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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:23 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

Bush is pretty fascist. He was doing away with a lot of liberal policies. He didn't care much for gay rights, and, he didn't care much for abortion. He was inspiring the bigoted core of his base. And to make matters worse, he was energizing his base by giving them ammo, by saying, that the terrorists in the world were only Muslim, when this is not the case. He didn't make an effort to really explain the terrorism problem well and as a result he has caused a lot of discrimination against the people of Islam.

I think you will notice the amount of fascist like qualities Bush had after Obama is President for a while. You will wonder how we could ever let someone like Bush, who, nearly destroyed the constitution, into office.


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:23 PM by stumason
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


Facism was in Germany too. The "socialism" in National Socialism had nothing to do with actually being socialist. Especially seeing as the german Nazi party hated anything that resembled communism.

The National Socialist party was formed, originally, to unite the working class of the German nation, so at it's birth it had some socialist tendencies.

However, with the rise of Hittler, Himmler and the gang, it was taken over and became extremely right wing and very quickly lost any notion of socialism and closer resembled facism than anything else.


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:44 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by stumason


Who do you think Bush is more closer matched to?

Hitler, or Mussolini?


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:48 PM by stumason
reply to post by Frankidealist35


Neither.

Hitler was quite a politician, at least in the beggining. He was a good orator and, for the most part, a capable leader.

Mussolini I don't know much about, but he too seems to have been someone who could stir the masses with his speeches and had some element of leadership.

Bush is a moron.

He can't string together anything close to a stirring speach, would have trouble finding his own arse with a map and has displayed a woeful lack of leadership on more than one occasion.

[edit on 7/11/08 by stumason]



reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 04:10 PM by grover
reply to post by Rockpuck


Mussolini... who should know said:

...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....


Also:

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."


Ergo Fascism is antithetical to socialism and could also be described as predatory capitalism.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 08:46 PM by LittlePinky82
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


Facism was in Germany too. The "socialism" in National Socialism had nothing to do with actually being socialist. Especially seeing as the german Nazi party hated anything that resembled communism.

The National Socialist party was formed, originally, to unite the working class of the German nation, so at it's birth it had some socialist tendencies.

However, with the rise of Hittler, Himmler and the gang, it was taken over and became extremely right wing and very quickly lost any notion of socialism and closer resembled facism than anything else.


Socialism is about helping everyone not just one particular group of people like the Nazi's. Socialism also works towards ending the caste system, racism etc. They never were socialist in the first place.


reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 03:21 PM by Maya00a
Originally posted by grover
reply to post by Rockpuck


Mussolini... who should know said:

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."


It sure looks like we could be headed for fascism then. The merger of state and corporate power is happening. Is anyone concerned, not about the global economy, but about the current situation leading to fascism.

Here's a recent thread about the rise in fascism in Europe.

[edit on 25-3-2009 by Maya00a]


reply posted on 29-3-2009 @ 12:30 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by LittlePinky82


I made this thread when I was ignorant.

I didn't know better.

I agree, socialism is just another form of fascism. If anything I was talking about true socialism which is entirely impossible.
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