Are US presidents being fed bad info about aliens?

reply to post by gl2


So ever wonder why President bush sr. bought the mountain range around the base plus, He was only sitting president to get the TOUR, yes te guided tour. Plus he was Director of the C.I.A. look if we can make it's made there all tools, dies everything, well you know how that goes some cargo planes to large to use small runway to land think who is leasing thier cargo planes think gluppy.

i always thought Eisenhower was the last president to be briefed on aliens and that black ops worked under the radar of the corporate government. it seems such a secret would be kept to as few people as possible

ufo, that info about Dick Criswell briefing Gore and Clinton would be important history. Whenever you can, you should document it---what specifically did Criswell say and what did he tell them? That's a big piece of the puzzle that other people need to know to know what's really going on, so if your info is good, you'll help the whole world, it will be remembered and cited by many, if you write it out.

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Nonsense. First off, Wolf and Lazar? Oh yes, 2 great reputable sources who have never ever had their stories exposed or found holes in


secondly the topic at hand.

First off, has it even been proven that aliens are visting Earth? I think not.
Secondly, has it been proven the President knows? No. Not one single dcument has ever been recovered and verified as authentic that contains the words aliens or extra terrestrials in the context of giving validitity to the vistiation of such upon the Earth.

This story is full of fantastic claims - alignment with grey aliens, deciet, technology being used for evil, and all sorts of appeals to emoion and OMG moments but once again, lacks any solid evidence. The reader is handed this fantastic tail and expected to swallow it. From the # of stars, it seems that a large portion of people buy into it.

This almost sounds like it has some Corso (another once reverred UFO witness who was outted as a fraud, by Stanton Friedman)
in it.
Eitherway, this is pure bogusness.

Whether its proven to you or not, that question is already past being a question for others. I know very well they exist. The question I want anwered is why they operate in the manner they do? Why do some experience fearful memories and others experience feelings of warmth towards (basically captors?)? And this despite a definite memory block which may be covering more nefarious things. Despite this, the overall feeling is positive. I've even been too worried and upset to sleep and gone outside for a smoke, to suddenly feel a strong feeling of warmth, love and encouragement, a flash of grey faces in my mind. I look up and see one of our typical sitings.

Or the "pinging" happens inside, and then we go out, feel greeted, and see the craft again. Why is our experience positive like this, and I really feel they are primarily scientists, and perhaps militia, and that something of a higher nature is occurring. Perhaps mistakes were made in the past with us, but right now, this has something to do with our corporate abusive cabal, the suffering and starvation of many on this planet, the nuclear weapons and our fledgling (although in secret it could be intermediate) space program. I don't think our leaders are allowed, under some kind of galactic law, to do what they're doing. But why don't they show themselves to the citizens of the world then? Why the secrecy? How does it violate things? Is it time travel protocol that prevents them from revealing the truth to us. Because non-involvement wouldn't be broken by revealing the truth. Truth makes true decisions easier.

So what are they pulling off, by their various works? One of the messages that came to me is that true disclosure, not just the government reluctantly releasing a few of their files, but a true unveiling of the situation and an interplanetary public meeting, was going to take place later in human history, perhaps in as much as 300 years from now. I hope not. But perhaps there is a time, in history, that they must aim for, so as not to change timelines drastically, this providing its time travel protocol. I hope they have a plan to slowly rid us of our abusive system of leaders. This was another thing I felt. But if its evil manipulative verdants, not sure what any of it means.

Sorry guys, I replied in the wrong thread. Never did that before. It's too far past my bedtime.

[edit on 3-3-2009 by simonecharisse]

Originally posted by spitefulgod
What "if" aliens came to earth and said, "look guys it's galactic policy that your world be united in a single government before you're accepted in the council up here. Nothing personal but over past history problems in a divided planet tend to spill out into galactic politics and it kinda gets messy"

This is why the NwO are pushing so hard for globalism, maybe this is what's needed for us to progress... maybe we're the bad guys

That's kind of been my suspicion for a while now and could explain a lot of things that are presently happening such as they could also have a requirement that a certain percentage of the Earths population must be at or near a certain standard of living and this is why the US and the West have pretty much given away technology to other countries in an attempt to get those numbers up quickly.


