G20 meeting looks for overhaul of global financial architecture

The crisis proved it’s time to dump the Group of Seven and embrace the Group of 20 as the main global economic policymaker.

That’s according to Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva who addressed the G20 finance leaders on Saturday.

"This is a global crisis and it demands global solutions. This is the moment to formulate proposals for a substantial change of the world's financial architecture."

And the proposals have poured in. Russia’s Finance Minister Aleksey Kudrin says Russia alone made several suggestions of how to change the system:

"We have discussed the possibility of something similar to the Maastricht Treaty, but on a global level. Also, we proposed the creation of new regulatory bodies, and making sure that following their rules and regulations is mandatory for all countries. It would prevent future crises."

www.russiatoday.com...

i really don't like the sound of this...

i think this relates to the other thread i just started here, too:
"History in the making" - G20 to discuss "new global currency"

reply to post by adrenochrome


Well, I said a few weeks back in a couple threads that the PTB were going to try and bypass the North American Currency phase and try to jump straight to a global currency. Although this seems that they are speaking on a global regulatory system instead of one currency it still looks to be the first (or final) step.

Will be interesting to see. It will also be interesting to see just how long people will sit idly by too.

Wont happen anytime soon. Currency value is also based on GNP of a nation, thus you cannot stamp a standard value on a particular commodity that satisfies the entire world.

If that were possible, for example, the cost of a gallon of gas would be consistant and the same at every single gas station all over the world.

Cheers!!!!

i had thought a thread was already started about this, but apparently it's from October 11, 2008...
G20 2008 Plans - Emergency Meeting, 11.10.08

the meeting i'm intersted in is the one that starts November 15...

So, for instance, the problem is that we're going to have a G-20 meeting to discuss global financial architecture in Washington (on Nov. 15), but the leadership is a president that nobody respects. It's very difficult ... and a secretary of the Treasury that most people don't respect.

www.asahi.com...

In my humble opinion, based on what we've seen from the financial 'leaders' throughout the world, this 'conference' would more aptly be named . . . .

How cand we put the remaining few dollars out there in our supporters' pockets before the whole damn thing collapses.

Based on the 'help' doled out to banks, insurance companies, selected industrial interests and investors, it appears there is little to no interest outside of a whack of lip service to providing assistance to us 'commoners' who don't have the resources to buy a vote or two.

These 'leaders' will do what is necessary to feather their own nests and assure the bank accounts of their own are secured far before they give two runny pigeon turds about us.

"Ian McLean" posted this over at my other thread:

Originally posted by Ian McLean
reply to post by adrenochrome

 

Yea special meeting Nov 15th, but they just finished up their annual two-day meeting. Here's a communique:

www.bloomberg.com...

We welcomed that the Heads of G-20 countries will convene for a Leaders´ Summit on Financial Markets and the World Economy to be held on 15 November 2008 in Washington, noting that the global crisis requires global solutions and a common set of principles and that the forthcoming summit is an important step in enhancing international cooperation. We stand ready to urgently take forward work and actions agreed by our leaders to restore and maintain financial stability and support global growth.

A strange side-note:

We should ensure that all sectors of the financial industry, as appropriate, are regulated or subjected to oversight. We agreed that it is important to address the issue of pro-cyclicality in financial market regulations and supervisory systems.

What's 'pro-cyclicality'?

thanks man!

What's 'pro-cyclicality'?

Secret code word for We'll screw your eyes right out of their sockets while slurping every dollar you have out of your savings, wallet and old Vlasic Pickle jar burried by the old oak tree which is where we'll leave you hanging if you dare have the audacity to speak out against us.

reply to post by GoalPoster


Oh. I was thinking that 'pro-cyclicality' meant: "And we want to find a way to do that over and over and over again."

When SHTF they will have a save for the bankers (ahem) oh sorry.. people of the world.

Lula is an ignorant, prob a puppet of any corp. His family went to middle class to rich in his eight years of office.

Politics is a anger-inducing matter, as does not resolve anything and its roots over the monetary system are so corrupting that makes nulify my
vote almost instantly.

Negotiators agreed on a final declaration Saturday morning during the first-ever summit of the Group of 20 (G20) nations in Washington. Leaders will sign off on the agreement later Saturday, promising to close all gaps in financial regulation.

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Speaking ahead of the meeting, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the G20 summit marked a "new beginning" for international cooperation and would ensure that "all market participants, all products and all markets will be truly monitored and regulated."

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Global stocks have been decimated by the financial turmoil that was triggered by a meltdown in the US mortgage market but has since spread to all corners of the globe.

