Conservatives, your race card has expired, page 1
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Topic started on 7-11-2008 @ 07:02 PM by southern_Guardian
This is really getting out of hand... I mean seriously Id swear that every conservative is whining about being called racist merely because they didnt support Obama, what a load of BS Im hearing.

Theres no denying that there are those Obama supporters who acted in such an uncompromising manner as to label every non-Obama supporter a racist, but this can be same to said that there are those McCain supporters who have racist feelings and those who label every Obama supporter as messiah loving sheep. There are negative groups in every political base, those who will keep on making generalizations. But theres this trend going on among some, in particular among those on the middle right of the political spectrum... those who cry foul of their own discrimmination in every damn thread.. in my opinion its an overused card being played by conservatives and its not really doing good in covering the reality of the loss to your party.

There was a time when a black man could use race as in excuse for most things, and by then when it became overkill the reply was "here we go again.... pulling out the race card".. I think its high time we do the same to the disgruntled conservatives here. I mean honestly now its obvious that there are those members who a lying about being discrimminated towards. I myself am yet to see one single Obama supporter accuse every non-Obama supporter as a racist, thats not to say I dont believe it, I know its true for some cases, just like that of mccain supporters, but its obvious that there are those members grossly overexaggerating this fact to get their point across.

Ofcourse there are some here using the excuse that the man was elected just because he was black, neglecting the last 8years of rightwinger parisan crap of "your with us or against us", ignoring the reality of the support any democrat was going to get come election day, neglecting the years of overwhelming support from the black and liberal communities of the Democratic party, no matter what color of the candidate, ignoring the other choices that merely alienated the conservative base further.

Then there are those who will use the "his a terrorist loving, socialist, pan-african, foreign born muslim" excuse for not voting for the man then scream discrimmination from Barack Obama supporters, yet accusing anybody of pulling out the race card when they are rightfully called out for it.

Conservatives, your race card has expired. Its getting old... real old.

[edit on 7-11-2008 by southern_Guardian]


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 07:11 PM by Jenna
reply to post by southern_Guardian




Exit Poll Results
Vote by Race
Total Obama McCain Other/No Answer
White 43% 55% 2%
African-American 95% 4% 1%


I'm not saying that Obama was only elected because of his race, but the numbers do lend some credence to the idea that many people voted for him purely for racial reasons.



reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 07:14 PM by southern_Guardian
reply to post by Jenna



Well thats nice, why dont you look to the past presidential elections and look to who blacks almost always voted for overwhelmingly.... the democrats. I think the question here is why have blacks always overwhelmingly supported the Democratic party?

In addition after the last 8years, especially following Katrina and the very fact that minority of this nation have suffered the most through this economic crises and this war, go figure why the have been overwhelmingly supporting Obama. The same could be said for ANY democratic candidate.

Come on... honestly now... the race card coming from conservatives aint an excuse anymore.

[edit on 7-11-2008 by southern_Guardian]


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 07:20 PM by Jenna
reply to post by southern_Guardian



I wasn't saying that particular demographic doesn't usually vote democrat, I was pointing out that the numbers this time around are larger than normal.

And I'm not a conservative.


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 07:23 PM by pavil
reply to post by Jenna




Not that I am an Obama supporter, but historically African Americans tend to overwhelmingly vote Democratic. That should not be a shock. I would also not be surprised if the total turnout of African Americans was higher this year than in any other year. They have reason to be proud of having Obama as a candidate and now President Elect, again I would have expected a larger turnout.

When the first Latino Presidential Candidate comes around, I would expect similar things from his or her Base as well.

Obama has a long way to go to quell my doubts about him. His first appointments don't make me feel any better either. His first 2 years will be the test of the Man, let's see if he can live up to his own hype.


[edit on 7-11-2008 by pavil]


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 07:47 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by southern_Guardian



Please list for me any instances of where conservatives have played the race card.

You are attempting to incite a racial argument here where there is none.

You talk about the "us vs them" mentality yet that is exactly what you are attempting to do.

[edit on 7-11-2008 by jsobecky]


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 07:51 PM by Jenna
reply to post by pavil



Again, I wasn't saying that the only reason he was elected was race. I wasn't saying that blacks don't typically vote democrat. I was pointing out that the numbers show a higher percentage voting democrat this year. Numbers don't lie. Yes his election was a historic moment for our country, regardless of who I or anyone else voted for that in itself needs to be recognized. And yes, he will be the president come inauguration day. I really hope he lives up to all the hype. I really do.

