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The Pleiadians Sent Me, A Message To The World.

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posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 01:42 AM
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The Pleaideans have given me a message also and I have been reluctant to start an entire thread about it because I know how much these things get ridiculed.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by cbass
The Pleaideans have given me a message also and I have been reluctant to start an entire thread about it because I know how much these things get ridiculed.


Most people are man. I myself have been ridiculed so harshly that I went out of my way to take back everything I said and even alienate myself from other believers. I know for a fact what's happened to me and that's all I need to know. Know for yourself. That's what life is. I'm not a big fan of the "society" and what they think because most people aren't of the same mindset as I am.

When you surround yourself with people of different views and beliefs it is a good thing but it can get quite confusing and you end up losing a piece of yourself along the way. Don't try to convince doubters because you'll begin to doubt yourself. It's also tricky when surrounding yourself with people of the same mindset because they will encourage you more and are quicker to say "Yep that happened"

Very scary. I'm a believer man so if you'd like to share your story send a u2u. I know this post isn't on topic or even helpful to you in any way but I just felt as though these things needed to be said. *sighs it's 3am here



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by Odessy

Meh, I think we have a lot of believers here that are simply fed up with these types of posting.
You have the new people who have yet to be disappointed with the endless failings of each predictions; Then you have the people who believe in Aliens and possibly even in the Pledians (I fall into this category) who are tired by people who join ATS and on the same day post these extravagant claims that when followed, only turn out to be garbage


If you wanted very much to dissuade people from believing in "Pleidians" and their "Message" ....
meaning it was imparative that you dissuaded them from "buying it"..

would you not fill the scene with outlandish predictions that do not come true?


if not, why wouldn't you?

it works.


take you for example... and a vast majority of naysayers here...

whatever is happening .. is dissuading people from believing it.
and thus dissuading people from actually listening to the message..
aaaand following it as a course of action.


so this Goodchild hoax.. did it's job. now half the people that even said it was a hoax before the 14th or whatever.. but deep down inside wanted it to happen...
are complete skeptics of it all now.


sure... be skeptical.. it's healthy. you won't be taken for a ride as easily by manipulative people.

but you can also use something called deductive reasoning.


anyway.. the pliedian hoaxes are doing their job and manipulating people unknowingly into even firmer scpetics.. and even more plugged ears.

take anything that's real.. as far out to the average joe it may be..
take anything that really exists..

make a movie about it or a TV series..
and bam...
instant inability for it to be taken seriously as fact.
perfect solution.

someone brings it up...
and the person it's being brought up to.. thinks and says "oooooh yeah.. lawl.. like that movie... hahah whatever, kid"...

if you wanted people to not believe something....

why WOULDN'T you follow that course of action?

it works.


oh i forgot TPTB are too negligent, irresponsible and incapable....


yeaah...




if you want to reduce conscious focus on something as a reality...
make it "supposedly real"..
wait for the suspense..

then collapse it as a "hoax" or "scam"

ie:

bigfoot hoax.

CNN hologram hoax

.. the alien in the window video..
which has been confused by the public to be a hoax.. people hear tiny details and remember the last word.
"someone hoaxed it" (which someone did in a copy) but ATS people know that.. not the public CNN drones.


bait and switch.

simple mass psychology.


and the reality remains hidden....
AS ABSURD AS IT MAY SOUND TO THE AVERAGE JOE.
it remains scoffed at.

the perfect camouflage.

why?




because it works.





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posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by NobodiesClone63
... I know for a fact what's happened to me and that's all I need to know. Know for yourself. ... I'm not a big fan of the "society" and what they think because most people aren't of the same mindset as I am.

....Don't try to convince doubters because you'll begin to doubt yourself. It's also tricky when surrounding yourself with people of the same mindset because they will encourage you more and are quicker to say "Yep that happened"

I'm a believer man ....


I'm not convinced that you're entirely convinced that you're a "believer". You admit your beliefs aren't as strong as you say when proclaiming you're a believer, because your prone to doubting yourself, and also prone to agreeing with others of your shared mindset. The latter is apt to be the most accurate assessment.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 02:58 AM
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You know honestly this is ridiculous. Let me help those of you who have had contact or others who haven't and want to be able to discern better. The real Guardian Races do not usually contact folks and tell them to spread the word. In fact most of them will not even contact you unless you go looking for them and asking. Even then they will usually not because people are so susceptible or compromised at this point energetically that other beings will try to break the line of communication and falsley claim to be them. There are so many beings just waiting for good intentioned folks with poor discernment abilities (energetic and basic logic) to open themselves up without really knowing what they are doing.