European leaders have sought a major overhaul of global regulations to prevent financial firms from taking the kinds of excessive risks that sparked the sector's collapse, while developing countries are looking to contain the fallout from the crisis that began in advanced economies.

Leaders are also likely to instruct the World Bank to beef up its lending to developing countries, some of which are facing critical cash shortfalls.

www.dw-world.de...

i wonder what kind of plan they have in store for us??

we'll find out later i suppose...

"Laissez-faire is finished, the all-powerful market that is always right, that's finished," French President Nicholas Sarkozy said last month.

As a result, it is "necessary to rebuild the entire global financial and monetary system from the bottom up, the way it was done at Bretton Woods after World War II."

Sarkozy's history is a bit off. The Bretton Woods Agreements were actually signed in July 1944, when German troops still occupied Paris.

Europeans seem positively giddy about this weekend's meeting in Washington, where they hope to impose a new world economic order like the one Americans imposed in 1944. We "must have a new Bretton Woods – building a new financial architecture for the years ahead," says Gordon Brown, who is surely aware the first Bretton Woods was a British humiliation, with London yielding place and submitting to Washington's dictation.

...from "New world order? Good luck"

also, i've been keeping this other thread up-to-date about Gordon Brown and the G20 summit:
Brown jockeys for position to head G20 summit

[edit on 15-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

Just came across this posted on another site.

Many developing countries blame the crisis on the G7 – consisting of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK and the US. They also put equal blame on the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank, key allies in what is often called the "Washington Consensus" – the shared values of institutions from the rich "north" who have, for more than 50 years, dictated global economic policy from a clear Western perspective.

english.aljazeera.net...

Makes for some interesting reading no.

...The tasks include strengthening transparency and accountability, enhancing sound regulation, promoting integrity in financial markets, reinforcing international cooperation, and reforming international financial institutions.

The leaders task their finance ministers with ensuring that the measures are "fully and vigorously implemented."

"They are responsible for the development and implementation of these recommendations drawing on the ongoing work of relevant bodies, including the IMF (International Monetary Fund), an expanded Financial Stability Forum (FSF), and standard setting bodies," the action plan said.

Immediate actions, which are to be taken before March 31, 2009,include addressing weaknesses in accounting and disclosure standards, developing recommendations to mitigate pro-cyclicality, enhancing the standards of credit rating agencies, and enhancing guidance to strengthen banks' risk management practices.

They also include enhancing regulatory cooperation between jurisdictions internationally and regionally, establishing "supervisory colleges for all major cross-border financial institutions, steps necessary to strengthen cross-border crisis management arrangements, and the expansion of the FSF "to a broader membership of emerging economies."

G20 summit adopts action plan to implement principles of financial reform

i'll keep digging up info as soon as it becomes available!

The official said leaders are close to giving their approval to the draft statement. He declined to be identified before the text is formally adopted.

The text is divided into two parts. A five-page document of principles calls for intensified government efforts at bolstering national economies, cooperation on international regulation of the financial system, reform of global structures to aide needy developing countries and a refusal of protectionism, the official said.

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"We pledge.... to ensure that all financial markets, products and participants are regulated or subject to oversight," the draft document says, according to the official.

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A second five-page document, called an "action plan" looks at measures intended to improve transparency and responsibility, improve regulation, improve the trustworthiness of markets, strengthen international cooperation and reform international institutions, the official said.

G20 source: leaders to agree on action plan

...more to come!

[edit on 15-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

To go along with this topic, I just posted a thread regarding the Single Global Currency Assn urging the G20 to consider pushing a Global Monetary Union. My thread includes an article relating to it as well as a link to the Assn web page.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Bush Welcomes World Leaders to Washington

"Leaders at this summit agreed on some other matters of importance. One is to reject protectionism and refrain from erecting new trade barriers. This is a very important part of this summit," said Bush.

"All this is an important first step, in other words, this is a beginning of a series of meetings," he added.

Described himself as free-market man, Bush also reiterated his free-market principle at the conference, saying "whatever we do, whatever reforms are recommended, we need to be guided by this simple fact: that the best way to solve our problems and solve the people's problems is for there to be economic growth. And the surest path to that growth is free-market capitalism."

news.xinhuanet.com...

Amongst the aims the summiteers pledged to achieve was a reform of the world's international institutions.

They include the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund - both of which, it was agreed, needed to be revitalised and refinanced to meet the challenges of the global age.

The G20 also pledged more regulation and transparency of banks and finance houses, including cross border co-operation to monitor multi national banks.

news.sky.com...

