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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 04:30 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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I believe in the Innocent Until Proven Guilty philosophy. I will Respect any President until they give me reason not to.
No, I do not respect President Bush. The respect was lost.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 04:37 PM by MaxiMillion
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It is okay to lose respect for the person holding the office of president. But there is a line that must be drawn when sharing your feelings and
it shouldn't undermine the Office of President.
Look it is just my opinion and I don't know a better way to explain it but by example.
I personally don't respect President Obama as a person because I believe he witheld alot of truth from of us and did whatever he had to moral and
immoral to become president.
But I will not speak nasty of his family and him and take shots at his appearance and his manner of speach. I find this to be disrepectful of the
office he holds.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 04:40 PM by sos37
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After some thinking, let me add this. The liberal policies do scare me and Obama's tax plan I think is going to hurt the economy, but the people that
really scare me the most are the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Franken, etc.
I know that while campaigning that Obama said he leaned toward not being in favor of implementing the Fairness Doctrine. But Schumer is the one who
made those statements about reinstating it back on Nov. 4. If Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, the other Democrats in the Senate try to pass a bill reinstating
the doctrine or some other crap like that and Obama stands firm on the principals he talked about during the campaign and vetoes the measure, then
that would go a LONG way to earning my respect, and believe me being a life-long Texas Republican that's not done easily by a Democrat. There have
been a few, though. JFK is one of those few men.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 04:44 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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Originally posted by MaxiMillion
It is okay to lose respect for the person holding the office of president. But there is a line that must be drawn when sharing your feelings and it
shouldn't undermine the Office of President.
Look it is just my opinion and I don't know a better way to explain it but by example.
I am not one for lines
But okay. I will try again. Bush is a criminal and should be in prison. That is not me undermining the Office itself.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 04:46 PM by HunkaHunka
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What was it about JFK which won your respect?
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 04:47 PM by MaxiMillion
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:04 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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Originally posted by sos37
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
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I agree that change was needed, but, my God - a Civilian Defense Force?
I am willing to bet all of my ATS chips that you don't know what he was talking about. *no quick research*. Fast, tell us what it is?
Sure do. Very same thing Hugo Chavez implemented in Venezuela to help fend off invasion of outside forces. Where do you think he got the idea?
 That's what I thought.
Yeah? Chavez enlisted militia from the Peace Corps?? From the Ameri Corps?? Chaves created an Energy Corps??
*hint: notice the video you based this on was 15-20 seconds?? Word to the wise, political speeches are never this short  That clip was extracted
from a 30 minute speech, and deliberately taken out of context. To fool people into thinking he was talking about a military force. He was not talking
about creating a second opposing military force, or even expanding the existing one.
Watch the entire video here so you understand what he was really
talking about:
Watch the entire thing and you will see what I am talking about. It's clear as day.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:06 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:07 PM by prevenge
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Originally posted by bknapple32
I love those that now say Obama isnt their president, but called others un American for saying they didnt think Bush was.
Honestly,
Did you just make that up for the post, or did someone actually say that to you?
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 05:52 PM by invisiblewoman
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utterly ridiculous for every major protection in freedom that this country had in the constitution has been thrown in the toilet by the Neo Con
administration, and then they can somehow blame it on Obama! That's a degree of magical thinking,that drifts to psychosis I think.
Did you here there's a financial collapse? Damn you OBAMA!
What is it you don't like about him ,that he can read? He use and pronounce words?He knows what the internet is?
here this explains it  
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 06:11 PM by sos37
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by sos37
What was it about JFK which won your respect?
For one - he was the first president to stand fast against those who didn't know anything about the Catholic religion and started picking him apart
on it. He made an impassioned speech about his faith to the American people and it worked.
Mitt Romney tried the same with Mormonism and it failed.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 06:32 PM by Solarskye
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American soldiers will protect this country against foriegn and domestic threats that would bring America down and so should the people. I'll
respect the Office but I don't know about the President. If a president does wrong against America then he or she doesn't deserve respect.
