Oil and with Oil. Our life depends on it. I depend on it to get to work. If they are using oil to control us it is the leash that is connected to our collar. What ever the next energy source, the NWO will try to grab that source. This is the reason why there are no ideal's except from Al Gore to de-centralized the power grid. But due to media outlets like this one, I doubt that they'll succeed at all.

reply to post by sirbikesalot06


Excellent

Control of our energy resources and suppression of alternative energy.

Thanks for the reply

Cheers

well guys, as we all know the money is information. information is created by them and they give a bits of it to us in the way to push us this direction they want. you are not going to change it. the money system? they are going to make it collapse now! we do not have to help them. they want it to happen. they will earn on this and the next system they will create will be the global one. it will bring the NWO!!!!

all we could do is a revolution. but really a worldwide revolution changing everything we know. the problem is that they control media so it will be hard to show the others that it is the only solution. and they control us by spying as we tolk, write or even think, so at any time they can just delate us if we would be any danger to them.

I am starting to belive that the only hope is God, who will decide all of it to stop. maybe by some global catastrophy or something same powerfull.

but not to finish in that mood I really belive that we should try to do something even without much chances for success at the end. it needs a lot of work. a lot of information each of us would have to share with as many as possible.

and than a lot of praying for some part of those to come and stand by us when the time comes...

and you have a flag and star from me. it is important to tolk about it.

take care OP

I know that this will be covered under the general list, which is very well thought and impressive, but for years I've thought there were 3 main things that contributed to our loss of power, and all the others are all mains to me too, thanks to ATS. I knew that they had complete control of the media and we needed a free press, free exchange of information. Online is good, but many people only value newsprint and television for their world affairs. Second, all business is an illegal monopoly mascarading as a free enterprise, (which by its nature would mean buying from each other and this would create a lot more wealth being naturally distributed. We could then chose to be socialistic and community oriented as we wished, because we wouldn't be supporting their big business's and their patents any longer.

It is hard to even get a market or a store that will buy a locally made product, and only a few towns have year round farmer markets. In addition, the regulations governing, say making your own food product involve owning a hefty amount of equipment and mean average people won't get started without tons of assets and tons of debt. I knew we needed to pool resources and get shared equipment for many to lease (when profit was made, and not until). We needed to support each other and act intelligently and cooperatively to turn this around. Our dollars were shrinking, and yet the little we have is directly supporting our dictators.

Third, as all businesses are owned, keeping us in debt, all housing is directly controlled and land usage and many live on the fringe of homelessness, without the ability to settle where they please. And the fact is, they don't own it and cannot tell us what to do. The land is all of ours.
This is the hard part because, we could walk out and form the Venus Project like, moneyless resource societies except they'd send the army in to destroy any settlements people form.
Lastly, they have made law and punishment. And terrorize us with wars, murder, and injustices numerously.

In short, some can walk out completely and hide, and try to live this way without health benefits which would be terrifying (think childbirth and childhood injuries amongst many things). But this would take a really big concerted effort. In other words, more have to wake up to coordinate some possible actions that would disempower them, but also, create enough of us, that they can't win in trying to force us back.

Excellent thread.

I've studied their doings for quite some time...and it seems very strongly rooted in the suppression of an individuals spiritual growth and true power.

Their very first control point is history. Not money, not technology, but history. The main thing they possess that most common man does not, is knowledge. All of these things, money, education, religion...it is all used to keep you ignorant. If history was not tainted, believe me when I say, things would look and probably be very different now.

A lot of these groups have strong beliefs in Luciferianism and practice it to some degree. That by itself, says a lot.

Money is used to keep us where they want us...in their power. Education, or lack thereof, is used to keep us thinking that we need them to sustain ourselves. To keep us thinking that we need their money and to hinder our spiritual growth. Media and education go hand in hand. They serve the same purpose...it's just teaching sheep when they're out of school.

The things we must do, so that we can reach our true potential, are;
1: Truly educate ourselves and others. To open each others' minds and question what we thought we already knew.
2: Identifying who are the people that have shackles humanity, and removing them from humanity. This is easier said than done of course, but you cannot resolve a problem if what you're doing does not tackle the root of the problem. And the root of the problem is a lack knowledge/enlightenment and the people who are against the knowledge.
3: Find another medium to be used as money, barter seems to be the most practical & self sustaining at the moment.

Number 2 is particularly important in this fight, because...you cannot take over the media...you cannot teach the truth in schools and out of schools. You cannot tackle political and government corruption. You cannot do any of those things if the people who control those things are still part of the system. It'll be like treating AIDS, and not killing the virus itself. The virus is what needs to be taken out...not treated, or else the solutions will only last for so long.

i would think under your technology part i would say that paitients play large role in thing not coming in to help us as a social humanity. my suggestion is to just stop getting patients and just give away our inventions or technology.

by the way awsome thread this will be one of thoughs books for future generations.

