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Topic started on 10-11-2008 @ 02:15 PM by sovietman

Hey there!!

I'd like to know as much as possible on super advanced (a.k.a. exotic) propulsion systems. I did make a search and found no such thread. I'm most interested in the stage of development of each system, it's possible uses, how it works...
I don't know much about such systems, but I'd like to

Now to define such advanced propulsion systems. Those include already tested technologies like ramjet, scramjet and PDE (PWDE) (i know a bit about those engines) and also the exotic propulsion systems like laser and plasma propulsion systems (i'm not sure whether that's the same or not), anti-gravity (if it's possible in some way) and more......

Pictures appreciated.

reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:23 PM by jay.mo

no ones probably going to tell you about an advanced propulsion system because if they are working in it they might not people stealing it. just to say or whatever

reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:26 PM by sovietman

I didn't expect anybody who works on any black project to tell me classified information. I'd just like to seize the extensive knowledge the ATS has....

Greets

reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:33 PM by jay.mo

word on that, black being classified by the way

reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:36 PM by chapter29

reply to post by sovietman

I did make a search and found no such thread.

So ya searched, huh..?

reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 03:18 PM by jay.mo

thanks for the thread ruiner

reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 05:10 PM by Anonymous ATS

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Research the Russian Ajax Program and them google "Jean Pierre Petit". Helps if you speak french. He has done quite a lot of research about using MHD drives for high altitude high speed propulsion.

There is a lot of activity going on with this technology.

www.flightglobal.com...

www.mhdprospects.com...
www.savoir-sans-frontieres.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hope this helps.
Tony

reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 06:37 PM by Scramjet76

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Hey there, I can tell you a bit about scramjets! Here is an old thread I did about scramjets way back when.

The problem with scramjets is their ineffectiveness below Mach 4-5. Unfortunately converting a plane to a hybrid is easier said than done. Adding parts is adding weight and defeating the simplicity of scramjet design.

As far as I know laser propulsion has been theorized for space travel. I think it's kind of like a solar sail except it gets its energy from a ground laser instead of the sun. The acceleration is slow but steady and there is no need to carry fuel aboard the craft.

There are several different types of plasma propulsion engines. They are similar to a rocket in that the propellant must be carried onboard the ship. Although less powerful, they are more effiecient than a rocket.

I'm not sure any of these have moved past the prototype testing stage. Scientists are still trying to get a handle on which one would be best for a specific purpose. I.e. A scramjet won't be used to get to Mars but a Laser Sail might!

reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 06:01 AM by sovietman

Originally posted by chapter29
reply to post by sovietman

I did make a search and found no such thread.

So ya searched, huh..?

Yes I did and got the same results as you did. And I can't see any other thread than mine talking about advanced (exotic) propulsion systems in general

And thanks scramjet76 for you thread. Does anybody know much on PDEs, because they seem promising, since they have better efficencies than rockets, need no oxygen in atmosphere and are useful for vacuum use as well...

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