Is Barrack Obama a communist?

reply to post by Clearskies

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" Is Barrack Obama a communist? "



Is the Pope Catholic?

I've been saying he was a Socialist/Communist for a long time, to the chagrin of those with blinders on.

But don't fret, I believe it is Gods judgment, so there is not much to be done.

It's a hard thing, to see your country slide down the slippery slope that it has for oh so long, knowing it's going to get worse and worse before a fraud comes along to "fix" things...at least temporarily. Is this the one, is it going to be that soon? I don't know. All I can do is watch in horror, and hang on to my hat.

This guy was hand picked ahead of time, just like the others were. Anyone who was honest with themselves, knew who was gonna win, just from the way the news was spun for him.

I know. I think the ONLY one who wasn't hand picked was Palin.
So, she didn't get away with anything from the media.
Then she was thrown under the 'bus'.

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

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" But have you read about Communism itself? I mean outside of trying to determine if Obama is one or not? Just Communism itself. "

You're making a fatal flaw, by going by the definition. Anyone who has paid attention to this group will tell you, that it [ the movement ] morphs to fit the prevailing winds at the time.

There has been a Communist Capitalist alliance for a very long time, not to mention the support of our enemy the soviet union by us dollars, to give the world and america, "the best enemy money can buy".

Does that horrify you? Do you think I'm insane? Do you think I made all that up?

There's a hidden agenda , but anyone can figure that out, if they really want to know.

What SHOULD be remembered is, they are not believers of a Constitutional Republic, only in keeping up the illusion of having one. They even managed to brainwash the people into believing a democracy was a good thing! Because they know the average American does not really know history or how foul a thing a democracy is. Even if they were confronted with the definition given by a founding father on what a democracy is, they'll ignore the quote and go on believing the lie they currently believe!

James Madison wrote;

" Democracy is the most vile form of government... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. "

There was another one, in a US Army handbook [ circa 1939 ], but I lost the quote which reflected James Madisons comments.


You go ahead and stick with the definition which has to do with rules which those people break all the time, and I'll stick to the facts as I've seen them prove to be, especially the one mentioned by James Madison.

If he's a communist why is he running for a leadership role? The entire premise of the Obama is a communist argument falls apart before it even gets off the ground.

Thank black jebus he's not a communist because if he was, all these people claiming he is would have a say in decision making! They'd run America and everyone associated into the ground with their ignorance faster than wall street can spend their bailout on hookers and blow!

Every time I hear an American talk about communism, I wince and a little part of me dies inside. Please, it hurts

Democratic socialism maybe? Just maybe?

I've lived under it my entire life, I don't see a problem. Certainly nothing to get upset over...

According to Tom Fife he is more than just a communist but a Russian Spy hand picked to bring the USA over to Communism.

www.rense.com...

Yeah its rense.com but interesting none the less.

Communism can take on so many forms, that I don't see anything wrong with him being one if he is. More power to him, and his change we need.

reply to post by toasted

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Toasted if you bothered to read the thread you would know I am a supporter of pure democracy.

Also, if you had read all my posts you would know I only mentioned a quick definition in that post to instigate conversation with Clearskies, not to present my best case ...

If you were familiar with Marx's work you would know he didn't always agree with himself Similar to how Freud deviated from his early work.

As it stands, there is no evidence to suggest Obama is a secret communist, outside of alleged associations. That is a very loose case. I have mostly republican conservative associations... yet I am an anarchist.

reply to post by Clearskies

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If Obama is a communist, then Palin is a Fascist. Going into extremes with stigmatizing labels isnt going to help anybody.

There are huge differences between:

"Im a liberal"
"Im a social democrat"
"Im a socialist"
"Im a communist"

(written in correct order, downscale )

Just as there are huge differences between

"Im a moderate"
"Im a conservative"
"Im a nationalist"
"Im a fascist"

Obama is simply a liberal. Some of his policies are slightly socialist...but not so much that it would be more harmful than if Bush were in power.

Liberals are good people...tolerant, intellectual, open-minded. They are not too bright when it comes to fiscal matters, and they tend to make government too big and be much too PC ("a movie is not allowed to be made, unless it contains a disabled person, a black person and a homosexual"...that type of stuff)...but other than that....4 years of it is just fine.

4 years of Obama will mean less war, less terrorist counter-attacks, better foreign-policy and a bit more poverty for all.

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

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Freud was allegedly a 'coke' addict.
History of cocaine
I think a lot of his psychotherapy is bunk, created by drugs.

reply to post by Skyfloating

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If you had looked at my info (Lots of it that I gathered from VERY un-biased sources), you would be more critical.
I don't claim to know EXACTLY what his influences are, but, I know they are global and PLANNED.

reply to post by Clearskies

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Well, from a conspiracy viewpoint that may be so. But that would then also count for GWBush.

Since you posted this in the politics forum and not the conspiracy forum, I decided to respond from a mainstream perspective.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by Skyfloating]

reply to post by Clearskies

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You are not being unbiased when you completely ignore questions

Oh.
I've written a lot about Bush and the NWO.
I'd even be looking into ron paul, if he were president, wouldn't you?

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

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What question?
Which one?

not sure why that was ultimately relevant, but I would not doubt it at all...

for one he was a physician no?

also, cocaine back then didn't have the social stigma it has now.

My point was simply, that both Marx and Freud's earlier work deviated from itself as they grew older. For better or worse.

reply to post by Clearskies

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Oh many to you On more then one thread, all concerning this accusation Obama is a communist/socialist. I will go grab the ones I was thinking of an post it here

reply to post by Clearskies

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Well...yeah...I would.

c'mon the guy has 2 months before he is even in office, and the right-wing already have him classified, judged, and ready for impeachment
can't you people just settle down a bit? why do you think he won by 8 million votes? the majority of americans don't believe what you say anymore, and we are simply tired of your fear rantings and ravings. actually obama is going to be more middle-of-the road then i think alot of democrats think he will be. and the far left will be more dissappointed then you are. lord knows most of us gave W a break in his entire first year in office. and by the 8th year into his presidency, during the GOP convention, he couldn't even make a personal appearence in his own party's hall.

Obama saying that he wants a redistribution of wealth is straight out of the "Communist Manifesto". How much more proof do you need.

reply to post by seabisquit

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Well for us critically thinking folk; a whole lot more