98% of these channels are part of the planned New Age movement which was a manipulative agenda planned a long time ago. These channels are completely compromised energetically/psychically and are used to spread lies and lead other folks to opening themselves up without discernment so they can become compromised as well. These channels are also used to run reversed fire letter genetic sequences/coding/frequencies into the grids and templar to cause a reversal in the planet to be hijacked later on. These manipulative races involved here have complete reversed DNA sequences in their bodies and can only live on a planet that is running a reverse field spin.

The off world manipulative beings who have been competing here for a long time are seeking bodies they can tap in order to access the grids of the planet. They can only access them if they have the right codes in their DNA, but they do not because they simply do not have our bodies that are keyed to the planetary templar. WE seeded ourselves here from the higher levels to serve as Planetary Templar Guardians!

True Guardian races will not contact you with some generic names. There are all sorts of appropriate protocol especially when dealing and interacting in such a hot bed area and very comprimised part of the galaxy.

Think about this even logically using an example: Would it be considered a legitimate message anywhere if I said, "Oh yea I was talking to the Russians and they said to watch our for an event on the east coast this Sunday." Or how about "Yea the Africans want peace and an end to suffering. The AFricans have learned to work with Nature and we should too. Perhaps if the West believes in positive change enough then the AFricans can come and visit and help us." Ok so I think you get it...I'm being ridiculously generic and open ended because the term Africans and Russians is actually made up of many people and many structures and organizations within that with many different agendas. My analogies still do not even match the generality of the "Pleaidian" sources. Because guess what the Pleiadies is a star system! So in comparison the reference to russians or germans or japanese or whatever on Earth, is actually very specific when comparing it to the star system, the Pleiadies.

So listen up when you have a group of beings or being or whatever they "claim" to be and they are being ridiculously vague and general you better start asking some serious questions or else you're being totally irresponsible. And what I mean is you better watch out because there are plenty of beings, races, collectives who are body hungry in order to achieve some of their agendas for taking control of this place. And remember taking true control is something that involves the Planetary Templar systems.

By the way I should mention that I have helped several people out who have been contacted by various groups and fed the same mumbo jumbo. And when proper discernment is used and protection in many cases these beings have turned ugly shown their true colors and eventually left to try to find other more undiscerning and blindly trusting humans.

Here is a place to start for basic proper protection:

www.azuritepress.com...

Stay sharp people and ask more questi



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 04:02 AM
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You must have missunderstood what I was saying. Let me clarify, I believe that one must learn for themselves what the truth is rather than entering a group and trying to figure out that truth because your going to find yourself in alot of arguments on what the "truth" is. On top of that, when entering a group you are shedding your own personal agenda and beliefs and you often find yourself throwing away your individuality and the truths you've learned for yourself. Not all people are right and what is true for one person isn't exactly true for another. 2 people can be right and still disagree on that very same subject simply because one person has info that the other doesn't or because they have false data.

Doubt is a common trait amongst all people imo. I am a believer.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by pieman
the difficulty i have with these messages is that they ask for complete change on our part before we can receive any help, but once we have changed i fail to see why we would require help.


Heh. Every point I've read of yours so far in this thread I've made myself elsewhere on these forums.

This kind of alien message is practically redundant in every way. They offer us change and answers only when we've changed and worked the answers out for ourselves. They tell us things that the bulk of the world already know as if it's such a profound insight and startling revelation.

I think that alien communication actually says more about the person receiving the communication than the alleged communicator.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 05:50 AM
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Originally posted by FiatLux
What I find that is strange about outside entities wanting us to ask them for help is this. When one places their life into the hands of an outside influance, this person gives up their free will. And for these people to wish these outside entities to take away all the peoples problems and troubles, this in fact interferes with everyones free will. Why do these entities want us to give up our free will to them? All of us were given free will in the beginning, why now do people think we should just give it away or give it up? I find that as being very disturbing myself.

Oh, and by the way, Universal Laws are not just for those entities, they cover all beings and life that exists. One of those Laws is free will.

[edit on 9-11-2008 by FiatLux]


I think thats the point, if they just appear, then they are taking our free will away, by showing us a universal truth that we haven't discovered yet, extraterrestrial life. They are trying to get us, collectively, to ask for their help, as this acknowledges, at least a majority belief in the existence of ET life and doesn't detract from our own path of discovery.

