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Originally posted by lucidclouds
I did not say of all religions, I said the Bible. How is that an insult ot people of other faiths?
I am not even sure if she has all of the truth, but is is the closest I have seen here.
People who get paid don't always teach the right thing. I met a pastor and explained to him why christmas is not a christan holiday. He said he already knew that. I asked if he taught and celebrated it, he said he would be out of a job if he didn't.
[edit on 7-12-2008 by lucidclouds]
[edit on 7-12-2008 by lucidclouds]
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by rockandroll84101
Rock, do you actually believe this nonsense?
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Originally posted by lucidclouds
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Well, the Torah or the Pentateuch is the first part of the OT. And the story in question is one of the first and most important stories of the Torah which contains the five Mosaic books. You won't find much on this story elsewhere in the Bible. I don't see your dilemma...
My dilemma, as you call it, is that my answer to the OP is that in revelation, peter, RAISED AS A JEW, calls satan the original serpent the one misleading the entire inhabited earth.
So if I call you a grumpy old fart, it is automatically stated as a fact that you sparked the Big Bang? Besides, when did this Peter of yours say what he said, you're obviously not talking about the Bible, are you, for it's not in it...? Now here, let me rather try to explain for ya'all what exactly happened there in Eden or Paradise back. I'll try to be short. If you choose not to believe me, so be it, but this is how it goes....
Originally posted by lucidclouds
Okay let me try and explain this to you. When I say the Bible, i'm speaking of the OT and the NT.
In the Bible book of revelation, writen by the apostle peter, it says :
"7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him."
Revelation 12:7-9
So in my belief satan was the serpent in the garden of eden, who mislead eve and went on to mislead the earth. My answer to the OP.
So a couple of questions for you.
The wiki entry on Lilit says that Lilit is only mentioned in the hebrew Bible once, in isaiah. is that true?
There is no mention of her in the hebrew Bible during the creation account. So where is this info of her? Is it folk lore?
Also does the jewish religion teach that satan was cast out of heaven? If so where?
Thanks. Looking forward to the answers.
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Not the original serpent, simply the "oldfasioned" serpent. Or the serpent of the old ways... As far as I know serpents are an ancient species, and you say that a serpent living 6000 years ago is the original? get real...
And btw. The Lilith myths predates the Bible, and you even said she was recorded in the bible, still all you can come up with is some silly writing from the dark ages? Comeon.
[edit on 4/1/2009 by Neo Christian Mystic]
The Book of Isaiah 34:14, describing the desolation of Edom, is the only occurrence of Lilith in the Hebrew Bible:
Hebrew (ISO 259): "yelpers meet-[perfect] howlers; hairy-ones cry-[imperfect] to fellow. liyliyth reposes-[perfect], acquires-[perfect] resting-place."
KJV: "The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest."
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
You can choose to believe in God as a breeder making healthy decendants, or as a breeder who through incest and inbred and degeneration would degenerate all he ever made. Hey, even rats and cats rejects their siblings sexually. And for good reason. Interbreeding has many ugly results, not only morally, but also physically somatic and mentally. Good luck. The Bible doesn't contain the whole story you know...