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Originally posted by cbass
The Pleaideans have given me a message also and I have been reluctant to start an entire thread about it because I know how much these things get ridiculed.
Originally posted by Odessy
Meh, I think we have a lot of believers here that are simply fed up with these types of posting.
You have the new people who have yet to be disappointed with the endless failings of each predictions; Then you have the people who believe in Aliens and possibly even in the Pledians (I fall into this category) who are tired by people who join ATS and on the same day post these extravagant claims that when followed, only turn out to be garbage
Originally posted by NobodiesClone63
... I know for a fact what's happened to me and that's all I need to know. Know for yourself. ... I'm not a big fan of the "society" and what they think because most people aren't of the same mindset as I am.
....Don't try to convince doubters because you'll begin to doubt yourself. It's also tricky when surrounding yourself with people of the same mindset because they will encourage you more and are quicker to say "Yep that happened"
I'm a believer man ....
Originally posted by pieman
the difficulty i have with these messages is that they ask for complete change on our part before we can receive any help, but once we have changed i fail to see why we would require help.
Originally posted by FiatLux
What I find that is strange about outside entities wanting us to ask them for help is this. When one places their life into the hands of an outside influance, this person gives up their free will. And for these people to wish these outside entities to take away all the peoples problems and troubles, this in fact interferes with everyones free will. Why do these entities want us to give up our free will to them? All of us were given free will in the beginning, why now do people think we should just give it away or give it up? I find that as being very disturbing myself.
Oh, and by the way, Universal Laws are not just for those entities, they cover all beings and life that exists. One of those Laws is free will.
[edit on 9-11-2008 by FiatLux]
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by pieman
the difficulty i have with these messages is that they ask for complete change on our part before we can receive any help, but once we have changed i fail to see why we would require help.
Heh. Every point I've read of yours so far in this thread I've made myself elsewhere on these forums.
This kind of alien message is practically redundant in every way. They offer us change and answers only when we've changed and worked the answers out for ourselves. They tell us things that the bulk of the world already know as if it's such a profound insight and startling revelation.
I think that alien communication actually says more about the person receiving the communication than the alleged communicator.
Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
They offer change and help, after we have instigated the change ourselves, otherwise, they could come down and the majority of people would tell them to pi$$ off, you must understand that right?
Imagine them coming down, without our 'request' first, they'd land and explain about whats happened, how we shouldn't be eating meat, or arguing, belittling or killing each other, we should shy away from our material obsessions, and instead, try and better ourselves mentally and spiritually, we should spend our time helping each other, rather than ourselves, we should help our planet, the plants and animals that share our home,WE SHOULD STOP WATCHING TV?!?! Honestly, what do you think the average person would say? IMO, it would be a 'screw this, I'm going to eat a steak dinner and watch big brother' moment.
Originally posted by infinite
Man, another indicative moment of "truth" involving the Pleiadians
One cannot help being sceptic, but if I were apart of an alien race - presenting themselves as the tutelage of humanity - I'd contact the United Nations. Not members of an internet forum - sorry guys. Is it a coincidence that these plaintive and dire portents are always sent to members of ATS?
How exhilarating that ATS is once again the du jour and en vogue of the galactic federation!