Plus, if we actually ask for their help, that is our free will, therefore they will not be breaking their own laws, IMO, it makes sense to not just show up, it's the difference of strolling into someones house uninvited, or ringing them before you go round.

EMM

[edit on 9-11-2008 by ElectroMagnetic Multivers]



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 05:56 AM
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prove it man.

XxxX



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Merriman Weir

Originally posted by pieman
the difficulty i have with these messages is that they ask for complete change on our part before we can receive any help, but once we have changed i fail to see why we would require help.


Heh. Every point I've read of yours so far in this thread I've made myself elsewhere on these forums.

This kind of alien message is practically redundant in every way. They offer us change and answers only when we've changed and worked the answers out for ourselves. They tell us things that the bulk of the world already know as if it's such a profound insight and startling revelation.

I think that alien communication actually says more about the person receiving the communication than the alleged communicator.


They offer change and help, after we have instigated the change ourselves, otherwise, they could come down and the majority of people would tell them to pi$$ off, you must understand that right?

Imagine them coming down, without our 'request' first, they'd land and explain about whats happened, how we shouldn't be eating meat, or arguing, belittling or killing each other, we should shy away from our material obsessions, and instead, try and better ourselves mentally and spiritually, we should spend our time helping each other, rather than ourselves, we should help our planet, the plants and animals that share our home,WE SHOULD STOP WATCHING TV?!?! Honestly, what do you think the average person would say? IMO, it would be a 'screw this, I'm going to eat a steak dinner and watch big brother' moment.

People don't like being shown their errors and for someone to come along and to completely change our way of living, must be handled very carefully, otherwise it could tip the situation over the edge. IMO of course.

EMM



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 07:43 AM
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They have medication for your type of thinking or whatever your seeing or hearing. In other words" stay off that DOPE!!!"



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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Man, another indicative moment of "truth" involving the Pleiadians


One cannot help being sceptic, but if I were apart of an alien race - presenting themselves as the tutelage of humanity - I'd contact the United Nations. Not members of an internet forum - sorry guys. Is it a coincidence that these plaintive and dire portents are always sent to members of ATS?

How exhilarating that ATS is once again the du jour and en vogue of the galactic federation!



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers


They offer change and help, after we have instigated the change ourselves, otherwise, they could come down and the majority of people would tell them to pi$$ off, you must understand that right?


No, I don't know that at all and neither do you.

See, there's a bit of a fallacy in a lot of these threads. The sceptics and the naysayers aren't actually rebuffing or questioning aliens as such, more the alleged messengers. One of the big problems, if not the biggest problem, with this kind of discourse is that all people want is proof of the actual existence of the aliens making the message. I think, if anything, any actual message would be taken very, very seriously indeed if the existence of aliens was 'proven' in some way.


Imagine them coming down, without our 'request' first, they'd land and explain about whats happened, how we shouldn't be eating meat, or arguing, belittling or killing each other, we should shy away from our material obsessions, and instead, try and better ourselves mentally and spiritually, we should spend our time helping each other, rather than ourselves, we should help our planet, the plants and animals that share our home,WE SHOULD STOP WATCHING TV?!?! Honestly, what do you think the average person would say? IMO, it would be a 'screw this, I'm going to eat a steak dinner and watch big brother' moment.


This is one of the issues that I have with a lot of this, and why I think it says more about the person making the claims of alien contact. I've been a vegetarian for about 25 years, my politics lean towards socialism and I'm not driven by materialism, I've been 'green' and recycling since the early 1990s, I donate towards nature charities and I've take part in sponsorship schemes as well as having adopted rescued animals in the past. What's more, I actually believe in aliens and am open to both a 'nuts and bolts' scenario as well as 'ultraterrestrials'. Yet, I see all these claims about how evil, selfish and unenlightened 'we' all are and how 'we' need to change.

Some variations of the alien spiritual message actually make a point of saying, we know it's the elite few, the leaders that control the planet that are doing the 'bad' things. So what gives? Why not appear to them as individuals rather than as government/corporate representatives and alter their views rather the people without influence and are practically impotent in terms of what they can do to change anything? Why do they punish the rest of the planet because of a minority who dictate how the rest of us live by not interacting with us now? Because that's what these allegedly benevolent aliens are doing: they can see the world is in a mess regarding economies, war, the environment &c but still won't intervene because of the controlling actions of a few? What the # is that about?



