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reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 11:14 AM by djpaec
reply to post by Question


I think what Maximillion is trying to say is, this is a reboot of the Presidency, as that term has been floated around. I believe no matter what you think of Bush or his policies we must respect the office of the president(the executive branch). I may 'disrespect' Bush's and conservatives decisions to make it harder for people to declare bankruptcy. Or 'disrespect' the unconstitutional line-item veto. Even 'disrespect' the idea of a"Unitary President", but those are Bush's ideas and this Presidency is a new chapter in our great Republics books and the first word hasn't even been written yet.



reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 01:16 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


Absolutely. I never heard anyone the day after the elections in 2000 say, "Well, that's it, I am moving out of the country. Bush is going to ruin the country."

Obama has not stepped into office yet and people are blaming him for downturn in the economy. It's unbelievable.

Keep this in mind, the same people blaming Obama for the economy now (it makes me want to scream) are the same people who said Bush inherited a bad economy when it turned downwards right after he was elected.


reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 05:19 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by Irish M1ck


Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


Absolutely. I never heard anyone the day after the elections in 2000 say, "Well, that's it, I am moving out of the country. Bush is going to ruin the country."


They did say it, though, after he was re-elected. Liberals promised to move to Canada or elsewhere, and the shrink's couches were full for months dealing with liberal depression.

Even Hollywood Blamed Gloomy Oscars On Bush

patdollard.com...



Obama has not stepped into office yet and people are blaming him for downturn in the economy. It's unbelievable.


Actually the Democrats and Obama had a major part in the dowturn in the economy. It is well documented; their escapades with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were downright disgusting. But Obama did nothing to stop it; after all, he was the second largest recipient of donations from Fannie Mae.

www.opensecrets.org...

Bush had very little to do with the downturn, other that ignoring it.


reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 05:47 PM by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by MaxiMillion


Personally, I scoff at statements like this. I'm not going to give my respect to a man who I do not respect. Not now, not ever, regardless of who you're shaking hands with. Respect is earned, not given. That's goes for Obama as well.


reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 06:51 PM by MaxiMillion
reply to post by DeadFlagBlues
I don't think you understand my point. But it is ok, in the last ten years we have lost alot of our honor, it took a long time to lose it and it will take a long time to regain it.
I understand your anger and I feel it. But my country, our country deserves better than our selfish anger, especially at this very difficult time.
I will swallow my anger and my doubts and do my part to make this country what it once was and if that takes showing respect to our elected officials then so be it.
This doesn't mean that I will stand idly by and not call him out when I see a mistake or a promise broken. But I will not do it in the manner that those that hated President Bush did it.
When they did this it undermined the authority of the office and thereby weakened our leader and our standing in the world.

See what I don't think some of you understand is that President Bush, Godbless him with all his warts and failures was representative of ALL OF US. wether we liked it or not, it is just the way it is. And when we make fun of and make dispicable references of him we are making them of ourselves.

If we don't respect our country how can we expect other countries to?

cheers brudda.
We will be laughing about all this in a few short years.


reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 09:52 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by jsobecky


Well, it's impossible for me to refute your opinion, of course. I am just saying I didn't notice a mass movement of people saying it back then. Perhaps a few people, but I don't remember it coming up in conversation.

Now, it seems anyone who wanted McCain is acting like this is the end of the world.



reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 09:53 PM by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by jsobecky


Well, it's impossible for me to refute your opinion, of course. I am just saying I didn't notice a mass movement of people saying it back then. Perhaps a few people, but I don't remember it coming up in conversation.

Now, it seems anyone who wanted McCain is acting like this is the end of the world.


How do you know that everyone that thinks Obama is bad idea for this country, wanted McCain in? Because I really dont think that is accurate!


reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 09:54 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by greeneyedleo


I said "it seems like everyone". Of course, I do a lot of time on these boards, listening to Rush Limbaugh, and other talk radio sources... so of course I am biased in that way.


reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 11:15 PM by David9176
reply to post by Irish M1ck




Keep this in mind, the same people blaming Obama for the economy now (it makes me want to scream) are the same people who said Bush inherited a bad economy when it turned downwards right after he was elected.


During his seven and a half years in office, President Bush has declared 422 major disasters — severe storms, tornadoes, wildfires and floods — or more than one a week. That is 11 percent more than President Bill Clinton’s disaster declarations and 130 percent more than President Ronald Reagan during their full two terms in office.


All those natural disasters translate into more federal government spending. Under Mr. Bush, the government has committed to spend $87 billion in disaster relief money to help states and localities clean up after floods, fires and storms, compared with Mr. Clinton’s nearly $29 billion. Even after adjusting for inflation, the Bush administration has spent 2.5 times more than the Clinton administration on disaster relief.


aftermathnews.wordpress.com...


And lets not forget about 9/11 and the internet bubble, the flooding of New Orleans, the hurricane that just devasted Texas....lots of stuff man.

www.ccc.nps.navy.mil...
en.wikipedia.org...

Now i'm not sticking up for the man...but he had ALOT of crap on his plate that he didn't ask for either.


reply posted on 8-11-2008 @ 11:30 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by David9176


I never blamed anything on Bush in that post. This economic crisis is the least of the things he did that hurt this country.
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