WASHINGTON - NOVEMBER 15: G20 leaders (L-R-back row) Financial Stability Forum Chairman Mario Draghi, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Spain President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, Turkey Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso, World Bank President Robert Zoellick, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn, (L-R-front row) Netherland Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, Mexican President Felipe Calderon Hinojosa, Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, U.S. President George W. Bush, Chinese President Hu Jintao, King of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Abdullah bin Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, South Korean President Lee Myung-bak and South African President Kgalema Motlanthe pose for group photo at the Summit on Financial Markets and the World Economy at the National Building Museum on November 15, 2008 in Washington, DC. Twenty world leaders are gathered at the summit to address problems currently impacting the global economies. The day of negotiations is the largest meeting of world leaders in Washington in nearly a decade. Getty Images

"the global age"?!

since when was this a global age?! who decides that?!!

[edit on 15-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

EU and French top officials applauded the G20 financial summit concluded on Saturday for four principles that were reached at the meeting.

"I was very happy with the results of summit," said European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso at a post-summit joint press conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy. "It has laid the foundation for the future."

He noted that the best summary on results of the two-day Summit on Financial Market and World Economy was the four principles, including a coordinated and concerted stimulus through the use of budgetary measures to support demand and the increase of financial assistance to emerging and developing countries and a new regulation for financial markets to prevent a similar crisis from happening again.

The other two principles he mentioned are a global economic governance more open to emerging and developing countries for more justice and efficiency and a rejection of protectionism and more openness towards exchanges.

news.xinhuanet.com...

didn't the Federal Reserve lay a "foundation for the future" already?? wasn't it the most detrimental economic scheme of all time?!

why would one build a house on a shaky foundation? shouldn't the foundation be dug up, torn apart, and rebuilt for the house to become stable? why would they patch up the cracked foundation of our economy, only to continue building upon it?!

oh, but that would mean they'd have to admit that the whole financial infrastructure was faulty to begin with... besides, they have to keep the flow of currency trickling into their pockets - without the sheep, how else would a wolf eat??

[edit on 15-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

Reforms to the International Monetary Fund and World Bank will be discussed at the second G20 economic summit next year. Britain, as the G20 leader in 2009 will take a lead in setting the meeting’s agenda.

At a press conference in the immediate aftermath of the summit Mr Brown drew attention to the passage of the communiqué relating to stalled world trade round. A new World Trade Round by the end of the year would help usher in the “open and inclusive form of globalisation” needed to prevent a damaging wave of protectionism, he said.

business.timesonline.co.uk...

so, they're trying to protect us from protectionism, by globalizing the financial system?! this is exactly what we needed, right?

they always seem to know what's "best" for us, don't they...

they sure as hell know what's best for themselves!!

[edit on 15-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

ok, i'm not even going to bother quoting this article, as the headline speaks for itself...

"G-20: Shaping a new world order"

i've been digging up news about G20 all week, and hardly anyone seems to care!

i wonder why...

...seriously - i haven't a clue as to why no one seems interested in the single largest meeting of world leaders in a decade!!

any thoughts? anyone??

EDIT: here's another in-depth article explaining what happened today, and what types of actions they're going to take, including specifically, "a series of steps for regulation, monetary and fiscal policy aimed at stabilizing markets.":
"G-20 declaration on financial crisis"

[edit on 15-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

G-20 Top Ten Accomplishments

10: President Bush said "There was a common understanding that all of us should promote a pro-growth economic policy."

09: U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown said "there is a clear determination on the part of world leaders in every continent to take necessary action to move economies out of this difficult period."

08: The group agreed to not cap executive pay.

07: The group sang the praises of low interest rates.

06: The group will work on recommendations for enhancing disclosure while hinting it would allow the continuation of mark to fantasy accounting.

05: The group called for rating agencies to be registered even though rating agencies in the US are already sponsored by the SEC.

04: The group called for the creation of "supervisory colleges" who will not do anything thing but receive outrageous pay for sharing information one can easily find on Bloomberg.

03: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, South Korea, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and Turkey complained "the group of friends" otherwise known as the G-8 would not let them in whenever the G-8 got together to party. The above listed countries are saying to the G-8 "please don't throw a party without us."

02: The all inclusive group of 20 friends agreed to throw another party in April.

01: Drum roll please..... The number one accomplishment of the G20 meeting was to blame hedge funds and the buyers (not sellers) of poison apples for the financial crisis.

So, not a damn thing was accomplished except to call another meeting while dining in style. Pfft, quinoa risotto is so 2007; what was Laura thinking using it on the menu??