There's to many people running the show behind the scenes of a president for one man to blame but we do. The Congress had lower approval ratings
than Bush but we voted them all back in there to screw us again.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:29 PM by dgtempe
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I most certainly DO NOT RESPECT BUSH- therefore, i am NOT a hypocrite.
I started out with reservations but i accepted "him" since he was our new president, and since i have a history of voting for EITHER party.
He lost all my respect. Wanna know why???
Now with Obama: I will respect him and back him and fly the flag once again...UNTIL such a time when he screws the people...IF he does that,
I wont hesitate to slam him/whack him or NOBAMA him.
Get the message? This is not hypocrisy. Its fact and its the way it is with me.
Nobody gets married thinking it will never work out.
Your turn.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:32 PM by greeneyedleo
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Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by greeneyedleo
I most certainly DO NOT RESPECT BUSH- therefore, i am NOT a hypocrite.
I started out with reservations but i accepted "him" since he was our new president, and since i have a history of voting for EITHER party.
He lost all my respect. Wanna know why???
Now with Obama: I will respect him and back him and fly the flag once again...UNTIL such a time when he screws the people...IF he does that,
I wont hesitate to slam him/whack him or NOBAMA him.
Get the message? This is not hypocrisy. Its fact and its the way it is with me.
Nobody gets married thinking it will never work out.
Your turn.
I think its fine if you lost respect for him. I would never ever tell you you are wrong for doing so.
However, I dont have to respect him just because he won a title. I dont support him winning.
And when I meet someone, if marriage were to ever come in to play.....before I EVER decide to marry that person...that person must EARN my respect and
trust. I would never meet some guy and right away trust and respect him.
Respect is earned. And it is either KEPT or LOST  (for me, that is)
Also, many people get married thinking inside "i sure hope it works out or im not sure if im making the right decision"  Sometimes we make wrong
choices and should always go with our initial gut feelings
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:39 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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So did you watch that video? Or did you ignore it?
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:43 PM by dgtempe
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I'm not trying to be mean, sorry if i got a little hot under the collar.
We are all entitled to feel as we do. BTW, love your avie!!!!!!
dg
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:45 PM by greeneyedleo
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Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by greeneyedleo
I'm not trying to be mean, sorry if i got a little hot under the collar.
We are all entitled to feel as we do. BTW, love your avie!!!!!!
dg
Oh, I dont see you as being mean
Thanks for being sensative though
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:45 PM by greeneyedleo
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Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by greeneyedleo
I'm not trying to be mean, sorry if i got a little hot under the collar.
We are all entitled to feel as we do. BTW, love your avie!!!!!!
dg
Oh, I dont see you as being mean
Thanks for being sensative though
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:58 PM by LowLevelMason
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Its so interesting to watch all these people who absolutely hated George Bush and called him hitler for 8 years have had such a "turn of heart" and
now wholeheartedly offer support to Obama.
Please, don't try to disguise it. Its all partisan politics, and your on the partisan side for Obama.
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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 09:13 PM by Question
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I'm sorry OP, but just as many here have said in the past. Respect must be EARNED! and so far, NONE of his ideas of what he plans to do to our
country, are deserving of my support, let alone my respect.
He can get my respect the minute he proves himself a good president. If he drops the ball, he will hear from me, just as Bush heard from many of us
when he too dropped the ball.
Until you understand that, I humbly ask that you please stop making any kind of demand for us to "respect" him.
Oh and so you know... my alliegance is not, and will never be to any of these buffoons in power. Them having a fancy title like president or senator
means NOTHING to me if they don't bother supporting their people. My alliegance on the other hand, is to the constitution and for the patriots that
have not forgotten what this country was built on. Know your history, you will see that even the founding fathers were not all that fond of rulers
with fancy titles making ridiculous demands of them.
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