But there have been many an Obama supporter on here claiming that anyone who criticizes him or the policies he has promoted is a racist. So that leads me to question who is really playing the race card.


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:19 PM by southern_Guardian
Originally posted by jsobecky
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post by southern_Guardian



Please list for me any instances of where conservatives have played the race card.


What about accusing the man of being arab?
wrongfully accusing the man of being muslim against his choice?? because of his middle name he should labelled something his not??
How about going on about him not being american born with nothing to back up for it?
How about labelling every black person a racism because they support Obama?
How about labelling every white person guily merely because they support Obama?
How about calling all Obama supports mentally derranged because they choose not to go for mccain?

Please, the race card is plain for all to see.

You are attempting to incite a racial argument here


And hows that? following the win of Barack obama the majority of the threads I see here come from disgruntled rightwingers claiming their being discrimminated against because they dont support Obama, stating how this win was just the result of black bias and white guilt and Im the one inciting racial arguement here?

Good of yall to gather the crew here to jump in, but the current threads going on in here are obvious enough.

You talk about the "us vs them" mentality yet that is exactly what you are attempting to do.


Right, we have a wave a threads about Obama supporters doing this and that, then we have a comment from your buddy here calling all liberals anti-american, I bring it up and all of sudden I have this mentality? For bringing this up?

I find it real hypocritical hearing this from you of all people jsobecky.



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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:26 PM by southern_Guardian
reply to post by Grumble



exactly, why dont we? Im having to confront folks round here bringing up this "black bias white guilt" everytime a thread is posted and we have the "its not me its you" attitude.

This has to involve race when its come to discussing the elections, it can never be about anything else.


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:29 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by southern_Guardian



Originally posted by southern_Guardian
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by southern_Guardian



Please list for me any instances of where conservatives have played the race card.


What about accusing the man of being arab?
wrongfully accusing the man of being muslim against his choice?


Neither arab nor muslim is a race. One is an ethnicity, the other is a religion.


How about going on about him not being american born with nothing to back up for it?


A valid question that he never answered. But the same question was asked of McCain. Anyway, it is is no way racial.


Please, the race card is plain for all to see over the last months of this elections, coming from members of mostly the right here.


You cannot make a statement like that without backing it up. You have failed to do so.


You are attempting to incite a racial argument here


And hows that? following the win of Barack obama the majority of the threads I see here come from disgruntled rightwingers claiming their being discrimminated against because they dont support Obama.


Because they feel that *any* criticism of Obama is painted as racial. Just as you are doing.

You talk about the "us vs them" mentality yet that is exactly what you are attempting to do.


Right, we have a wave a threads about Obama supporters doing this and that, then we have a comment from your buddy here calling all liberals anti-american, I bring it up and all of sudden I have this mentality? For bringing this up?

I find it real hypocritical hearing this from you of all people jsobecky.


However, I do not find it surprising that you are trying to start a racial argument where there is none, southern_Guardian.


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:47 PM by southern_Guardian
Originally posted by jsobecky
Neither arab nor muslim is a race. One is an ethnicity, the other is a religion.


damn straight it aint, but some folks dont seem to see it that way.

A valid question that he never answered. But the same question was asked of McCain. Anyway, it is is no way racial.


Since when did anything racial have to be direct these days?


You cannot make a statement like that without backing it up. You have failed to do so.


You cannot accuse every obama supporter of playing the race card without backing it up.

You cannot generalize every black and white person of voting for Obama because of racial reasons. That relates to the original post, thats the point iv been making.

And yes I think its a stretch for you to deny of any racism incited by members here regarding Obama, notebly threads like

"all blacks will riot if Obama does win"
95% of the blacks who voted for Obama are racist"
"Obama has an arab accent and was born to a muslim family making him muslim"
"reasons not to vote Obama, blacks want to exterminate whites"


Because they feel that *any* criticism of Obama is painted as racial. Just as you are doing


right, and where exactly did I accuse all mccain supporters of being racist jso? Are we playing the "I know you are but what am I" game or somthing?


However, I do not find it surprising that you are trying to start a racial argument where there is none, southern_Guardian


Any discussion with you folks cannot go on without racism or the race card injected into it, and thats the trends im seeing and talking about jso. If dont want to discuss it, then you folks shouldnt have to bring it up in every thread yall post.



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