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What about the pharmaceutical industry.

Not only does that profit from needless medicines and placebos. It creates more illness and dis-ease among the people, it is inter linked with most categories in the list. A core part of 'their' plan.

Originally posted by sdrawkcabII
Excellent thread.

Their very first control point is history. Not money, not technology, but history. The main thing they possess that most common man does not, is knowledge. All of these things, money, education, religion...it is all used to keep you ignorant. If history was not tainted, believe me when I say, things would look and probably be very different now.

Good point i covered this with education but ill note these points from everyone when it comes to details about all of the points made in the list so please do not think I am ignoring replies in some cases I am noting them for use shortly

You cannot do any of those things if the people who control those things are still part of the system. It'll be like treating AIDS, and not killing the virus itself. The virus is what needs to be taken out...not treated, or else the solutions will only last for so long.

Your quote although it has a completely different meaning actually has me thinking of regulations in the first place or lack of regulations in some sectors like banking. I used to work as a scientist pre clinical trials and a lot of pharmacuetical regulations are in place that seem to deliberately stop or slow the release of cures, treatments and theories.

I think control of Regulations should be another one that I will add to the list as well.

I am actually getting pretty excited about this thread now because I think we are going to find that we knew all along what we should be doing but we never sat down and had a proper look at the facts in the correct way.

Cheers



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reply to post by The 5th


Well spotted, I was typing this as you were regarding regulation control

Beat me to it slightly



[edit on 11-11-2008 by XXXN3O]

To sum it up... They control us through JOBS. Take away the jobs and now you rely on the very culprit that controls everything on your list.

Self-sufficiency regarding life-essentials is going to be crucial going forward.

If you have an Amish relative, now may be a good time to re-connect to those who understand the fundamentals of bare minimum.

Another angle, a bit more scientific, is to research the Sun's affects on life consciousness.

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If I was going to patent anything, I'd quickly find a form that was like open source code, that would be a people's patent. It would free the technology to the world and yes, the down side is you'd have competitors for products. But, if the product was really critical, they couldn't bury it, buy you off, and threatening your life or your families would be useless. But an ideal world is one without patents, all knowledge would be shared, though the inventors would be appreciated and respected.

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I think creating a list of root problems is great, however, what good is the list if we will do nothing about it? Talking on all of those problems will be too great of a burden for any one group.

Just like the link that XXXN3O posted at the beginning of the thread, a lot of people agree that once you admit that we are being controlled, know one knows what to do next.

Zeitgeist addendum told us to get rid of our BofA accounts, but that will just cause a dent in their armor. Also, getting rid of the monetary system will take decades, because people are not ready for such a drastic change.

So then, what do we do?

We have to start off small and take baby steps. Here's a list of things that must change in order to actually make a difference.

1. Get rid of Fluoride in the water supply.
2. Change the American diet to raise vibration levels.
3. Gold Standard or a True U.S. Currency
4. Get rid of the F3d
5. Get rid of income taxes
6. Take steps towards getting rid of the monetary system.

1. FLUORIDE
This will be the easiest thing to start a movement against because there is a lot of research out there that says fluoride is actually dangerous. Check out
www.fluoridedangers.blogspot.com...
for more info.

2. AMERICAN DIET

If you’re an American, you have an 80-90% chance of dying from heart disease or cancer. It’s a safe bet you’ll die from one or the other, and there’s a good chance you’ll get both of these.

- Steve Pavlina
The way American's eat processed and chemically burdened food lowers our vibration levels and increases risks of health problems. Steve Pavlina puts it best in this article www.stevepavlina.com...
Steve has already been able to increase his vibration levels to seeing ghosts and having extra awareness and sympathy of his wife and friends.

If we take the people who were willing to support an anti-fluoride movement, then we can surely get people to back a change in the American diet.

3. GOLD STANDARD or GREENBACKS
Even though the ultimate goal should be to get rid of the monetary system, we have to take baby steps towards that direction. The reason the F3d can print all the money they want is because we got off the gold standard. I know going back to the Gold Standard may be complicated as hell, but then we can surely create a true U.S. currency not backed by the F3d, essentially getting rid of our debt.

Once we've changed the American diet, getting people to realize how we're being controlled by money would be the next step.

4. F3D
Once we're back on the gold standard, or on a true U.S. currency that doesn't have inherent debt, then there is no use for a central bank. 'Nuff said.

5. INCOME TAXES
Once the F3d is gone, no need for income taxes to pay the debt owed to the F3d. Problem Solved.

6. ANTI-MONETARY SYSTEM
At best, this will take decades to accomplish, at worst centuries. Once we've raised the vibration levels of Americans through diet, and once people get rid of the F3d and income taxes, then "They" would have surely lost a lot of influential power.

