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Originally posted by pureevil81
reply to post by miriam0566
you are right miriam, this should be common bible knowledge.
unless of course, someone hears their pastor telling them lucifer is satan, amazing how some people just hear something like this and blindly believe it. obviously lucifer is a latin name, yeah, should be 'nuff said.
Originally posted by miriam0566
either way, because satan isnt cast out of heaven until god's kingdom is established, then i would say that satan was caste out sometime in the early 1900's after jesus was anointed king. "woe to the earth" was an understatement, because this century has been like no other.
Originally posted by spy66
I cant see where God is referring to the devil at all. But i know that some people like to think that the snake represent the devil because it makes sense.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Originally posted by spy66
I cant see where God is referring to the devil at all. But i know that some people like to think that the snake represent the devil because it makes sense.
Then why does it make sense?
Originally posted by Haiku
Faith is blind, it is simply guided in diretions by others who have faith... it it weren't some what blind... it wouldn't be faith... it would be fact.
Originally posted by pureevil81
you are right miriam, this should be common bible knowledge.
unless of course, someone hears their pastor telling them lucifer is satan, amazing how some people just hear something like this and blindly believe it. obviously lucifer is a latin name, yeah, should be 'nuff said.
Originally posted by heliosprime
Look at world events since that time..........accelerated evil and chaos........
Originally posted by spy66
We assume that since we cant talk to animals then Adam and Eve cant.
Originally posted by spy66
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Originally posted by spy66
I cant see where God is referring to the devil at all. But i know that some people like to think that the snake represent the devil because it makes sense.
Then why does it make sense?
It dosent make sense. That's the point.
Originally posted by miriam0566
Originally posted by lucidclouds
Good post.
Just out of curiousity, where did you learn all this?
Most people will read the Bible and never make the connections.
Also, do you know the year Satan was kicked out of Heaven?
many many years of studying, even when i wasnt allowed to. i had alot of the elements, then i studied with someone and was able to put some of the more abstract and less obvious pieces together like why do we suffer. figuring out hell was straight forward enough if you do your research.
as for the exact year, that one is extremely difficult.
daniel 4 is the chapter dealing with that. the king of babylon had a dream, about a giant tree that was cut down and prevented from growing for a period of time. daniel showed the king that this vision applied to Nebuchadnezzar.
however the vision had a double fulfillment because in 17 it specifically mentions god's kingdom.
[17] This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
which is a specific reference to jesus.
but here's the thing. the line of kings from jerusalem was cut off in 607 B.C. much like a mighty tree is cut down. it would stay that way until the god appointed his king.
daniel 4 gives us seven "times". in the fulfillment of this prophecy regarding Nebuchadnezzar, the seven times was seven years. seven years for the second fulfillment doesnt make sense. it doesnt fall on anything. however, if it is paralleled, then seven times could equal 7X360 which equal 2520. if you say a day equals a year (see daniel 9), if the starting point is 607 BC then that means jesus was officially enthroned as king in the early 1900's (2520 years later). the exact year, no idea. jesus wasnt born in the year 1. there is some error in that and its disputed eactly when he was born. i think the consensus is around 2 or 3 BC
either way, because satan isnt cast out of heaven until god's kingdom is established, then i would say that satan was caste out sometime in the early 1900's after jesus was anointed king. "woe to the earth" was an understatement, because this century has been like no other.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by heliosprime
I think if Satan is actually a being, and not simply a symbol for evil, then it will be quite apparent when it returns to the surface of Earth. Like...even reported by the MSM big news.
Originally posted by Grumble
If you try to apply logic to the Bible you will be very confused...
Originally posted by DigitalKid
FOLLOW YOUR OWN PATH AND YOU WILL FIND THE WAY. WE ARE ALL A PART OF GREATNESS!