reply to post by Simulacra
1) Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State - www.kitv.com...
2) Obama's Birth Certificate - www.dailykos.com...
3) Born in the U.S.A. - The truth about Obama's birth certificate. - www.newsweek.com...
1) First, at issue is that Hawaii has a unique law in which a child born outside the US can still get a "certification" of birth from the state of
Hawaii, if his parents are residents of Hawaii--which Obama's parents were. "Certification" of birth and "birth certificate" have unfortunately
been used interchangeably here, clouding the issue.
So even if Obama presents a Hawaiian "birth certificate", technically one needs to see the actual "long" or "vault" certificate in order to
prove where he was actually born. (The "long" form is exactly what it sounds like: a longer, more detailed document that is actually a form, rather
than the online certificate found on dailykos.) In response to Andy Martin's inquiry, the state of Hawaii verified that they had a "birth
certificate" on record for Obama...but they did not say that it showed that he was actually born in Hawaii, rather than in Kenya. And given the
controversy at hand, this is the crucial information to have.
2) The "birth certificate" on kos has been analyzed by at least three professional forensic analysts who indicated that it is a forgery.
Here's a link to one of the forensic analyses; I believe there are links to others here, as well:
Further legal repercussions if in fact the "birth certificate" online is indeed a forgery:
3) Since when did an article in Newsweek constitute compelling evidence admissible in a court of law?
Don't you think that if any of your three "reliable sources" were in fact reliable, that the SCOTUS would have denied the writ of certiorari out of
hand, and dismissed the case?
By the way, SCOTUS stands for "Supreme Court of the United States"--yes, THE Supreme Court. I think you could reliably say that they have some
experience in being able to distinguish fact from fiction. Or rather, let's just say that it wouldn't be wise to try to present the highest court in
the land with a faked birth certificate and try to pass it off as a legitimate one. The Internet is one thing, SCOTUS is quite another.