[edit on 3-3-2009 by SLAYER69]

Still reading your post and finding it facinating to say the lest , but its very lengthy.
I wanted to see a picture of Dr michael wolf through google images, and then i looked in youtube ( yeah i know the story with you tube and i searched other sites but their link are for you tube) and i found this audio file 56 min long seem like a good listen, I think you will find it interesting.

Dr. Wolf - Top Secret UFO Disclosure

www.youtube.com...

alien mind g12's free ebook is a must read . im surprised that this informative thread didnt read more people. g12 has done alot of research and from personel emails etc he's had his own contact.

1. michael k. wolf was a great man and his story is valid. he called the greys Rets short for the Reticulans. Story goes that he was also fed some disinfo ,and i say "some" ...this is because the top shadow scum pages thought that any possible whistle blower better not have nothing but the facts. MKW's life was amazing all should read about it, or a movie needs to be made.

2.g12 knows about the tall whites, too . aliens i've seen. and i chose to camp out in the desert near there base at indian springs. charles said he figured they were from arcturus ,yet made up the name talls since they keep growing and live up to 700+yrs. I somehow felt they might be from Aldebaran. Yet, i have no proof. I spent so many nights in the desert hoping they'd come out ... kept looking up and seeing Aldebaran rise over head and read up on it . Figure they might signal to their home base ,who knows. yet others think the talls were from the planet that turned into the astroid belt and are called the Imdugud. I can go on and on

here's my story which partly was added to charles halls book 4

1.Back in the 60's i did a homework assignment were i clipped out a time magazine article entitled- Who were they? It showed a picture of the Talls all dressed-up having crashed a embassy ball ! Yet, ambassadors from N Spain were not invested, nor did they have proof.
2.In the '80s at a used book store i came across the lost book of the Talls, written by a NJ housewife who befriended military personel , photos of talls were used in book.I tried emailing many ufo-book-sources ,to no avail. Charles Hall once owned the book yet it vanished. Anyone who has or knows of this book please contact. Its about 150 pages ,dark front cover, black n white photos.I must of been confiscated for being top secret.
3.Then in '90 i came out of the bathroom of the Tropicana Casino late one night and noticed 4 talls ,one was climbing the stairs in a most peculiar manor. I later found it was due to not being used to earth gravity,thus a new arrival. I was dumbfounded. I felt guilty for staring as they turned to watch me. Charles Hall informed me who they were.
4.It was 15 yrs later that i heard the Charles Hall interview .He informed that they play poker at nearby casinos. I went back and confirmed that those stairs led to the poker room! (yet the casino was remodeled now but workers shared what it was like then.
5. 2005 i camped near their Indian Springs Base - scout craft came out one night, signaled my light ,it went in reverse and hide in a cloud.A few nights later one levitated-about near by.A tall guard descended down from the ridge.

i had it on cut n paste and went into ats archives and replied to these threads that seem to have been laid to rest.

anyhow , i believe the talls are even more private now then they were in the 60's prior to halls books exposing them. i think they have there reasons. yet im sad that they never wanted to land and chat etc.

Not to metion Alex Collier and his contact with the "Andromedans"

Alot of his stuff is strikingly similar to Dr wolfs...belive what you will.


video.google.com...

wolf was before collier

collier is a great source to but dont even go there trying to down play wolf

collier has wiggle room in his info, i wont shoot the messenger but his telepathic intpretation of whats being communicated allows for errors. my example is look at what was said about the prediction prior to 911 about a 911 like event. What was said was close but not exactly what played out. Im only pointing this out because it needs to be addressed and would be a question i'd ask alex if i met him. Some of his communication has been in words but he never breaks it down how much is telepathic , (i presume 90%) ..... i do not know how much bud alex smokes , i do not know how developed his 3rd eye is. I also wonder why he was upset about not being informed about something he alluded to give details about when he last spoke in hawaii. im a 100% behind alex ,but i want to go over the details more . For one he said calif will soon be having major catastrophies or fall into the ocean and i live there.

Ok can someone help me and clear this up. What is the "Grey Alignment" again?

I've been reading and every time they say that I get lost.

Also are the Grey good or bad according to the story / article above?

And last question why aren't more people or soldiers who've worked on "Alien Projects" come forward to better support this information? Why do they keep the existence or the possible existence of aliens from us?