The next step will frighten people, and make many lose interest. But getting rid of money will solve a lot of the worlds problems. Jumping from a monetary system to non-monetary system will be hard. We need something that will help transition the weak-minded towards something like THE VENUS PROJECT. I have thought of a way that could replace money and still help the transition towards getting rid of money, but I would like to hear your suggestions.

Critic and suggestions are very much welcome. This thread made me finally sign up and post something on ATS. I await your feedback. Thanks.

reply to post by Karlhungis


I bleive this is a fine start though. Im not much of a bargoer, but having those conversations at bars is very important.

A wise man used to tell me that back in the day, no1 did anything BUT talk about politics at bars.

How about this..
start staging these conversations, and go out andhave them at bars. Don't try it at clubs or anything, they are way too oblivious and looking for girls (sorry if i offend any female members, just trying to help the cause) but at the other bars where people are just hanging around, haev a conversation that is designed to draw people in, explain just enough to pique their curiousity and, whatever your do, DONT GO TO FAR WITH IT. let their curiousity carry them. refer them to ATS. tell them its a "cool site." Then, go back to a convo on something else. The human brain can only handle so much at a time. In time, you can bounce between multiple bars, have 10 issues that you've talked about, and maybe start a lil "fanclub" refer then to causes like restoer the republic, abolishing the fed, tell tehm to start bartering and avoiding taxes etc.

All in due time people. the moment you ahve a neg attitude all is lost. Id like to refer everyone to the shards of the illumanti link, its the real deal.

THanks all. We in it for the long run. High vibrations!

reply to post by sirbikesalot06


great post. getting off the powergird will be hard, but people, go back to blankets during the winter and opening windows in the summer. totally sucks i know. But idk, we gotta mentally program people to get off this stuff. IF they are cold and want heat call them a.... "wussie" and slowly lead them through behavior rsponse to love to toughen up.

Has anyone read MInd of Mystery" books? he teaches how to get laid through kinda having the girl if she reacts positvely to your inticing her for sex to "reward her" through more attention, indicators of interest etc. Its compicated, but i suggest the book. The point of this phrase is that lets, as a group of the 120k ATSers, to take these things Elite controls and start "socially programming" people agaisnt their controls, which, if you truely believe its good for them, will be freeing them.

Also guys, thinka bout your job commute. Im looking for a job within 5 miles, so a bkeride wouldnt be too bad. I know its crazy, specially you older guys over 40, but like accountants, there are jobs for you EVERYWHERE, take a job around the blocka nd ride a F*cking bike! I sleep over peoples dorms in college all the time to save gas, and people love the company!

people are changing , lets do this!

These guys have power because we give them power. If they did not have money they would be insignificant like any of us here.

Why did we give them power in the first place?
Friendship?
A few speeches?
Race?

reply to post by XXXN3O


while an admirable attempt at listing what needs to be taken control of in order to subvert the NWO plans, it won't be enough until we find out who the true leaders (not the instituted puppets) of these organizations are and they are removed permanently from power. What we need are names and pictures of these leaders and subvert them. If they are not removed or subverted, they will simply grown another tentacle and put another puppet in place.

reply to post by Karlhungis


I agree, money seems to be the backbone of everything right now, we are seeing that.

We need to develop a new system, one that works. I personally believe the only ones who can develop that new system, are the ones who support it.

However, sometimes I've wondered if the internet is a part of the problem as well.

reply to post by Question


They will replace the leaders anyway. They are us. Elitism is a human psychological process, if we completely killed all the current elitist powerplayers we, if nothing else was done, would find ourselves in a similar predicament well within a century, possibly within half a century due to the acceleration of history. Our economic processes centralize wealth and our culture values it.

No, what we need to do, and sorry for tooting my own horn again, is to first rework our ideas. Some have said it's our history. Some have said it's our education. It's all that. It's our culture. As Terrence Mckenna once said "culture is not your friend". Once we learn to think different we will act different, and if we act our of the behaviour patterns the elite want us in, try and program us to be in, they will be screwed.

It's little things. Being debt averse. Dislike of centralized government. Loyalty to family, friends, environment, people, region, country, world, government. In that order. The willingness to fight to defends one home, the absolute rejection of fighting to defend a flag. The awareness of the potential of nature vrs what our limited technology offers. The search for truth and knowledge. The urge to always question, to always double check. The knowledge of the relative unimportance of money. Once most people fall into these behaviour patterns the NWO system will fold. It's a con. A deck of cards. It's only dangerous because people think the way elites want them to. But, in a very short time, that could change.

So whatever people do, they must never be silent. This is a revolution of the mind, not a violent clash. Just avoid the shock police in the meantime. They are irrelevant.

1st: Change culture. The rest will follow.