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reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 01:26 AM by CreeWolf
reply to post by TheOracle


By briefing the President Elect Obama, they are following years of procedure. If it is exposed that he isn't "American" to the standards stated in the Constitution, Obama will probably have to "dissapear" like John F. Kennedy did.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 01:47 AM by Anonymous ATS




reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 01:53 AM by Lucid Lunacy
Originally posted by CreeWolf
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

I understand that you understand what a "Constitution" is. So, you must know that too many changes to it, it is no longer a "Constitution".


I suppose that's what it would mean. The betterment of Society takes precedence above all things. So if changes need to be made then changes need to be made. Please don't call me a liberal, I assure you I am far worse

You are talking about not caring if he is "Kenyan" by birth.


Correct.

You also said you don't care if its exposed that he lied to the American people.


Correct.

I don't believe in this rule. And we force the Candidates to abide by it. So I find it a forgivable lie. Candidates also have to be Christian to have a chance at winning...another forgivable lie if he is in fact lying about it. It wouldn't bother me if we later found out a President had lied about being 35 and was actually 33... I don't believe in these rules so I find these kinds of lies forgivable...as I would understand the reasoning behind the lie to begin with.

I think you might be in the minority.


I have no doubt! I usually am

Scoring high on a "Constitution Test" in school means very little, especially if it came from an Ultra-Lib Californian School District.


Why did you use "" That's what they called it, not me. That was the official name.

So... are you suggesting they altered the Constitution to be ultra-liberal? And then tested all of us on this liberal-modified Constitution?

Anyways, I brought that up because you asked if we even knew what the Constitution was. No other reason.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 01:59 AM by jcheney
images.dailykos.com...
Wow, those watermarks, specifically designed so that they aren't photocoied or scanned in pristine shape, sure look great on this scan!
Don't most birth certificates include the doctor's name?

I'm not trying to add to the conspiracy, but fraudulent documents like these are most definitely an impeachable offense. People might be upset, but you have to respect the laws of this land, or seek change to those laws.

Personally I think between McCain or Obama we are still in a whole lotta trouble. The Bilderberg Group has their hands in both pots.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:04 AM by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by bigvig316


Like I said before, if it is an issue with the People to begin with then it will reflect in the vote.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:12 AM by CreeWolf
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


I understand where you are coming from there. People voting to change a Constitution. It was done in Iowa this election cycle (Iowa's STATE Constitution):

Idiot Clause in Iowa's Constitution--Des Moines Register

Of course, the US Constitution (Amendment X?) gives some power to the individual States?


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:19 AM by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by knows_but_doesnt

See, he was appointed by the powers that be to this position. The election was perfection. Everything was going perfect, everyone in the war room was high fiving each other for months, patting each other on the back. Then, one day, someone brought up the place of birth topic, and the war room went into a tail spin. See, they are stalling because now everything has to be created, gone over a hundred times, people have to either be bought or killed, etc. So, he WILL produce a valid certificate, just give them a little more time to make sure all their bases are fully covered.


Hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaaha!!!!! That was truly priceless. I think I hurt myself on that one.

Ok. Lets just consider that possibility seriously for a moment.

The rumors have been circulating, that I can find with any certainty, about Obama's not being a citizen since AT LEAST June of 2008, and very likely prior to that. However, since I have a reliable source saying June 2008, lets go with that.

urbanlegends.about.com...

Summary: Email rumor claims that Barack Obama is ineligible to become president because according to the laws in effect at the time of his birth he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States.

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: June 2008
Status: False


Are you really trying to tell us that in 6 months time, someone with the backing of some of the richest people in the country who has all these powerful friends who want him in office could not have had the time to get a birth certificate made and paid off the appropriate people by now? And mind you, if he really were not a US citizen, he would have known this at the outset and you dont think he would have taken care of all this waaaaay before now?

C'mon. Say what you like about him. Call him a socialist, accuse him of not being a citizen, call for his impeachment before he even takes office, whatever you need to do to feel real. But do you honestly think the guy is dumb?

Find a more interesting reason to hate him. Since you brought up that this is a conspiracy site, why cant you guys post pictures of him with slitted pupils morphing into a reptile and sucking the blood out of innocent children or something?

I dont really mind that people hate on him, but c'mon guys, get creative and stop beating the dead horses. You can do so much better.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:36 AM by MAINTAL
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by bigvig316


Like I said before, if it is an issue with the People to begin with then it will reflect in the vote.


Now you know why they put it in the Constitution because the founders were aware their are people just like you out there so for them they thought they had better SPELL IT OUT for them


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 02:47 AM by knows_but_doesnt
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


I'm glad you enoyed your little chuckle, I try hard, but only one show a night.

for the record, I don't hate him. Actually, I don't hate anyone, even people that have stolen from me. On Obama, I simply am keeping open eyes and open mind. Do I trust the guy? Right now, absolutely not. He's got everything going for him in the wrong direction for me, and that can be summed up in one word - "Politician"

And really, how many times have you planned something out, and then realized either at the last second, or too late, that you forgot something? We all do it, we all are human, and ANYTHING can happen. Obama's team is no different, they too are human (right? or was that reptile comment you made a clue? lol!)

So, let him show his birth certificate and this will all be a laughing matter. Until then....

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