Be careful of giving 'gift cards' this year . . ., page 2
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reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 10:17 PM by Rockpuck
reply to post by stander



Makes the room more lively and festive with the lil squirrels running around. Especially if you put lil elf suits and dresses on them! .. and train them to sing! .. or was that a chipmunk? .. Whatever.

Bottom line, if you get a gift card for a Siberian Tree, make sure you know your land usage rights, mineral rights, and rights to game!


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 11:37 PM by stander
reply to post by greeneyedleo


I love gift cards too.
This one is from Siberia & Tunguska. They make chainsaws.


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 03:10 PM by anachryon
Holy crap!!

Financial Times

The new General Counsel’s Opinion No. 8 addresses the issue of whether the funds underlying stored value cards and other nontraditional access mechanisms qualify as "deposits" as defined in the Federal Deposit Insurance Act.
Under the new opinion, the funds will be “deposits” to the extent that the funds have been placed at an insured depository institution. Consequently, the funds will be subject to assessments. Also, the funds will be insured (up to the insurance limit).
In applying the insurance limit to a pooled custodial account, the FDIC will recognize the holders of the stored value cards (or other access mechanisms) as the owners of the deposits if the FDIC’s standard requirements for “pass-through” insurance coverage have been satisfied. Otherwise, the card distributor or other named accountholder will be recognized as the owner.


Freaking GIFT CARDS are now insured as deposits by the FDIC - up to the $250k limit!!!!
Seriously. Here is the Fed's definition of "stored value cards" and here is the report from the Fed. The important bit is down towards the bottom of the page where they say "Under the new opinion, all funds underlying stored value products will be treated as "deposits" to the extent that the funds have been placed at an insured depository institution."

So when retailers go bust, the FDIC will be there to cover any funds in gift cards and such because it's assumed that the retailer deposited the money you paid for the gift card into an insured bank. In other words - you buy your Mom a $50 gift card to Bath & Body Works, B&BW deposits that $50 into their bank account, and as such the gift card funds are insured.

No more need to be careful of giving gift cards this year.

Who's paying for this additional FDIC coverage, you may be asking?
Thanks to the bailout, it sure ain't banks. I guess that leaves only one group of people on the hook. You guess who that is.

[edit on 11/13/2008 by anachryon]


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 03:17 PM by nixie_nox
reply to post by Enigma Publius



I understand that. Not everyone is in that situation. I have seen towns that Wal-Mart have taken over and that is people's only option.

But not everyone is in that position. And you do have access to the net

A lot of retailers this year are going to be giving free shipping, I can gaurentee. And many will give free shipping over a certain amount. Even a smaller retailer is better then a big gun.


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 03:28 PM by scientist
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to
post by Enigma Publius



I think Walmart is one of the reasons that the economy doesn't do so well. The last thing we need is for everyone to spend at a store that uses child labor and imports cheap products from China.


I'd give you 1000000 stars if I could for that. I cringed when I read someone's advice to buy walmart gift cards. I feel like dying now.
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