Im 22 years old.
This past election was the first where i was able to objectivly observe each and every event.
Prop 8 is the one of the biggest stories.
Thrughout the history of Human, a period spaning untold thousands of years, Marriage was between a man and a woman.
There has always been homosexuality. Whatever the cause of it.
This 'idea' of marriage between man and woman has been known to be an unchalenged truth throughout the years, that is until the Year 2000 in
California.
In the 200 election, the people of California went to the Ballot box, and voted to explicitly define marriage as between a man and a woman.
They did this with every legal precident of the constitutionaluty and rights given to them.
In May of 2008, the California Supreme Court over-ruled the Constitutioanly-Back vote of the people
The most well put quote that came from the Supreme Justices came from one of the members of the Dissenting vote.
Justice Carol A. Corrigan wrote that her personal sympathies were with the plaintiffs challenging the bans on same-sex marriage. But Justice
Corrigan said the courts should allow the political process to address the question.
“We should allow the significant achievements embodied in the domestic partnership statutes to continue to take root,” she wrote. “If there is
to be a new understanding of the meaning of marriage in California, it should develop among the people of our state and find its expression at the
ballot box.”
Here is a justice who put personal opinion below her civic duty. She chose to rely on the will OF the people.
For the first time in my observeable politcal life, i saw OVERT and OPEN Fascism at works in the American Political system.
No media outlet called it what it was. And no average person saw the truth.
Even here on ATS, not many saw this, not many could see the truth when it is right in front of, we have been conditioned to be told.
Unless something is pointed out to us, we rarely see it. Even I suffer from this affliction. You must train yourself to put aside emotion, and to
focus on the legality/legitimacy of the law.
Here, it was so simple. 4 people, overrode the Constitutional Vote of millions
People reasons for defending Fascism are diffrent.
Most people fall into the catagory of they don't know what they are doing, they are either ill-informed or have no desire to even be informed.
These people have had the media failed them. The open/free press died at some point in the past decade. These people consist of 90%+ of the people who
vote for gay rights thru this measure. No fault should be aimed at them.
The second group of people that support prop 8 are much worse.
These are the people that i can call, Gay Fascists. These people are the VERY vocal minorty, less then 10%.
These people do not mind haveing fascism, as long as it benifiets them, or if they get some sort of self-gradification out of it.
Reguardless of how you feel about the morality of homosexuailty, its not right to strip them of certain tax benifets. Given to Married couples.
And, reguardless of how you feel about gay rights, its not a good thing to be an advocate for Fascism.
Fight for Gay Rights, thru civil unions, but use the RIGHTS given to you by our Constitution.
Do not rely on the Fascistic rulings of a compremised American Political system.
It is a man like San Fransisco Mayor, Gavin Newsome, who you need to worry about. People like him, are those that we have been warned about, thruout
history.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for
he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the
alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the
baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of
the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.
--Marcus Tullius Cicero
Roman orator, statesman 42 B.C
I invite you to leave your comments, as long as you don't use the words:
Homophobe.
Bigiot
Hate-mongerer
Nazi
Or any other slur that is used to distract from the issue.
I would like to hear from people, who did not know this, esspicialy people who ARE big advocates of Gay Rights.
How do you feel that the fight for YOUR GAY rights, has been highjecked by fascists within the California Political system?
Are you fine with this Fascism, because it benifiets you?
A last word of note, please put aside EMOTIONAL thought when reasoning.
Humans are emotional creatures, and our emotions are a great benifit to us in MANY MANY circumstances, logical reasoning, is not one of these
spots.
In any logical argument or debate, if you get your enemy to use their emotions to reason, rather then logic, you will win.
And i would like the screamers of both sides to stay away.
Those that are going to scream at gays, and say they are going to hell for sins, stay away.
Those that are going to attack someone for their beliefs, and the choices they make in their lifes, stay away.
Those open to logical reason, I welcome you to disscusion.
[edit on 11/7/2008 by TKainZero]