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reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 09:04 AM by 44soulslayer
reply to post by BlueTriangle



Actually I meant exactly what I said.

I do think that its racist, but in the end there's not a lot I can do about it. I support the right of white supremacists to vote for whoever they like. If they choose to shun Obama because he is black, so be it.

Isn't that the premise of democracy? Let each man choose as per his own will. Its not my place, nor society's place to try and impose a moral directive on any person's choice.

I guess what Im trying to say is that just as there are a few people who will vote for Obama just because he is black, there are also a few that will not vote for him because he is black.

I dont think I have contradicted myself; my position is just somewhat unusual. Let me state categorically my position:

1. A significant number of blacks voted for Obama just because he was black
2. Democracy entitles each man to his view, no matter how bigoted (either way) it may be.
3. While I disagree vehemently with the agenda of both black supremacist and white supremacist ideologies, they are well within their rights to vote for whoever they want. Its only "not OK" in my mind, but who am I to stop and lecture people about who to vote for, or what is moral?

I dont approve of racism, but I have no control over it. What can I do- go and change the mentality of racists?! I guess this stems from my distrust of the "one man, one vote" form of democracy. The vote of a careful, prudent, considerate and educated man can be outvoted by two racist morons. Until and unless the "one man, one vote" system changes, each person must be allowed space for their own views, no matter how disgusting they are to the rest of us.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 09:55 AM by jibeho
reply to post by dbates



Thanks for the voice of reason.

We're pretty sure Obama is not gay.

He is definitely not Jewish.

He is definitely mulatto. How did the mulatto population vote?

Muslim? Another topic altogether.

What is the point behind this incessant argument?


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 11:15 AM by SailorinAZ
reply to post by GamerGal



You are delusional if you think most blacks did not vote for Obama just because he is also black (BTW he is equally black as he is white and should not be referred to as black or African American) Blacks voted in record numbers this time.

Most Hispanics voted for Obama because most Hispanics don't like whites and just want to see a non-white president. They also feel that McCain turned his back on them. In addition, they just believed what ever they were told.

I never understood why most Jews are liberals seeing as how the Republicans are such strong defenders of Israel.

Most gays always vote Democrat because the parties ideas closely match their own and gives gays a better chance at gay marriage.

People should just vote for someone that they think will do a better job. They should never vote for someone based on skin color. NEVER!

What is really crazy is:
Everything that Obama screws up during the next 4 years will be blamed on Bush even though the Congress has already been controlled by the Dems for 2 years.


reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 08:32 AM by GamerGal
reply to post by xDove007



Maybe I should edit the Original Post to point out that this is NOT me saying Obama is a Gay Black Jewish Muslim Hispanic Woman but pointing out that the Republicans claim he is, by the logic they use. They say the only reason blacks voted for him was because he was black, even though he BARELY beat Clinton, a white man. So by that logic, the only reason more women, gays, Jews, so forth voted for Obama is because he is also gay, Jewish, a woman, so forth. But even with this "logic" being ridiculed they STILL claim it.



reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 12:45 PM by Anonymous ATS
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this pretty much put the OP to shame.. yeah blacks voted for him because hes black!


reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 03:23 PM by sos37
Originally posted by GamerGal
On here all you hear from the Republicans is "The only reason they voted for Obama is because he's black!" Well, guess what? The majority of Gays also voted for Obama. I guess they only voted for him because he's gay. And wait, the majority of Hispanics voted for him to! I guess they only voted for him because he's Hispanic. Oh, and so did the Jews and Muslims... As did women! So, if we use Republican logic, Obama is a Gay Black Jewish Muslim Hispanic Woman. Or MAYBE the Blacks, gays, Jews, so forth voted for him because of his message of hope, tax cuts to middle class, ending of Iraq, not starting a new one with Iran or Syria, so forth.


Your argument is flawed. Obama is very clearly black. You can see it and thus it can be proven.

He is also very clearly not gay as he has a wife and two children.
He is also clearly not Hispanic.
He says he is not Muslim, but Christian so he is very clearly not Muslim.

I agree with Blue Triangle that some black voters voted for Obama because of his skin color, but it doesn't make sense for all of them to have.

If you really want put the issue to rest, refer to the Army Times military poll. For 2008 it said that 12% of blacks supported McCain and 79% supported Obama. So go and find the Army Times poll for the 2000 and 2004 elections, by racial breakdown and find out whom military blacks supported then.

I do find it odd that Military hispanics supported McCain over Obama, yet Military blacks didn't, so did military blacks support the GOP in previous elections?

If the answer is yes, then I think you can show there to be some significant racial bias. If the answer is no, then the answer is that military blacks commonly buck supporting the trend of supporting the GOP.

Here's the PDF from the Military Times on the Army Times poll.

link to PDF


Fixed link


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reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 03:31 PM by gordonwest
reply to post by GamerGal





I am trying to show the BS of the "They only voted for him because he's black!


Maybe you are having one of those "blonde moments", because you have NOT shown the BS or EVIDENCE.
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