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 08:45 AM
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posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 08:58 AM
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Not what my guidance says. Fear and more of it, sounds like the Bush administration. Whatever happens, one thing is for sure only love (allowing) will work. Here's to maximum effectiveness.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
Man, another indicative moment of "truth" involving the Pleiadians


One cannot help being sceptic, but if I were apart of an alien race - presenting themselves as the tutelage of humanity - I'd contact the United Nations. Not members of an internet forum - sorry guys. Is it a coincidence that these plaintive and dire portents are always sent to members of ATS?

How exhilarating that ATS is once again the du jour and en vogue of the galactic federation!


Nothing wrong with being sceptical and IMO, they may have already contacted the UN, aswell as many other nations, they just choose not to mention it, but they are my own beliefs and by no stretch of the word 'fact'.

Say for a moment, they hadn't contacted any governments, my question, as yours is, would be why?

Personal opinion here but aliens contacting one government, on a world with many different 'factions' would be very dubious to say the least, it could cause all out planetary war, even if it was only a 'first contact', other nations, especially on our planet, would straight away jump to conclusions of collaboration, to gain world dominance.

EMM



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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Hello everyone, I have read a lot of people talking about Blossom Goodchild so I did some research and read the story that she predicted the galactic federation of light something would come in spaceships and disappointed everyone. I want to make this clear to everyone, I am a mother of 3 children, 37yrs old and I have nothing to do with Blossom Goodchild as some people have suggested, I am not a channeller and I have nothing to do with the galactic federation of light. I am not even sure what that represents, I am just a normal person with a life that was contacted by the Pleiadians, they told me they were from the Pleiades and we know them as the Pleiadians. My life of course changed after these experiences dramatically and life has not been easy for me personally learning about the reality and situation we are living in. I want people to know that I came here just to share to the best of my knowledge and ability some of the notes I took while in contact with them. I chose this website and other websites related to aliens and ufo’s because I felt it would be a good place to present the information. I am glad that some of you have listened and I am sorry to those who have chosen not to and completely understand, it was hard enough for me to listen to the message being the contactee as I my family is very religious. I was not selected or employed to share the notes I took with the world only allowed to share some of them if I wanted to, I came here on my own free will to share them. Thanks for listening.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 09:37 AM
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Well, to be fair to those who are skeptics, I'd like to think they are intelligent enough that when they DO hear something that rings of truth, those that are not just the categorical "aliens don't exist!" crowd, will give that account a fair listening to. The short stories and fables that are thrown together are full of holes, no proof is provided, they can't explain many facets of the story except with more unverifiable nonsense, and they are pretty dang obvious.

If someone had a true story, even if some parts of it are a bit amazing, I think it would ring of truth. And I think there would some facts that no one has ever thought of before. That is, some bit of science, something about the aliens, the way they communicate, something about a ship, there would be something that is new but makes sense to us that it would work. Not the same old "channeling," or the imo, ludicrous "vibrations" theories that people manage to come up with, because they lack the imagination to come up with anything else. I think when something true comes along, it will be something we've not heard before, and we'll say "wow.. that makes sense.."

I've not seen that yet. I see really poor storytelling, with embellishments to make their stories seem more intense. In this case, it's weapons on bases on our moon! Which stops other aliens from helping us. Who however, apparently can magically help us after all, if we just vibrated correctly.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 09:44 AM
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As crazy as this sounds to some, after a lengthy spiritual awakening, it is far easier to have an open mind in the sense of universal law. By no means do I understand it all, but now I am able to absorb statements such as, 'moving into next density' and 'they come from a different dimension', etc. What is happening to Earth has been known by the idigenous peoples, such as the Hopi's and Mayans. We as humans are evolving to the next level, into the 4th and 5th dimension. Most of us have no clue what to expect from this shift and there are so many different opinions, you can take your pick. But back to my point, I think that the general populace that is caught up in day to day politics and struggling to support their families, have not been exposed to the idea that the human race itself IS evolving. That was not taught in school and the religions have us so messed up, that the truth is just too hard to digest.



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 09:46 AM
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I have a question for you. How do you get these messages? I mean, do they come to you in person and tell you these things? Or is it through your mind that these messages come? You say your not a channeler, then how is it you get these messages? Also, do you write them down as you get them?



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