Originally posted by fromtheheart66 No I am not ok with it. Both of my kids have gotten into trouble by not saying the Pledge of
Alligance. I dont think that they should be made to say this. both kids are very anti war and have an"inheriated" distrust of goverment. Could be
because they watched the IRS take every cent we had and I had to borrow money from family just to eat.The part of the allegiance "One nation under
God" contributes to their unwillingness to say it too. They are free to worship who they want. At the age of 42 I still dont know if there is a God.
Why would they when they are still in school.I can get the need to learn about the politcal process but I would be really pissed if a teacher starting
spouting their choices.
Wow, I feel like this is me talking lol. I am the same way with the pledge of allegiance.
The list I gave the school for my reasons of not wanting my kids to participate are as follows:
1. The pledge of allegiance was created by a socialist baptist preacher at the end of the 19th century who wanted to see this country given over
completely to the socialist system.
2. The pledge of allegiance was implemented into the school systems for just the above reason... ironically at the same time that hitler was in power
or right after (can't remember off hand the exact year).
3. A pledge said over and over defeats the whole purpose of taking a pledge and in the end, makes pledges a mundane thing when young children are made
to do it daily.
4. How is pledging allegiance to an object even considered a show of loyalty to the country?
5. What does a country consist of anyway to make one want to be loyal? To me, my family and friends are my country and they have my loyalty 100% of
the time w/out question..... the president, the country as a whole, and certainly a piece of material do not.
I just feel that the pledge of allegiance and the idea behind it and what is taught is nationalism and I don't think it is a safe route to teach my
children to be objective in their loyalty. As has been seen, a president will not always have the individuals best interest at heart and I'll be
damned if I teach my kids that going overseas to die for a rich man's personal agenda is showing loyalty to one's country.
I am hardcore on this issue as the schools have learned. At their old school, even though I was somewhat accomidated in that I could bring them after
the pledge was said, it was counted against them as tardies (which was fine with me... I care more about their values than conforming to "fit in"
with society) and I was having to go and back forth with the school board in order for it to not be counted against them. Not going through that with
the new school, where they simply said they understood and would take the boys out of the room during the pledge.
But, speaking of the former school, I find it utterly ridiculous and scary that I have to appeal to a "board" concerning my children and the values
that we hold to.
when I was transitioning my children into the new school, I kept boys home for 3 days. I did this because I love my sons and felt that between school
and their dad taking them every other weekend, I was missing out on so much of their formative years. I want to be there for everything and watch and
help them to develop into the decent young men they are learning to be. So, I kept them home 3 days to spend some good quality time with the children
that I helped bring into this world.
On the 3rd day (a friday), an officer came to my door. when I opened the door, he told me that the school (the one I pulled them out of) called him
because they called the new school only to find out I hadn't sent them yet.... which I had informed the new school that i was keeping them and
starting them out on a Monday and they were fine with this and in fact encouraged it.
So, they called the cop to come and "check" to make sure the boys were okay.
Can you imagine if a parent called the cops on a school to
"check" and make sure the children were okay? Most likely the phone would hang up in your ear.
I told the officer as politely as I could that I appreciated the fact he was doing his job but that it is a SAD SAD state of affairs when they agree
to come check on a child simply because the parent wanted to spend time with them. Fortunately for the officer lol, he agreed and actually commended
me for doing such. I called the school and told them that it was this blatant disrespect for me as the parent that led me to the conclusion that their
school, which I once appreciated and felt at ease with, was no longer right for my children.
*I* am the parent, NOT the school... however, it seems to be becoming a relative view in this day and age and that the school's relative view is THEY
are the ones responsible for the child's well being and that we, the parents are not capable of having complete say so in their lives.
*sighs* I see clearly that we are losing the minds of our children and although it hasn't become apparent, I wonder how apparent it will be when they
are our age and making the decisions. Will we (speaking generally here) realize too late that maybe we were deceived in giving away the most important
years of their lives.. the years that will shape the view of the world?